Porteroso said:

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Totally agree, but it doesn't negate the America First point. If it was Mexico, yes it would be our responsibility. But the fact is, their missiles can strike Europe, not America, so this should have been handled by the Europeans.

Of course, it largely was, until Trump pulled us out of the treaty. I'm not saying I trusted them, just that there were signs that they were abiding by the terms. That's about the best you can get with maniacal terrorists.

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Realitybites said:

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From the WSJ: " The U.S. and Israel launched the war with the hope that killing top Iranian officialsstarting with Mojtaba's father, Ali Khameneiwould create the conditions for regime change or at least the emergence of leaders more willing to bend to America and Israel's interests. In an address to the nation one month into the war, President Trump called the new leadership "more reasonable."

Instead, the void is being filled by radical new leaders who have shown little interest in political compromise at home or abroad.

"The war changed the regimeand not in a good way," said Danny Citrinowicz, who formerly headed the Iran desk for Israeli military intelligence. "We created a reality that is worse than what Iranians were facing before the war."

That is to say that the war has dramatically increased the odds of nuclear proliferation both in Iran, and in other nations that are watching what is going on.

Sam is correct. If we didn't want Iran to have nukes, not going to war would have been the right course.

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FLBear5630 said:

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I want proof there are nukes. I want to see International Inspectors and an objective report on why we did this.

Just like W had to go through. Trump doesn't get a pass, although many on here seem to want that for numerous items.

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https://thebulletin.org/2026/03/analysis-iran-likely-transferred-highly-enriched-uranium-to-isfahan-before-the-june-strikes/

The context. In June 2022, Iran turned off IAEA surveillance cameras at key nuclear sites in Iran, including monitoring devices at Natanz and Fordow. The shutdown was a direct retaliation for a resolution passed by the IAEA board of governors that criticized Iran for not explaining the presence of uranium traces at three sites it had not declared to be part of its nuclear program. Then, in February 2023, Bloomberg reported that IAEA monitors at Fordow had detected traces of uranium enriched to 84 percent of uranium 235, a fissile isotope that can be used in nuclear weapons, just 6 percent shy of weapon-grade level.
The IAEA never confirmed the report, saying that it was talking with Iran about recent findings there. Iran denied it, and cameras were gradually restored to operation at Iranian nuclear facilities in May 2023.
The last confirmed physical visit by IAEA Director General Rafael Grossi to the Natanz Fuel Enrichment Plant (FEP) and Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP) occurred on November 15, 2024. Since then, the IAEA has relied on its own estimates, based on Iran's declarations, intelligence from member states, and high-resolution commercial satellite imagery.
In its latest comprehensive assessment from May 2025, the IAEA said it had lost "continuity of knowledge" about Iran's uranium stockpile when it turned off on-site cameras and that this knowledge gap was irreversible. In that same report, the IAEA estimated that, as of mid-May 2025, Iran had 408.6 kilograms of uranium hexafluoride (UF6), enriched up to 60 percent uranium 235 (called highly enriched uranium or HEU), 274.5 kilograms enriched up to 20 percent (called low-enriched uranium or LEU), 5,508.8 kilograms enriched up to 5 percent, and 2,221.4 kilograms up to 2 percent.
Then, in a confidential letter of June 12, the IAEA informed member states that Iran had significantly ramped up production of enriched uranium, estimating that Iran's total stockpile now included 440.9 kilograms of up to 60-percent HEU, 184.1 kilograms up to 20 percent, 6,024.4 kilograms up to 5 percent, and 2,391.1 kilograms up to 2 percent. On the same day, the IAEA's board declared Iran in breach of its non-proliferation obligations. Not only had Iran concealed information about activities at its nuclear facilities, the agency reported; Iran had also reportedly obtained highly confidential documents from the agency and member states for several years, allowing it to know the agency's assessment of Iran's nuclear program equipment.

