I guess Ukraine does hold the cards. Vance is an idiot

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sombear
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The_barBEARian said:

sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Why do I care more about this than you do???



Wait, I thought yall supported third parties liberating ethnic majorities in other countries?


I support Serbia over Islam... hopefully that cleared things up for you!

Sorry, I can't keep up, as you're also not a fan of (1) Jews, who help keep Muslims in check, or (2) Ukraine's strong Christian population.
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sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Why do I care more about this than you do???



Wait, I thought yall supported third parties liberating ethnic majorities in other countries?


I support Serbia over Islam... hopefully that cleared things up for you!

Sorry, I can't keep up, as you're also not a fan of (1) Jews, who help keep Muslims in check, or (2) Ukraine's strong Christian population.

1) lol it still amazes me you Boomers actually think this is true... their wars have destabilized the middle east and created massive refugee crises that have flooded all over Europe... and you should be intimately aware that we (America) specifically bombed the one strong European nationalist army that has existed after WW2 that would have resisted these refugees caravans flooding into Europe from the ME

2) I know you pay a huge amount of deference to whatever AI had been programmed to spew out so I ask "What is the Serbian government's position on Ukraine?":

The Serbian government maintains a complex and nuanced position regarding the Ukraine war.
Neutrality and Historical Context
Serbia has historically positioned itself as neutral in the Russia-Ukraine conflict, reflecting its own geopolitical interests and historical ties with Russia. This neutrality is complicated by Serbia's aspirations for EU membership and the pressures that come with it.
Public Sentiment
A significant portion of the Serbian population expresses pro-Russian sentiment, believing that the conflict was provoked by Western powers to undermine Russia. This sentiment influences the government's cautious approach to the conflict.
Recent Developments
In a notable shift, Serbian President Aleksandar Vui has authorized the export of weapons to NATO member states, which is seen as a support for Ukraine's war effort. This decision has sparked debate within Serbia, reflecting the tension between maintaining traditional alliances and responding to international pressures.
Legislative Actions
In response to the conflict, the Serbian government has enacted laws prohibiting its citizens from participating in foreign hostilities, particularly in Ukraine. This indicates an effort to manage domestic involvement while navigating international relations.


The_barBEARian
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sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Why do I care more about this than you do???



Wait, I thought yall supported third parties liberating ethnic majorities in other countries?


I support Serbia over Islam... hopefully that cleared things up for you!

Sorry, I can't keep up, as you're also not a fan of (1) Jews, who help keep Muslims in check, or (2) Ukraine's strong Christian population.









The_barBEARian
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sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Why do I care more about this than you do???



Wait, I thought yall supported third parties liberating ethnic majorities in other countries?


I support Serbia over Islam... hopefully that cleared things up for you!

Sorry, I can't keep up, as you're also not a fan of (1) Jews, who help keep Muslims in check, or (2) Ukraine's strong Christian population.


More debunking of your insane, indoctrinated worldview:

sombear
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The_barBEARian said:

sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Why do I care more about this than you do???



Wait, I thought yall supported third parties liberating ethnic majorities in other countries?


I support Serbia over Islam... hopefully that cleared things up for you!

Sorry, I can't keep up, as you're also not a fan of (1) Jews, who help keep Muslims in check, or (2) Ukraine's strong Christian population.

1) lol it still amazes me you Boomers actually think this is true... their wars have destabilized the middle east and created massive refugee crises that have flooded all over Europe... and you should be intimately aware that we (America) specifically bombed the one strong European nationalist army that has existed after WW2 that would have resisted these refugees caravans flooding into Europe from the ME

2) I know you pay a huge amount of deference to whatever AI had been programmed to spew out so I ask "What is the Serbian government's position on Ukraine?":

The Serbian government maintains a complex and nuanced position regarding the Ukraine war.
Neutrality and Historical Context
Serbia has historically positioned itself as neutral in the Russia-Ukraine conflict, reflecting its own geopolitical interests and historical ties with Russia. This neutrality is complicated by Serbia's aspirations for EU membership and the pressures that come with it.
Public Sentiment
A significant portion of the Serbian population expresses pro-Russian sentiment, believing that the conflict was provoked by Western powers to undermine Russia. This sentiment influences the government's cautious approach to the conflict.
Recent Developments
In a notable shift, Serbian President Aleksandar Vui has authorized the export of weapons to NATO member states, which is seen as a support for Ukraine's war effort. This decision has sparked debate within Serbia, reflecting the tension between maintaining traditional alliances and responding to international pressures.
Legislative Actions
In response to the conflict, the Serbian government has enacted laws prohibiting its citizens from participating in foreign hostilities, particularly in Ukraine. This indicates an effort to manage domestic involvement while navigating international relations.




