"Democrat" double standard seen with Ilhan Omar

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Apparently the DNA test came out positive: they are siblings.
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

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fubar said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

BEHOLD: Democrats who said "no one is above the law" are very upset that the DOJ is investigating a Democrat

https://notthebee.com/article/behold-democrats-who-said-no-one-is-above-the-law-are-very-upset-that-the-doj-is-investigating-a-democrat

They loved to say "No one is above the law" when they used law fare against Trump in fake charges and no evidence but not so much when one of them apparently is guilty of very serious crimes.

I realize this will make absolutely no difference to "conservatives," but the accusations against Trump were in fact very real.


Not only real, Trump had every opportunity to cure before it went to warrant. He is willing to burn down the country.

Yessir.


If that were the full truth, then Biden would have been prosecuted well before Trump. Justice has not been blind for some time on the matter of classified documents. If it had, both men would have been charged, tried, and if found guilty then sentenced as hard as all the government grunts that have served time.
As it has stood for a long time, the executive big wigs and Congress members get a whole lot of leeway.

Biden cooperated and returned the documents. Trump had more than enough opportunity to do the same, but he refused. It's not that complicated.


Biden had not cooperated for many years before that, but was never raided or searched until Trump was targeted for documents. It was not a secret about Biden and documents, it just wasn't pursued until Trump. Even then the reasons not to pursue any further charges against Joe Biden are garbage. He was never going to be in any real trouble.
It has been as I stated above. DC rules have been ridiculously different for the elites. Trump became the exception for that.
Simplistic view you have there that is not what the document investigation into Biden concluded in its own documents.

Not even close to the truth. The initial batch of Biden documents was discovered by his own lawyers and returned the next day. Biden cooperated with the DOJ to locate and return the rest of them as quickly as possible. The investigation concluded that the documents could plausibly have been kept by mistake and that prosecution was unwarranted because the evidence didn't establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

In contrast, the Trump documents were found missing by the National Archives. What followed was more than a year of haggling, obstruction, and defiance by Trump, during which time the documents were stored in a grossly unsecure manner and, in some instances, openly displayed to his guests. To this day it's still not clear whether all of them were recovered.

The timing of the statements you quoted don't match what you are trying to say. Biden's documents were out there known well before that statement was made. This is you trying to be twisty.

Now explain the dottering old man defense for not proceeding to court.

I'm not sure what your first paragraph is saying. There was no investigation because the government didn't know the documents were missing. His lawyers returned them voluntarily after the Mar-a-Lago scandal broke.

It never went to court because Biden cooperated, it was plausible that he kept the documents by mistake, and the evidence didn't establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Prosecutors always evaluate the demeanor of witnesses. That doesn't mean it was the only factor, as some would have you believe.

Your timing is way off again. I think you do this on purpose.

'I just found all the classified stuff downstairs,' Biden tells ghostwriter in recording

BBC article.

from it:
During Biden's tenure as president from 2021-25, the justice department declined to release the audio tapes.

Your timing is off. According to your own link, the DOJ didn't obtain those tapes until 2024.
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"not to my knowledge" pretty much put the stamp down on this thing
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

He ex husband is living in the UK, I believe. How'd they get his DNA? They would need that to match with hers.

She doesn't represent anything I could agree with but I would hope this isn't anger because she wears something that is offensive to wee ones on sic'em riding in the back of momma's mini-van..

I hope you're sitting down ... but there are these things call "airplanes." They are called "airplanes" because they effectively move on a plane in the air. In 2026, it is possible to actually move from America to England. #mindblown

How do you explain that she has the exact same name as her brusband besides her personal name? What are the odds?

To boot, there is a striking family resemblance between her and her "ex-husband".
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

He ex husband is living in the UK, I believe. How'd they get his DNA? They would need that to match with hers.

She doesn't represent anything I could agree with but I would hope this isn't anger because she wears something that is offensive to wee ones on sic'em riding in the back of momma's mini-van..

