tin Foil said: "you're an idiot. Jesus did not call nations to enact socialist governments.

Also, conservatives are the most charitable people. Libis are scumbags who want to take other people's money rather than use their own."

My response:
Matthew 25 does not prescribe socialismand I never claimed it did. That's a straw man.
Jesus' point is that how we treat the hungry, the stranger, the sick, the naked, and the imprisoned is a matter of moral accountability before God. In Matthew 25, that standard is explicitly applied to the nations.
So the question isn't, "Did Jesus command a socialist government?" He didn't.

The question is: Does Jesus' command to care for vulnerable people have anything to say about the moral responsibilities of a nation? Matthew 25 makes it very difficult to argue that it doesn't.
And saying "conservatives are charitable and liberals are scumbags who want other people's money" isn't an argument. Christians on both sides give generously. The real debate is over how we should fulfill our obligations to our neighborsthrough churches and private charity, government, or some combination of both.
You can reject socialism without pretending that Matthew 25 has nothing to say about public morality.

Canoso: " And 'nations,' as God defines the term, are not geopolitical entities; that is, nationalities. They are ethnic/linguistic people groups, that is, non-governmental."

What is your evidence that "God defines the term differently"? Point me to some passages

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Canoso: " And 'nations,' as God defines the term, are not geopolitical entities; that is, nationalities. They are ethnic/linguistic people groups, that is, non-governmental."

What is your evidence that "God defines the term? Point me to some passges

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In order for you to punily attempt to debunk them? I think not. Do some lifting of your own for a change.

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Waco1947 said:

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Canoso: " And 'nations,' as God defines the term, are not geopolitical entities; that is, nationalities. They are ethnic/linguistic people groups, that is, non-governmental."

What is your evidence that "God defines the term? Point me to some passges

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In order for you to punily attempt to debunk them? I think not. Do some lifting of your own for a change.

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If you're going to claim that God defines "nations" differently from geographic or political boundaries, then make the biblical case for it. Simply asserting it and telling me to "do some lifting" isn't an argument.

Matthew 25 says the Son of Man will judge "the nations" based on how they treated the hungry, thirsty, stranger, naked, sick, and imprisoned. If you believe "nations" means something other than actual peoples or political communities, show me where the text establishes that definition.

I'm happy to do the liftingbut intellectual honesty requires that you lift something too: the burden of proof for your claim.

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Redbrickbear said:

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One of the biggest stories in American religion is the rise of the non-denominationals.
A rounding error back in the 1970s.
Today? ~33% of all Protestants say they are non-denom.
There are at least 35 million of them in the US. Three times the size of the largest denomination. pic.twitter.com/6q9tVumuCI

— Ryan Burge 📊 (@ryanburge) August 9, 2026

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Baptists hiding behind Denom. Evangelical theology is common to both. Preaching heavy on saving souls (which ok) but totally lacking in social justice and real empathy for people.

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Not exactly hiding, but yes many non-dom are very Baptist like and concerned for reaching souls for Christ.

The rest of your statement is hogwash - lacking in social justice and real empathy. Traditional Baptists are some of the most charitable people on the planet, and actually have a real care for people. Liberals like you are more about lip syncing and overlooking all the good that real christians do in their communities. You take your programming from godless atheists and you wrap it in a fake Jesus candy-wrapper.

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Jesus calls nations to feed the hungry, treat prisoners as human, house the homeless, and provide clean water.
Jesus is very clear that nations are responsible, not just individuals. It is not merely a person's own charitable giving but our collective will as a nation.

Mt 25: 31 "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

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you're an idiot. Jesus did not call nations to enact socialist governments.

Also, conservatives are the most charitable people. Libis are scumbags who want to take other people's money rather than use their own.

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And "nations," as God defines the term, are not geopolitical entities, that is, nationalities. They are ethnic/linguistic people groups, that is, non-governmental.

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Yikes...the "Palestine doesn't exist" crowd is not going to appreciate that.