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Danielsjackson114 said:

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The worst part is that we are God awful at Football

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Estimated full-time on-campus undergraduate cost of attendance (COA) for D1 schools 𝗯𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗮𝗶𝗱 pic.twitter.com/PfriAs3sIx

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That's sickening to read

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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cowboycwr said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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How does R1 benefit…

Baylor

Baylor students

Baylor grads

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For the average student, average alum, it has no impact or very little impact.

For the university it helps attract grants as there are now a lot that a university qualifies for because it is R1 that it could not qualify for without that distinction. Same for industry partners for research.

It also means it can attract higher quality professors.

It can help attract higher quality students or at least allow for higher admission standards.

Then after that the benefits more impact each individual department or school and then trickle down effects for the students.

So bottom line I would say not much impact for the average person on campus.

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So at some point the university has to ask, who are we here to serve. The words of the answer don't matter but the actions of the answer absolutely do.

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cowboycwr said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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The worst part is that we are God awful at Football

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It is pretty wild

$90k a year now (tuition, room/board, meals) for horrible football, woke virtue signaling from the Admins (no old statue is safe), no Greek life housing, and a very conservative social scene/student rules (don't be caught drinking beer) but at the very same time a strongly progressive & liberal faculty.

Baylor itself claims its graduates start out making $61,636 a year. Even if we take that as truth (and its probably cooking the books a little). That will take a long long time to repay a school that was costing you $90k or more a year.

The value proposition is just not there anymore.

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Yeah, someone mentioned wanting to send their kids to Baylor so that they can have the same experience they did. The main problem is that I don't think that experience exists now.

When I went to Baylor, it was more expensive than UT and A&M, but not *that* much more. There were lots of rural kids, urban kids, etc. There were smaller classes and a real emphasis on teaching. The Christian environment was sometimes legalistic and silly (no dancing on campus, etc), but it was also more organic as kind of a shared general conservative Protestant ethic. Heck, that's in part how Grant Teaff won over the mamas and preachers of so many football players.

At this point, when Baylor's price point is right there with SMU and TCU, generally attracting the same types of kids from the same types of places, and we use Jesus as a basis to justify DEI or whatever progressive social movement is en vogue, I have a lot of trouble seeing the value proposition.

All of my kids would've been admitted to Baylor, and 2 probably would've gone for free or mostly free based on their standardized test scores. And I make a lot of money, so should be less tuition shy. All that said, the huge sticker price for Baylor was still a turnoff for me. My kids all wanted to go different places, so it didn't really matter. But paying the piddly amount of tuition at UT or A&M instead of running the scholarship gauntlet at Baylor seems like a no-brainer, and maybe even Tech depending on what kind of major you have (e.g. petroleum engineering or ag science). With a good student, you can probably also get in-state tuition at flagship state schools in other states.

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Agreed. The experience is not the same.

not just due to the difference of time but due to the difference of the view of the administration. I talked about it on another thread but Baylor is not immune from the trend that has happened to university profs. They are all left leaning and as I discussed there, in some departments there are very few if any males and some have no white males. The make up of the faculty further pushes the left leaning agenda.

Anyone who thinks otherwise should visit the lariat website or Facebook and look at the videos they post where they ask questions that are not really political but they get political answers and lots of those catchy buzzwords used by politicians like inclusive, safe space, inviting to all, diversity, equality, equity, etc.

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Redbrickbear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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The worst part is that we are God awful at Football

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It is pretty wild

$90k a year now (tuition, room/board, meals) for horrible football, woke virtue signaling from the Admins (no old statue is safe), no Greek life housing, and a very conservative social scene/student rules (don't be caught drinking beer) but at the very same time a strongly progressive & liberal faculty.

Baylor itself claims its graduates start out making $61,636 a year. Even if we take that as truth (and its probably cooking the books a little). That will take a long long time to repay a school that was costing you $90k or more a year.

The value proposition is just not there anymore.

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Yeah, someone mentioned wanting to send their kids to Baylor so that they can have the same experience they did. The main problem is that I don't think that experience exists now.

When I went to Baylor, it was more expensive than UT and A&M, but not *that* much more. There were lots of rural kids, urban kids, etc. There were smaller classes and a real emphasis on teaching. The Christian environment was sometimes legalistic and silly (no dancing on campus, etc), but it was also more organic as kind of a shared general conservative Protestant ethic. Heck, that's in part how Grant Teaff won over the mamas and preachers of so many football players.

At this point, when Baylor's price point is right there with SMU and TCU, generally attracting the same types of kids from the same types of places, and we use Jesus as a basis to justify DEI or whatever progressive social movement is en vogue, I have a lot of trouble seeing the value proposition.

All of my kids would've been admitted to Baylor, and 2 probably would've gone for free or mostly free based on their standardized test scores. And I make a lot of money, so should be less tuition shy. All that said, the huge sticker price for Baylor was still a turnoff for me. My kids all wanted to go different places, so it didn't really matter. But paying the piddly amount of tuition at UT or A&M instead of running the scholarship gauntlet at Baylor seems like a no-brainer, and maybe even Tech depending on what kind of major you have (e.g. petroleum engineering or ag science). With a good student, you can probably also get in-state tuition at flagship state schools in other states.

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Agreed. The experience is not the same.

not just due to the difference of time but due to the difference of the view of the administration. I talked about it on another thread but Baylor is not immune from the trend that has happened to university profs. They are all left leaning and as I discussed there, in some departments there are very few if any males and some have no white males. The make up of the faculty further pushes the left leaning agenda.

Anyone who thinks otherwise should visit the lariat website or Facebook and look at the videos they post where they ask questions that are not really political but they get political answers and lots of those catchy buzzwords used by politicians like inclusive, safe space, inviting to all, diversity, equality, equity, etc.

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Someone on this site said the future of Baylor is to become something like USC (without the football success)

Formerly/historically conservative with a much more socially conservative student body for a private college. But liberal in every other way.

That seems about right given the trends

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