I suspect if anyone is angry at "Omar," it has more to do with her being a deplorable person than Muslim. But alleging Islamophobia is always the left's dog whistle.

This is the member of Congress who referred to 9/11 as "some people did something," compared the U.S. and Israel to Hamas and the Taliban, made comments condemned by members of both parties as antisemitic, and voted against a House resolution condemning Hamas after October 7.

People don't need to know or care that she's Muslim to disagree with her. Her own words are enough.
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Not to mention her action.
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Mothra said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

He ex husband is living in the UK, I believe. How'd they get his DNA? They would need that to match with hers.

She doesn't represent anything I could agree with but I would hope this isn't anger because she wears something that is offensive to wee ones on sic'em riding in the back of momma's mini-van..

I suspect if anyone is angry at "Omar," it has more to do with her being a deplorable person than Muslim.

Being a Democrat triggers some because of her wild political stance. Being a person of color and wearing headgear just adds to the anger of Trumpians.
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Mothra said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

He ex husband is living in the UK, I believe. How'd they get his DNA? They would need that to match with hers.

She doesn't represent anything I could agree with but I would hope this isn't anger because she wears something that is offensive to wee ones on sic'em riding in the back of momma's mini-van..

I suspect if anyone is angry at "Omar," it has more to do with her being a deplorable person than Muslim.

Being a Democrat triggers some because of her wild political stance. Being a person of color and wearing headgear just adds to the anger of Trumpians.

Maybe some do. Every movement has idiots. Your side has a whole host of them.

But invoking race or religion every time someone criticizes Omar is a convenient way to avoid discussing the long list of things she's actually said and done. Her critics don't need to know she's Muslim to object to her record. But you guys love to play the race/xenophobia card.

BTW, what's happening in Europe should be a reminder that tolerance is not a suicide pact. Citizens are allowed to discuss the consequences of importing ideologies that are hostile to free expression, secular government, equal rights, and Western democratic norms.

Labeling those concerns "xenophobia" doesn't refute them. It just avoids the debate
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Mothra said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Mothra said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

He ex husband is living in the UK, I believe. How'd they get his DNA? They would need that to match with hers.

She doesn't represent anything I could agree with but I would hope this isn't anger because she wears something that is offensive to wee ones on sic'em riding in the back of momma's mini-van..

I suspect if anyone is angry at "Omar," it has more to do with her being a deplorable person than Muslim.

Being a Democrat triggers some because of her wild political stance. Being a person of color and wearing headgear just adds to the anger of Trumpians.

Maybe some do. Every movement has idiots. Your side has a whole host of them.

But invoking race or religion every time someone criticizes Omar is a convenient way to avoid discussing the long list of things she's actually said and done. Her critics don't need to know she's Muslim to object to her record. But you guys love to play the race/xenophobia card.

BTW, what's happening in Europe should be a reminder that tolerance is not a suicide pact. Citizens are allowed to discuss the consequences of importing ideologies that are hostile to free expression, secular government, equal rights, and Western democratic norms.

Labeling those concerns "xenophobia" doesn't refute them. It just avoids the debate


Good post.

It's incredible how many individuals will ignore the horrific consequences of massive illegal immigration.

The violent crimes, the carnage on our roads, over loaded hospitals, and the billions in theft and graft.

The burning of Christian Churches , massive illegal voting , the garbage thrown throughout our communities.

All ignored, all excused ….if such cultural and financial suicide benefits their political party.
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Trump demands Ilhan Omar be removed from Congress for being sworn in on a fake name

https://notthebee.com/article/trump-demands-ilhan-omar-be-removed-from-congress-for-being-sworn-in-on-a-fake-name

“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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yes yes yes
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Johnny Bear said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

He ex husband is living in the UK, I believe. How'd they get his DNA? They would need that to match with hers.

