Trump Evacuated As Shots Fired at White House Correspondents' Dinner, Shooter Dead

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FLBear5630
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ShooterTX said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Jack Bauer said:

boognish_bear said:



That almost feels like poetic justice for our country. Replace 82 year old Joe Biden with 92 year old.


Geezer occupied government

It feels like the boomers will just live forever and continue to hog all levers of institutional power forever

(Yes I know the oldest boomers are only now hitting 80…that makes it worse)

You think the Boomers are behind this crap? Look at what he is doing, it is making life for Boomers reaching retirement age impossible. No one can stop working now, if just for Health Care. No, the Boomers are getting screwed after a lifetime of working for the US. I think you are looking at the wrong metric, this is an income thing not an age thing.


"The Boomers are getting screwed" - there is a phase that has never been accurate for the past 80 years. For My entire life (I'm GenX) everything had been done for the Boomers... EVERYTHING!

The Boomers have never been screwed. If they are getting *screwed* now... it might be poetic justice.

The truth is that maybe the systemic protections & benefits that were created specifically for the Boomers are going away, and for the first time they are facing reality like the rest of us... maybe.

I really think you are giving a label too much credit. "Boomers" what organization is that? This generational age group got together and planned to have the whole system set up to take care of them and the expense of their children and grandchildren. Diabolical...

Maybe if you guys had more kids? Or maybe conditions just changed? Anyway you cut it, any changes will have to phased in. What you guys have may be different. If you don't want MEDICARE, use something else. But, everyone will keep on paying in.
whiterock
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FLBear5630 said:

ShooterTX said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Jack Bauer said:

boognish_bear said:



That almost feels like poetic justice for our country. Replace 82 year old Joe Biden with 92 year old.


Geezer occupied government

It feels like the boomers will just live forever and continue to hog all levers of institutional power forever

(Yes I know the oldest boomers are only now hitting 80…that makes it worse)

You think the Boomers are behind this crap? Look at what he is doing, it is making life for Boomers reaching retirement age impossible. No one can stop working now, if just for Health Care. No, the Boomers are getting screwed after a lifetime of working for the US. I think you are looking at the wrong metric, this is an income thing not an age thing.


"The Boomers are getting screwed" - there is a phase that has never been accurate for the past 80 years. For My entire life (I'm GenX) everything had been done for the Boomers... EVERYTHING!

The Boomers have never been screwed. If they are getting *screwed* now... it might be poetic justice.

The truth is that maybe the systemic protections & benefits that were created specifically for the Boomers are going away, and for the first time they are facing reality like the rest of us... maybe.

I really think you are giving a label too much credit. "Boomers" what organization is that? This generational age group got together and planned to have the whole system set up to take care of them and the expense of their children and grandchildren. Diabolical...

Maybe if you guys had more kids? Or maybe conditions just changed? Anyway you cut it, any changes will have to phased in. What you guys have may be different. If you don't want MEDICARE, use something else. But, everyone will keep on paying in.

It's not that identitarianism usually misses the point. It's that it all too often does so intentionally.
FLBear5630
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

ShooterTX said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Jack Bauer said:

boognish_bear said:



That almost feels like poetic justice for our country. Replace 82 year old Joe Biden with 92 year old.


Geezer occupied government

It feels like the boomers will just live forever and continue to hog all levers of institutional power forever

(Yes I know the oldest boomers are only now hitting 80…that makes it worse)

You think the Boomers are behind this crap? Look at what he is doing, it is making life for Boomers reaching retirement age impossible. No one can stop working now, if just for Health Care. No, the Boomers are getting screwed after a lifetime of working for the US. I think you are looking at the wrong metric, this is an income thing not an age thing.


"The Boomers are getting screwed" - there is a phase that has never been accurate for the past 80 years. For My entire life (I'm GenX) everything had been done for the Boomers... EVERYTHING!

The Boomers have never been screwed. If they are getting *screwed* now... it might be poetic justice.