I'm not sure what "their wars" are. Please enlighten me.

The Middle East has generally been more stable and prosperous than it has historically.

Communist/Socialist Yugoslavia could never get its act together, and it only got worse from there. Late 20th Century Serbia is hardly a positive model for anything.

I'm a huge fan of Poland (and obviously, Ukraine) though.

I'm well aware of Serbia's nuanced views on Russia/Ukraine. I was responding to your claimed concerns for Christians.

I'm a proud Serb and proud American. But I make my own decisions and hold my own views.
The_barBEARian
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sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Why do I care more about this than you do???



Wait, I thought yall supported third parties liberating ethnic majorities in other countries?


I support Serbia over Islam... hopefully that cleared things up for you!

Sorry, I can't keep up, as you're also not a fan of (1) Jews, who help keep Muslims in check, or (2) Ukraine's strong Christian population.

1) lol it still amazes me you Boomers actually think this is true... their wars have destabilized the middle east and created massive refugee crises that have flooded all over Europe... and you should be intimately aware that we (America) specifically bombed the one strong European nationalist army that has existed after WW2 that would have resisted these refugees caravans flooding into Europe from the ME

2) I know you pay a huge amount of deference to whatever AI had been programmed to spew out so I ask "What is the Serbian government's position on Ukraine?":

The Serbian government maintains a complex and nuanced position regarding the Ukraine war.
Neutrality and Historical Context
Serbia has historically positioned itself as neutral in the Russia-Ukraine conflict, reflecting its own geopolitical interests and historical ties with Russia. This neutrality is complicated by Serbia's aspirations for EU membership and the pressures that come with it.
Public Sentiment
A significant portion of the Serbian population expresses pro-Russian sentiment, believing that the conflict was provoked by Western powers to undermine Russia. This sentiment influences the government's cautious approach to the conflict.
Recent Developments
In a notable shift, Serbian President Aleksandar Vui has authorized the export of weapons to NATO member states, which is seen as a support for Ukraine's war effort. This decision has sparked debate within Serbia, reflecting the tension between maintaining traditional alliances and responding to international pressures.
Legislative Actions
In response to the conflict, the Serbian government has enacted laws prohibiting its citizens from participating in foreign hostilities, particularly in Ukraine. This indicates an effort to manage domestic involvement while navigating international relations.




I'm not sure what "their wars" are. Please enlighten me.

The Middle East has generally been more stable and prosperous than it has historically.

Communist/Socialist Yugoslavia could never get its act together, and it only got worse from there. Late 20th Century Serbia is hardly a positive model for anything.

I'm a huge fan of Poland (and obviously, Ukraine) though.

I'm well aware of Serbia's nuanced views on Russia/Ukraine. I was responding to your claimed concerns for Christians.

I'm a proud Serb and proud American. But I make my own decisions and hold my own views.


I'm not Serbian but I have a tremendous respect for the Serbian people and despise my government for ****ing them over.
The_barBEARian
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Israel has lead America by the nose and dictated our ME policy since the JFK assassination.

Pretty much every conflict in my adult life starting with the nation building efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan were advocated for by the Israel Lobby and Israeli government...



Funny how you had nothing to say Israelis supporting the Moroccan invasion of Cuenta and Meillena or the jewish NGOs supporting the refugee caravans into Europe following the destabilization from the wars in Iraq and Afganistan
sombear
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The_barBEARian said:

Israel has lead America by the nose and dictated our ME policy since the JFK assassination.

Pretty much every conflict in my adult life starting with the nation building efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan were advocated for by the Israel Lobby and Israeli government...



Funny how you had nothing to say Israelis supporting the Moroccan invasion of Cuenta and Meillena or the jewish NGOs supporting the refugee caravans into Europe following the destabilization from the wars in Iraq and Afganistan

I knew nothing about that issue and still don't.

And you're wrong about Israel supporting all those wars. And there's certainly no evidence Israel "made us do it."
The_barBEARian
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sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Israel has lead America by the nose and dictated our ME policy since the JFK assassination.

Pretty much every conflict in my adult life starting with the nation building efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan were advocated for by the Israel Lobby and Israeli government...