She doesn't represent anything I could agree with but I would hope this isn't anger because she wears something that is offensive to wee ones on sic'em riding in the back of momma's mini-van..

I hope you're sitting down ... but there are these things call "airplanes." They are called "airplanes" because they effectively move on a plane in the air. In 2026, it is possible to actually move from America to England. #mindblown

How do you explain that she has the exact same name as her brusband besides her personal name? What are the odds?

To boot, there is a striking family resemblance between her and her "ex-husband".

There is a lot of evidence pointing to the brusband:

1. They have the exact same family names - odds virtually impossible that would happen
2. He replied to several social media posts that she "liked" welcoming his "niece/nephew" when she announced the birth of her child
3. He replied to several social media posts that she "liked" welcoming his "niece/nephew" when her sister announced the birth of her child
4. She did not deny it during the "interview"
5. The DNA if true

So funny how the tribal LWNJs will believe Nolan Wells was murdered with zero evidence but do not believe this despite lots of evidence.
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she has brown skin. She can do whatever she wants according to liberals

except vote Republican
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Danielsjackson114 said:

she has brown skin. She can do whatever she wants according to liberals

except vote Republican

My grandfather was a sheriff in Ellis County in the 1920's when the Klan dominated Texas politics and local communities. My grandfather and my dad had to hide under a vehicle to avoid being lynched by the Klan.

Dallas' Klavern 66 was the largest in the nation and the Ft Worth chapter had a 4,000 seat hall. That was about 1922.

I've noted three or four of the most frequent posters on this R&P Board continue to represent those views from the 1920's. Followers of Bo French are classic example.

BTW I was stunned to see Cody Campbell of TT fame be a huge follower and congtributor to Bo French's racist history.

There are many honorable Republicans who refuse to be a part of the modern MAGA party. The Cornyn's and Bush's are forefront. So is Thomas Massie (Kentucky) and Tillis (NC).

Tillis' book "How to Lose Friends and Antagonize Presidents" says it all about today's MAGA.
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I don't abide by your liberal lunacy

Not wanting groups of people from countries that cannot assimilate or coexist with western values is just human nature

What's funny is that you liberal nut jobs want other people to suffer through it, not yourselves…

When abbot shipped immigrants to Martha's Vineyard, it was the perfect example
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

she has brown skin. She can do whatever she wants according to liberals

except vote Republican

My grandfather was a sheriff in Ellis County in the 1920's when the Klan dominated Texas politics and local communities. My grandfather and my dad had to hide under a vehicle to avoid being lynched by the Klan.

Dallas' Klavern 66 was the largest in the nation and the Ft Worth chapter had a 4,000 seat hall. That was about 1922.

I've noted three or four of the most frequent posters on this R&P Board continue to represent those views from the 1920's. Followers of Bo French are classic example.

BTW I was stunned to see Cody Campbell of TT fame be a huge follower and congtributor to Bo French's racist history.

There are many honorable Republicans who refuse to be a part of the modern MAGA party. The Cornyn's and Bush's are forefront. So is Thomas Massie (Kentucky) and Tillis (NC).

Tillis' book "How to Lose Friends and Antagonize Presidents" says it all about today's MAGA.


Two things:

1. Your Grandfather was sheriff when the Democrats dominated politically.

2. Ever notice there is always a group of republicans rising up to fight republicans but never, ever a group of democrats rising up to fight democrats? They just hide under their cars and let the party dictate their actions
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If Trump wanted to save the midterms he would have ICE just arrest every Somalian in the country and put them on a one way boat back to where they belong,.
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Liberals say that is what makes America great!
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Ilhan doubles down with her chud bros and JR

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lmao the walls are caving in for Mrs. Somali fraud
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GrowlTowel said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

she has brown skin. She can do whatever she wants according to liberals

except vote Republican

My grandfather was a sheriff in Ellis County in the 1920's when the Klan dominated Texas politics and local communities. My grandfather and my dad had to hide under a vehicle to avoid being lynched by the Klan.