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U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff said the Iranians acknowledged having a stockpile of approximately 460 kilograms of uranium, enriched to 60% purity.
By Hezy Laing
During recent nuclear talks with the U.S., Iranian negotiators reportedly boasted of possessing enough enriched Uranium for making 11 nuclear bombs.
U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, shared in interviews on March 3, 2026, that the Iranians acknowledged having a stockpile of approximately 460 kilograms of uranium, enriched to 60% purity.
This claim aligns closely with prior assessments from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which in a confidential report dated February 27, 2026, estimated Iran's pre-strike inventory at around 440.9 kilograms of uranium enriched up to 60%.
Uranium enrichment measures the concentration of the fissile isotope uranium-235 (U-235).
Natural uranium contains about 0.7% U-235, while low-enriched uranium for civilian reactors typically reaches 3-5%.
Higher levels include 20% for research reactors and medical isotopes.
Weapons-grade uranium requires about 90% U-235 purity.
Iran's 60% enriched material sits just short of this threshold, representing a significant technical step forwardexperts note that enriching from 60% to 90% is far quicker and requires fewer centrifuge stages than earlier steps from natural to 60%.
The IAEA's yardstick suggests roughly 42-50 kilograms of 60% enriched uranium (in uranium mass) could suffice for one bomb's worth of weapons-grade material after further enrichment, depending on design efficiency.
Thus, 440-460 kilograms could theoretically support 9-11 devices if Iran pursued weaponization, though no evidence shows active weapon assembly.
The current whereabouts of this stockpile remain uncertain amid ongoing U.S.-Israeli strikes starting February 28, 2026, targeting nuclear infrastructure.

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Porteroso said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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From the WSJ: " The U.S. and Israel launched the war with the hope that killing top Iranian officialsstarting with Mojtaba's father, Ali Khameneiwould create the conditions for regime change or at least the emergence of leaders more willing to bend to America and Israel's interests. In an address to the nation one month into the war, President Trump called the new leadership "more reasonable."

Instead, the void is being filled by radical new leaders who have shown little interest in political compromise at home or abroad.

"The war changed the regimeand not in a good way," said Danny Citrinowicz, who formerly headed the Iran desk for Israeli military intelligence. "We created a reality that is worse than what Iranians were facing before the war."

That is to say that the war has dramatically increased the odds of nuclear proliferation both in Iran, and in other nations that are watching what is going on.

Sam is correct. If we didn't want Iran to have nukes, not going to war would have been the right course.

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This conclusion may be true. Though doing nothing seems like a really short term play, but it'd worked so far. As far as the public knows.
It may also be that they want nuke capabilities and were doing what it takes to get there.

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We've been told for decades that 1) they were doing everything they could to get there and 2) they were weeks or months away. Both of these things can't be true. Meanwhile UN inspectors and US intelligence have found no evidence of an active WMD program. It's almost like the whole thing is a pretext for war on Iraq...oops, I mean Iran.

The quality of the propaganda is almost insulting. It's hard to be fooled by it unless you just want to be.

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Them having 60% enriched uranium is unacceptable though, and they trumpet that. Actually they might not have even achieved 60%, but they say they have. It's enough to kill millions in a few dirty bombs.

I'm a little surprised that our resident Trump lovers are so mad Iran hates America, chants "Death to America...." Aren't those just some mean tweets? Basically meaningless?

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FLBear5630 said:

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I am not hoping Iran wins. It is a quagmire we should not have gotten involved in. Twi different things.
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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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From the WSJ: " The U.S. and Israel launched the war with the hope that killing top Iranian officialsstarting with Mojtaba's father, Ali Khameneiwould create the conditions for regime change or at least the emergence of leaders more willing to bend to America and Israel's interests. In an address to the nation one month into the war, President Trump called the new leadership "more reasonable."

Instead, the void is being filled by radical new leaders who have shown little interest in political compromise at home or abroad.

"The war changed the regimeand not in a good way," said Danny Citrinowicz, who formerly headed the Iran desk for Israeli military intelligence. "We created a reality that is worse than what Iranians were facing before the war."

That is to say that the war has dramatically increased the odds of nuclear proliferation both in Iran, and in other nations that are watching what is going on.

Sam is correct. If we didn't want Iran to have nukes, not going to war would have been the right course.

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This conclusion may be true. Though doing nothing seems like a really short term play, but it'd worked so far. As far as the public knows.
It may also be that they want nuke capabilities and were doing what it takes to get there.

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We've been told for decades that 1) they were doing everything they could to get there and 2) they were weeks or months away. Both of these things can't be true. Meanwhile UN inspectors and US intelligence have found no evidence of an active WMD program. It's almost like the whole thing is a pretext for war on Iraq...oops, I mean Iran.

The quality of the propaganda is almost insulting. It's hard to be fooled by it unless you just want to be.

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FLBear5630 said:

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Hope has nothing to do with it, it is not a baseball game.

Trump got us in a mess and he will not even be honest, everyday his comments are all over and not true. He said he wouldn't do this.

There is no rooting in war.

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BluesBear said:

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Bush didn't find WMD in Iraq - - Neither did Trump in Iran. This is about having a global banking cartel in place for mass control. They are already doing it with this "shortage" of fuel - which just isn't true.

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FLBear5630 said:

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I want proof there are nukes. I want to see International Inspectors and an objective report on why we did this.