The truth is that maybe the systemic protections & benefits that were created specifically for the Boomers are going away, and for the first time they are facing reality like the rest of us... maybe.

I really think you are giving a label too much credit. "Boomers" what organization is that? This generational age group got together and planned to have the whole system set up to take care of them and the expense of their children and grandchildren. Diabolical...

Maybe if you guys had more kids? Or maybe conditions just changed? Anyway you cut it, any changes will have to phased in. What you guys have may be different. If you don't want MEDICARE, use something else. But, everyone will keep on paying in.

It's not that identitarianism usually misses the point. It's that it all too often does so intentionally.

They also have a tendency to make unrealistic demands. Setting up for more *****ing. As you know, you don't turn a ship like MEDICARE in a short time period. IT is an unrealistic expectation and demand. Work on things that can actually get done.
ShooterTX
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FLBear5630 said:

ShooterTX said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Jack Bauer said:

boognish_bear said:



That almost feels like poetic justice for our country. Replace 82 year old Joe Biden with 92 year old.


Geezer occupied government

It feels like the boomers will just live forever and continue to hog all levers of institutional power forever

(Yes I know the oldest boomers are only now hitting 80…that makes it worse)

You think the Boomers are behind this crap? Look at what he is doing, it is making life for Boomers reaching retirement age impossible. No one can stop working now, if just for Health Care. No, the Boomers are getting screwed after a lifetime of working for the US. I think you are looking at the wrong metric, this is an income thing not an age thing.


"The Boomers are getting screwed" - there is a phase that has never been accurate for the past 80 years. For My entire life (I'm GenX) everything had been done for the Boomers... EVERYTHING!

The Boomers have never been screwed. If they are getting *screwed* now... it might be poetic justice.

The truth is that maybe the systemic protections & benefits that were created specifically for the Boomers are going away, and for the first time they are facing reality like the rest of us... maybe.

I really think you are giving a label too much credit. "Boomers" what organization is that? This generational age group got together and planned to have the whole system set up to take care of them and the expense of their children and grandchildren. Diabolical...

Maybe if you guys had more kids? Or maybe conditions just changed? Anyway you cut it, any changes will have to phased in. What you guys have may be different. If you don't want MEDICARE, use something else. But, everyone will keep on paying in.


Lol

I have 6 kids. You honestly think that should change my perspective? It does.... I hate socialism even more than i did before I was a father!

historian
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Jack Bauer said:

Redbrickbear said:

Jack Bauer said:

boognish_bear said:



That almost feels like poetic justice for our country. Replace 82 year old Joe Biden with 92 year old.


Geezer occupied government

It feels like the boomers will just live forever and continue to hog all levers of institutional power forever

(Yes I know the oldest boomers are only now hitting 80…that makes it worse)





Typical unreliable RINO, although she has delivered some crucial votes over the years. I attribute her position to geography: the northeast is ultra Left. She's certainly preferable to the neo-Nazi (tattoo & extreme positions on everything). Even scarier is how many modern fascists (aka "Democrats" support him.
FLBear5630
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6? Tip of the cap. That is a job!

We were talking generational labels. Boomers? It is not an organized voting block anymore than GenX. They also sre as varied as me and OldBear. We agree on very little. In my opinion, it is more an income thing. People that make the same have similar voting interests. To me, it llis a media made up thing
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Waco1947
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Redbrickbear said:



There is no way to know how many times a president is targeted. The Secret Service finds these guys before they act. I think you mean "No other president has had actual guns on site with DT."
EatMoreSalmon
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Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:



There is no way to know how many times a president is targeted. The Secret Service finds these guys before they act. I think you mean "No other president has had actual guns on site with DT."

Um, does that make it any better?
Waco1947
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:



There is no way to know how many times a president is targeted. The Secret Service finds these guys before they act. I think you mean "No other president has had actual guns on site with DT."

Um, does that make it any better?