Dallas' Klavern 66 was the largest in the nation and the Ft Worth chapter had a 4,000 seat hall. That was about 1922.

I've noted three or four of the most frequent posters on this R&P Board continue to represent those views from the 1920's. Followers of Bo French are classic example.

BTW I was stunned to see Cody Campbell of TT fame be a huge follower and congtributor to Bo French's racist history.

There are many honorable Republicans who refuse to be a part of the modern MAGA party. The Cornyn's and Bush's are forefront. So is Thomas Massie (Kentucky) and Tillis (NC).

Tillis' book "How to Lose Friends and Antagonize Presidents" says it all about today's MAGA.


Two things:

1. Your Grandfather was sheriff when the Democrats dominated politically.

2. Ever notice there is always a group of republicans rising up to fight republicans but never, ever a group of democrats rising up to fight democrats? They just hide under their cars and let the party dictate their actions

Why do LWJNs constantly bring up stories like this from the past and suggest they're somehow at all relevant to the way things are in the 21st Century and/or have any connection whatsoever to today's MAGA movement? Per your point one, they also conveniently fail to mention that the Klan was 100% a violent arm of the dumocrat party similar to how Hitler's brown shirts were a violent arm of the Nazi Party. The MAGA moment is ALL about making the country a better and more prosperous place for EVERYONE - repeat EVERYONE. And unlike what the LWJNs believe, racism has no place in any of it.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Johnny Bear said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

He ex husband is living in the UK, I believe. How'd they get his DNA? They would need that to match with hers.

She doesn't represent anything I could agree with but I would hope this isn't anger because she wears something that is offensive to wee ones on sic'em riding in the back of momma's mini-van..

I hope you're sitting down ... but there are these things call "airplanes." They are called "airplanes" because they effectively move on a plane in the air. In 2026, it is possible to actually move from America to England. #mindblown

How do you explain that she has the exact same name as her brusband besides her personal name? What are the odds?

To boot, there is a striking family resemblance between her and her "ex-husband".

There is a lot of evidence pointing to the brusband:

1. They have the exact same family names - odds virtually impossible that would happen
2. He replied to several social media posts that she "liked" welcoming his "niece/nephew" when she announced the birth of her child
3. He replied to several social media posts that she "liked" welcoming his "niece/nephew" when her sister announced the birth of her child
4. She did not deny it during the "interview"
5. The DNA if true

So funny how the tribal LWNJs will believe Nolan Wells was murdered with zero evidence but do not believe this despite lots of evidence.

Additionally, Somali culture is notorious for inbreeding. It's an unpleasant fact as is their predilection for fraud.
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historian said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Johnny Bear said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

He ex husband is living in the UK, I believe. How'd they get his DNA? They would need that to match with hers.

She doesn't represent anything I could agree with but I would hope this isn't anger because she wears something that is offensive to wee ones on sic'em riding in the back of momma's mini-van..

I hope you're sitting down ... but there are these things call "airplanes." They are called "airplanes" because they effectively move on a plane in the air. In 2026, it is possible to actually move from America to England. #mindblown

How do you explain that she has the exact same name as her brusband besides her personal name? What are the odds?

To boot, there is a striking family resemblance between her and her "ex-husband".

There is a lot of evidence pointing to the brusband:

1. They have the exact same family names - odds virtually impossible that would happen
2. He replied to several social media posts that she "liked" welcoming his "niece/nephew" when she announced the birth of her child
3. He replied to several social media posts that she "liked" welcoming his "niece/nephew" when her sister announced the birth of her child
4. She did not deny it during the "interview"
5. The DNA if true

So funny how the tribal LWNJs will believe Nolan Wells was murdered with zero evidence but do not believe this despite lots of evidence.

Additionally, Somali culture is notorious for inbreeding. It's an unpleasant fact as is their predilection for fraud.