Just like W had to go through. Trump doesn't get a pass, although many on here seem to want that for numerous items.

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Hope has nothing to do with it, it is not a baseball game.

Trump got us in a mess and he will not even be honest, everyday his comments are all over and not true. He said he wouldn't do this.

There is no rooting in war.

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schooled by the actual information regarding the Iran's enrichment history, now this is all you got? Truly sad.

It's not even a mess yet. Obama b-mbed people for 8 years, so this conflict doesn't even rate quite yet. It has the potential to go south for sure, but right now, it's all just a bunch of noise, after weeks of success dismantling their military capabilities.

That's the prob, you can't see past Trump's stupid tweets. Iran is a bad actor, sitting idly by while they get nukes is not a good plan, it's a gamble that we don't have to accept their odds, we can try to get the odds in our favor.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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From the WSJ: " The U.S. and Israel launched the war with the hope that killing top Iranian officialsstarting with Mojtaba's father, Ali Khameneiwould create the conditions for regime change or at least the emergence of leaders more willing to bend to America and Israel's interests. In an address to the nation one month into the war, President Trump called the new leadership "more reasonable."

Instead, the void is being filled by radical new leaders who have shown little interest in political compromise at home or abroad.

"The war changed the regimeand not in a good way," said Danny Citrinowicz, who formerly headed the Iran desk for Israeli military intelligence. "We created a reality that is worse than what Iranians were facing before the war."

That is to say that the war has dramatically increased the odds of nuclear proliferation both in Iran, and in other nations that are watching what is going on.

Sam is correct. If we didn't want Iran to have nukes, not going to war would have been the right course.

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This conclusion may be true. Though doing nothing seems like a really short term play, but it'd worked so far. As far as the public knows.
It may also be that they want nuke capabilities and were doing what it takes to get there.

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We've been told for decades that 1) they were doing everything they could to get there and 2) they were weeks or months away. Both of these things can't be true. Meanwhile UN inspectors and US intelligence have found no evidence of an active WMD program. It's almost like the whole thing is a pretext for war on Iraq...oops, I mean Iran.

The quality of the propaganda is almost insulting. It's hard to be fooled by it unless you just want to be.

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You have been given links UN reports that do not corroborate your claims, yet you persist in postings that make it seem that Iran was fully cooperating with the UN inspectors. They regularly reported they did not have full access to areas they were to inspect.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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From the WSJ: " The U.S. and Israel launched the war with the hope that killing top Iranian officialsstarting with Mojtaba's father, Ali Khameneiwould create the conditions for regime change or at least the emergence of leaders more willing to bend to America and Israel's interests. In an address to the nation one month into the war, President Trump called the new leadership "more reasonable."

Instead, the void is being filled by radical new leaders who have shown little interest in political compromise at home or abroad.

"The war changed the regimeand not in a good way," said Danny Citrinowicz, who formerly headed the Iran desk for Israeli military intelligence. "We created a reality that is worse than what Iranians were facing before the war."

That is to say that the war has dramatically increased the odds of nuclear proliferation both in Iran, and in other nations that are watching what is going on.

Sam is correct. If we didn't want Iran to have nukes, not going to war would have been the right course.

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This conclusion may be true. Though doing nothing seems like a really short term play, but it'd worked so far. As far as the public knows.
It may also be that they want nuke capabilities and were doing what it takes to get there.

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We've been told for decades that 1) they were doing everything they could to get there and 2) they were weeks or months away. Both of these things can't be true. Meanwhile UN inspectors and US intelligence have found no evidence of an active WMD program. It's almost like the whole thing is a pretext for war on Iraq...oops, I mean Iran.

The quality of the propaganda is almost insulting. It's hard to be fooled by it unless you just want to be.

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You have been given links UN reports that do not corroborate your claims, yet you persist in postings that make it seem that Iran was fully cooperating with the UN inspectors. They regularly reported they did not have full access to areas they were to inspect.

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They didn't always have full access to what they demanded, but Iran more than fulfilled its obligations under the agreement.

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That statement is contradictory. And you know it.

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Lol Florida and Sam licking the Iranians sacks.

Despite what the inspectors say, Florida and Sam back the Iranian dictator. You guys got it all figured out, Iran is just the poor misunderstood good guys. Killers but great trustworthy honest guys.

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ron.reagan said:

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BluesBear said:

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Bush didn't find WMD in Iraq - - Neither did Trump in Iran. This is about having a global banking cartel in place for mass control. They are already doing it with this "shortage" of fuel - which just isn't true.