It sounds like the disagreement isn't really about whether threats existit's about what counts as a meaningful comparison.
I am right that we can't know how many potential attacks were prevented. The United States Secret Service stops many threats before they ever become public, so the raw number of "attempts" against any president is inherently incomplete.but it doesn't necessarily mean one president was uniquely targeted more often. It may just reflect differences in reporting, definitions, or circumstances.
So when you ask, "does that make it any better?" From a risk standpoint, not really. A stopped plot and a near-executed attempt both indicate serious threat environments. The distinction matters for storytelling and headlines, but less for evaluating overall danger.
EatMoreSalmon
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Waco1947 said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Waco1947 said:

Redbrickbear said:



There is no way to know how many times a president is targeted. The Secret Service finds these guys before they act. I think you mean "No other president has had actual guns on site with DT."

Um, does that make it any better?

It sounds like the disagreement isn't really about whether threats existit's about what counts as a meaningful comparison.
I am right that we can't know how many potential attacks were prevented. The United States Secret Service stops many threats before they ever become public, so the raw number of "attempts" against any president is inherently incomplete.but it doesn't necessarily mean one president was uniquely targeted more often. It may just reflect differences in reporting, definitions, or circumstances.
So when you ask, "does that make it any better?" From a risk standpoint, not really. A stopped plot and a near-executed attempt both indicate serious threat environments. The distinction matters for storytelling and headlines, but less for evaluating overall danger.


There is an obvious difference between disgruntled gunmen getting close to a President, and a suspected threat arrested in an apartment or home. There have not been this many close calls ever.
The only period of time that I could recall there being this much violence towards a President and potential presidents is in the 1960s. Possibly in the 1860s. I'm sure there were threats thwarted against Lincoln and others then. Neither of those times are ones that need emulating as far as violence is concerned.

To deny that there is a severe uptick in leftist violence is to bury one's head in the sand. Notice I said leftist. Not all leftists are happy with the Democrat party - though for all the wrong reasons. But that is their party of choice as it is closer to their ideology.

If all the latest gunmen were righty Jew haters, then we would be talking about far rightists. But they aren't. They are leftist (though still possible Jew haters).
LIB,MR BEARS
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There's a difference in me planning to bake my wife a birthday cake vs attempting to bake her a birthday cake

One is a serious threat to the cleanliness of our kitchen while the other raises a concern about the future cleanliness of the kitchen
Mitch Blood Green
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ShooterTX said:

FLBear5630 said:

ShooterTX said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Jack Bauer said:

boognish_bear said:



That almost feels like poetic justice for our country. Replace 82 year old Joe Biden with 92 year old.


Geezer occupied government

It feels like the boomers will just live forever and continue to hog all levers of institutional power forever

(Yes I know the oldest boomers are only now hitting 80…that makes it worse)

You think the Boomers are behind this crap? Look at what he is doing, it is making life for Boomers reaching retirement age impossible. No one can stop working now, if just for Health Care. No, the Boomers are getting screwed after a lifetime of working for the US. I think you are looking at the wrong metric, this is an income thing not an age thing.


"The Boomers are getting screwed" - there is a phase that has never been accurate for the past 80 years. For My entire life (I'm GenX) everything had been done for the Boomers... EVERYTHING!

The Boomers have never been screwed. If they are getting *screwed* now... it might be poetic justice.

The truth is that maybe the systemic protections & benefits that were created specifically for the Boomers are going away, and for the first time they are facing reality like the rest of us... maybe.

I really think you are giving a label too much credit. "Boomers" what organization is that? This generational age group got together and planned to have the whole system set up to take care of them and the expense of their children and grandchildren. Diabolical...

Maybe if you guys had more kids? Or maybe conditions just changed? Anyway you cut it, any changes will have to phased in. What you guys have may be different. If you don't want MEDICARE, use something else. But, everyone will keep on paying in.


Lol

I have 6 kids and 7 baby mommas. You honestly think that should change my perspective? It does.... I hate socialism even more than i did before I was a father!




You post like a virgin. I misread you. Congratulations.

Help me understand the momma math.
 
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