Looking at Somalis makes it very obvious.
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Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

fubar said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

BEHOLD: Democrats who said "no one is above the law" are very upset that the DOJ is investigating a Democrat

https://notthebee.com/article/behold-democrats-who-said-no-one-is-above-the-law-are-very-upset-that-the-doj-is-investigating-a-democrat

They loved to say "No one is above the law" when they used law fare against Trump in fake charges and no evidence but not so much when one of them apparently is guilty of very serious crimes.

I realize this will make absolutely no difference to "conservatives," but the accusations against Trump were in fact very real.


Not only real, Trump had every opportunity to cure before it went to warrant. He is willing to burn down the country.

Yessir.


If that were the full truth, then Biden would have been prosecuted well before Trump. Justice has not been blind for some time on the matter of classified documents. If it had, both men would have been charged, tried, and if found guilty then sentenced as hard as all the government grunts that have served time.
As it has stood for a long time, the executive big wigs and Congress members get a whole lot of leeway.

Biden cooperated and returned the documents. Trump had more than enough opportunity to do the same, but he refused. It's not that complicated.


Biden had not cooperated for many years before that, but was never raided or searched until Trump was targeted for documents. It was not a secret about Biden and documents, it just wasn't pursued until Trump. Even then the reasons not to pursue any further charges against Joe Biden are garbage. He was never going to be in any real trouble.
It has been as I stated above. DC rules have been ridiculously different for the elites. Trump became the exception for that.
Simplistic view you have there that is not what the document investigation into Biden concluded in its own documents.

Not even close to the truth. The initial batch of Biden documents was discovered by his own lawyers and returned the next day. Biden cooperated with the DOJ to locate and return the rest of them as quickly as possible. The investigation concluded that the documents could plausibly have been kept by mistake and that prosecution was unwarranted because the evidence didn't establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

In contrast, the Trump documents were found missing by the National Archives. What followed was more than a year of haggling, obstruction, and defiance by Trump, during which time the documents were stored in a grossly unsecure manner and, in some instances, openly displayed to his guests. To this day it's still not clear whether all of them were recovered.

The timing of the statements you quoted don't match what you are trying to say. Biden's documents were out there known well before that statement was made. This is you trying to be twisty.

Now explain the dottering old man defense for not proceeding to court.

I'm not sure what your first paragraph is saying. There was no investigation because the government didn't know the documents were missing. His lawyers returned them voluntarily after the Mar-a-Lago scandal broke.

It never went to court because Biden cooperated, it was plausible that he kept the documents by mistake, and the evidence didn't establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Prosecutors always evaluate the demeanor of witnesses. That doesn't mean it was the only factor, as some would have you believe.

Your timing is way off again. I think you do this on purpose.

'I just found all the classified stuff downstairs,' Biden tells ghostwriter in recording

BBC article.

from it:
During Biden's tenure as president from 2021-25, the justice department declined to release the audio tapes.

Your timing is off. According to your own link, the DOJ didn't obtain those tapes until 2024.


Read it again. It says the Biden DOJ didn't release the tapes, which means they had them. Which means they knew of the documents.
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As much as I'd love to see her gone, I just don't see it happening. No scandal that big ever seems to have justice served.
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Healthy skepticism.

It looks like she is in deep trouble and will be deported. But we need to see it happen.
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Upon arriving at the location, a Deputy made contact with the individual and determined that he was an illegal alien from Guatemala.

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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

fubar said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

fubar said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

BEHOLD: Democrats who said "no one is above the law" are very upset that the DOJ is investigating a Democrat

https://notthebee.com/article/behold-democrats-who-said-no-one-is-above-the-law-are-very-upset-that-the-doj-is-investigating-a-democrat

They loved to say "No one is above the law" when they used law fare against Trump in fake charges and no evidence but not so much when one of them apparently is guilty of very serious crimes.

I realize this will make absolutely no difference to "conservatives," but the accusations against Trump were in fact very real.