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They were bankrupting their country to enrich uranium to 60% for peaceful purposes.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Realitybites said:

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From the WSJ: " The U.S. and Israel launched the war with the hope that killing top Iranian officialsstarting with Mojtaba's father, Ali Khameneiwould create the conditions for regime change or at least the emergence of leaders more willing to bend to America and Israel's interests. In an address to the nation one month into the war, President Trump called the new leadership "more reasonable."

Instead, the void is being filled by radical new leaders who have shown little interest in political compromise at home or abroad.

"The war changed the regimeand not in a good way," said Danny Citrinowicz, who formerly headed the Iran desk for Israeli military intelligence. "We created a reality that is worse than what Iranians were facing before the war."

That is to say that the war has dramatically increased the odds of nuclear proliferation both in Iran, and in other nations that are watching what is going on.

Sam is correct. If we didn't want Iran to have nukes, not going to war would have been the right course.

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This conclusion may be true. Though doing nothing seems like a really short term play, but it'd worked so far. As far as the public knows.
It may also be that they want nuke capabilities and were doing what it takes to get there.

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We've been told for decades that 1) they were doing everything they could to get there and 2) they were weeks or months away. Both of these things can't be true. Meanwhile UN inspectors and US intelligence have found no evidence of an active WMD program. It's almost like the whole thing is a pretext for war on Iraq...oops, I mean Iran.

The quality of the propaganda is almost insulting. It's hard to be fooled by it unless you just want to be.

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You have been given links UN reports that do not corroborate your claims, yet you persist in postings that make it seem that Iran was fully cooperating with the UN inspectors. They regularly reported they did not have full access to areas they were to inspect.

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They didn't always have full access to what they demanded, but Iran more than fulfilled its obligations under the agreement.

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That statement is contradictory. And you know it.

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Then you don't understand the agreement. Iran agreed to specific safeguards, not carte blanche for the US to demand anything any time.

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Then you don't understand that the UN investigators did not believe they were seeing all they were entitled to see. But you already knew that.

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Doc Holliday said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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I want proof there are nukes. I want to see International Inspectors and an objective report on why we did this.

Just like W had to go through. Trump doesn't get a pass, although many on here seem to want that for numerous items.

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W never coughed up proof actually.

Its so obvious they want another forever war.

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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I want proof there are nukes. I want to see International Inspectors and an objective report on why we did this.

Just like W had to go through. Trump doesn't get a pass, although many on here seem to want that for numerous items.

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W never coughed up proof actually.

Its so obvious they want another forever war.

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Please. There is no proof that Trump or anyone in his admin wants a "forever war" with Iran. Hell, he's been looking for every way to end it. So let's stop repeating that tired trope.

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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I want proof there are nukes. I want to see International Inspectors and an objective report on why we did this.

Just like W had to go through. Trump doesn't get a pass, although many on here seem to want that for numerous items.

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W never coughed up proof actually.

Its so obvious they want another forever war.

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Please. There is no proof that Trump or anyone in his admin wants a "forever war" with Iran. Hell, he's been looking for every way to end it. So let's stop repeating that tired trope.

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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I want proof there are nukes. I want to see International Inspectors and an objective report on why we did this.

Just like W had to go through. Trump doesn't get a pass, although many on here seem to want that for numerous items.

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W never coughed up proof actually.

Its so obvious they want another forever war.

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Please. There is no proof that Trump or anyone in his admin wants a "forever war" with Iran. Hell, he's been looking for every way to end it. So let's stop repeating that tired trope.

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Curious, who ever did want a forever war????

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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I want proof there are nukes. I want to see International Inspectors and an objective report on why we did this.

Just like W had to go through. Trump doesn't get a pass, although many on here seem to want that for numerous items.

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W never coughed up proof actually.

Its so obvious they want another forever war.

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Please. There is no proof that Trump or anyone in his admin wants a "forever war" with Iran. Hell, he's been looking for every way to end it. So let's stop repeating that tired trope.

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Curious, who ever did want a forever war???? No one does, you get in and can't get out without leaving people and allies screwed. That is how we end up somewhere for 20 years. No one goes in say, we are here for the next 20 years...

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FLBear5630 said:

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Mothra said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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I want proof there are nukes. I want to see International Inspectors and an objective report on why we did this.

Just like W had to go through. Trump doesn't get a pass, although many on here seem to want that for numerous items.

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W never coughed up proof actually.

Its so obvious they want another forever war.

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Please. There is no proof that Trump or anyone in his admin wants a "forever war" with Iran. Hell, he's been looking for every way to end it. So let's stop repeating that tired trope.

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Curious, who ever did want a forever war???? No one does, you get in and can't get out without leaving people and allies screwed. That is how we end up somewhere for 20 years. No one goes in say, we are here for the next 20 years...

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