Funny how you had nothing to say Israelis supporting the Moroccan invasion of Cuenta and Meillena or the jewish NGOs supporting the refugee caravans into Europe following the destabilization from the wars in Iraq and Afganistan

I knew nothing about that issue and still don't.

And you're wrong about Israel supporting all those wars. And there's certainly no evidence Israel "made us do it."


Really? You are telling me with a straight face that Israel didnt advocate for America to start the quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan after I just posted a video of Netanyhau literally testifying for it in front of Congress?!?

Of course they didnt support it once it kicked off with troops on the ground... like they similarly would not support America with troops on the ground if Trump is corrupt enough to launch a ground invasion of Iran on their behalf.... fighting and dying in the trenches is for the goys.
sombear
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The_barBEARian said:

sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Israel has lead America by the nose and dictated our ME policy since the JFK assassination.

Pretty much every conflict in my adult life starting with the nation building efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan were advocated for by the Israel Lobby and Israeli government...



Funny how you had nothing to say Israelis supporting the Moroccan invasion of Cuenta and Meillena or the jewish NGOs supporting the refugee caravans into Europe following the destabilization from the wars in Iraq and Afganistan

I knew nothing about that issue and still don't.

And you're wrong about Israel supporting all those wars. And there's certainly no evidence Israel "made us do it."


Really? You are telling me with a straight face that Israel didnt advocate for America to start the quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan after I just posted a video of Netanyhau literally testifying for it in front of Congress?!?

Of course they didnt support it once it kicked off with troops on the ground... like they similarly would not support America with troops on the ground if Trump is corrupt enough to launch a ground invasion of Iran on their behalf.... fighting and dying in the trenches is for the goys.

Israel had mixed feelings on both.

But, regardless, we were going after Afghanistan and Iraq with or without anyone's support.

There is a massive difference between support and causation. Heck, most of the world supported our Afghanistan war.
The_barBEARian
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sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Israel has lead America by the nose and dictated our ME policy since the JFK assassination.

Pretty much every conflict in my adult life starting with the nation building efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan were advocated for by the Israel Lobby and Israeli government...



Funny how you had nothing to say Israelis supporting the Moroccan invasion of Cuenta and Meillena or the jewish NGOs supporting the refugee caravans into Europe following the destabilization from the wars in Iraq and Afganistan

I knew nothing about that issue and still don't.

And you're wrong about Israel supporting all those wars. And there's certainly no evidence Israel "made us do it."


Really? You are telling me with a straight face that Israel didnt advocate for America to start the quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan after I just posted a video of Netanyhau literally testifying for it in front of Congress?!?

Of course they didnt support it once it kicked off with troops on the ground... like they similarly would not support America with troops on the ground if Trump is corrupt enough to launch a ground invasion of Iran on their behalf.... fighting and dying in the trenches is for the goys.

Israel had mixed feelings on both.

But, regardless, we were going after Afghanistan and Iraq with or without anyone's support.

There is a massive difference between support and causation. Heck, most of the world supported our Afghanistan war.


The Afganistan war was justified imo... but the execution of it was incomprehensibly bad.

Thats why I am shocked that Boomers would support starting any other wars in the ME after experiencing how ******ed our government is at fighting them.
sombear
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The_barBEARian said:

sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

sombear said:

The_barBEARian said:

Israel has lead America by the nose and dictated our ME policy since the JFK assassination.

Pretty much every conflict in my adult life starting with the nation building efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan were advocated for by the Israel Lobby and Israeli government...



Funny how you had nothing to say Israelis supporting the Moroccan invasion of Cuenta and Meillena or the jewish NGOs supporting the refugee caravans into Europe following the destabilization from the wars in Iraq and Afganistan

I knew nothing about that issue and still don't.

And you're wrong about Israel supporting all those wars. And there's certainly no evidence Israel "made us do it."


Really? You are telling me with a straight face that Israel didnt advocate for America to start the quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan after I just posted a video of Netanyhau literally testifying for it in front of Congress?!?

Of course they didnt support it once it kicked off with troops on the ground... like they similarly would not support America with troops on the ground if Trump is corrupt enough to launch a ground invasion of Iran on their behalf.... fighting and dying in the trenches is for the goys.

Israel had mixed feelings on both.

But, regardless, we were going after Afghanistan and Iraq with or without anyone's support.

There is a massive difference between support and causation. Heck, most of the world supported our Afghanistan war.


The Afganistan war was justified imo... but the execution of it was incomprehensibly bad.

Thats why I am shocked that Boomers would support starting any other wars in the ME after experiencing how ******ed our government is at fighting them.


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