Not only real, Trump had every opportunity to cure before it went to warrant. He is willing to burn down the country.

Yessir.


If that were the full truth, then Biden would have been prosecuted well before Trump. Justice has not been blind for some time on the matter of classified documents. If it had, both men would have been charged, tried, and if found guilty then sentenced as hard as all the government grunts that have served time.
As it has stood for a long time, the executive big wigs and Congress members get a whole lot of leeway.

Biden cooperated and returned the documents. Trump had more than enough opportunity to do the same, but he refused. It's not that complicated.

It takes a willing imbecile to not see the difference.

Welcome to the sicem365 R&P Board.


You're projecting. Only an imbecile would think Biden returned them - how were they recovered from his Chinese-funded "think tank" and his garage? It's not hard - facts don't care about your feelings.

While you could easily make the srgument the government should have raided Biden's garage, you cannot say they raided Trump's resort without reason. It boils down to yet another "b-b-b-buttt BIDENNN??????" argument that is only slightly more en vogue than "butttt OBAMA???"

I think it is called more simply wanting a single standard of justice.


Obama, Biden, Clinton - probably Bush - all had documents. Only Trump was raided by the FBI. Just like the FBI was used by the Bidens to raid a journalist's home to recover his daughter's diary and Obama used the IRS to attack political opponents.

The left has no problem with such tactics as long as it is yielding the power.


Bingo

This is the issue...
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Sam Lowry said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

fubar said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

BEHOLD: Democrats who said "no one is above the law" are very upset that the DOJ is investigating a Democrat

https://notthebee.com/article/behold-democrats-who-said-no-one-is-above-the-law-are-very-upset-that-the-doj-is-investigating-a-democrat

They loved to say "No one is above the law" when they used law fare against Trump in fake charges and no evidence but not so much when one of them apparently is guilty of very serious crimes.

I realize this will make absolutely no difference to "conservatives," but the accusations against Trump were in fact very real.


Not only real, Trump had every opportunity to cure before it went to warrant. He is willing to burn down the country.

Yessir.


If that were the full truth, then Biden would have been prosecuted well before Trump. Justice has not been blind for some time on the matter of classified documents. If it had, both men would have been charged, tried, and if found guilty then sentenced as hard as all the government grunts that have served time.
As it has stood for a long time, the executive big wigs and Congress members get a whole lot of leeway.

Biden cooperated and returned the documents. Trump had more than enough opportunity to do the same, but he refused. It's not that complicated.


Biden had not cooperated for many years before that, but was never raided or searched until Trump was targeted for documents. It was not a secret about Biden and documents, it just wasn't pursued until Trump. Even then the reasons not to pursue any further charges against Joe Biden are garbage. He was never going to be in any real trouble.
It has been as I stated above. DC rules have been ridiculously different for the elites. Trump became the exception for that.
Simplistic view you have there that is not what the document investigation into Biden concluded in its own documents.

Not even close to the truth. The initial batch of Biden documents was discovered by his own lawyers and returned the next day. Biden cooperated with the DOJ to locate and return the rest of them as quickly as possible. The investigation concluded that the documents could plausibly have been kept by mistake and that prosecution was unwarranted because the evidence didn't establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

In contrast, the Trump documents were found missing by the National Archives. What followed was more than a year of haggling, obstruction, and defiance by Trump, during which time the documents were stored in a grossly unsecure manner and, in some instances, openly displayed to his guests. To this day it's still not clear whether all of them were recovered.

The timing of the statements you quoted don't match what you are trying to say. Biden's documents were out there known well before that statement was made. This is you trying to be twisty.

Now explain the dottering old man defense for not proceeding to court.

I'm not sure what your first paragraph is saying. There was no investigation because the government didn't know the documents were missing. His lawyers returned them voluntarily after the Mar-a-Lago scandal broke.

It never went to court because Biden cooperated, it was plausible that he kept the documents by mistake, and the evidence didn't establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Prosecutors always evaluate the demeanor of witnesses. That doesn't mean it was the only factor, as some would have you believe.

Your timing is way off again. I think you do this on purpose.

'I just found all the classified stuff downstairs,' Biden tells ghostwriter in recording

BBC article.

from it:
During Biden's tenure as president from 2021-25, the justice department declined to release the audio tapes.

Your timing is off. According to your own link, the DOJ didn't obtain those tapes until 2024.


Read it again. It says the Biden DOJ didn't release the tapes, which means they had them. Which means they knew of the documents.

"Significantly, Zwonitzer voluntarily consented to two interviews and could have, but did not, invoke the Fifth Amendment to decline to produce the transcripts, his laptop, and the external hard drive. And when FBI agents contacted Zwonitzer, they were unaware that audio recordings existed or where Zwonitzer's electronic devices were located. Therefore, agents did not have probable cause for a warrant to search those devices and recover the recordings. Investigators only learned of the evidence because Zwonitzer was forthright, explained his actions, produced the relevant electronic devices, and consented to the search of those devices."

https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117488/documents/HMKP-118-JU00-20240627-SD004.pdf
JusHappy2BeHere
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The core difference between Donald Trump's classified documents case and the situations involving Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama comes down to willful retention, obstruction of justice, and a lack of cooperation with federal authorities.

While other officials were found with classified materials, independent investigations and special counsel reports noted that their cases involved accidental mishandling followed by immediate compliance, whereas Trump actively resisted returning the documents

The Three Critical Distinctions in Trump's Case
1. Willful Retention vs. Accidental Stash
In the cases of Biden and Mike Pence, documents were discovered during routine pack-ups of post-VP offices. Once found, they immediately contacted NARA. Prosecutors concluded that Trump, by contrast, knowingly kept specific high-level national defense records (including nuclear and military secrets).

2.Deception and Obstruction
Trump's indictment specifically targeted his actions after the government asked for the documents back. Prosecutors alleged that Trump ignored demands for over a year, directed staff to move boxes to evade federal investigators, and signed a false certification stating all classified materials had been returned when they hadn't.

3. The Role of Legal Frameworks
Trump frequently argued that previous presidents "hoarded" records, but NARA explicitly debunked this. When Obama and Bush moved documents to their respective home states for presidential libraries, they did so in partnership with and under the physical custody of NARA employees. Trump held his documents privately without NARA authorization, which ultimately led to the federal search warrant.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it--always."

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JusHappy2BeHere said:

The core difference between Donald Trump's classified documents case and the situations involving Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama comes down to willful retention, obstruction of justice, and a lack of cooperation with federal authorities.

While other officials were found with classified materials, independent investigations and special counsel reports noted that their cases involved accidental mishandling followed by immediate compliance, whereas Trump actively resisted returning the documents

The Three Critical Distinctions in Trump's Case
1. Willful Retention vs. Accidental Stash
In the cases of Biden and Mike Pence, documents were discovered during routine pack-ups of post-VP offices. Once found, they immediately contacted NARA. Prosecutors concluded that Trump, by contrast, knowingly kept specific high-level national defense records (including nuclear and military secrets).

2.Deception and Obstruction
Trump's indictment specifically targeted his actions after the government asked for the documents back. Prosecutors alleged that Trump ignored demands for over a year, directed staff to move boxes to evade federal investigators, and signed a false certification stating all classified materials had been returned when they hadn't.

3. The Role of Legal Frameworks
Trump frequently argued that previous presidents "hoarded" records, but NARA explicitly debunked this. When Obama and Bush moved documents to their respective home states for presidential libraries, they did so in partnership with and under the physical custody of NARA employees. Trump held his documents privately without NARA authorization, which ultimately led to the federal search warrant.


Incorrect.
Oldbear83
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So many words to tell a weak lie.
 
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