Right wing lunacy - Oil Companies profits at all time high

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Waco1947
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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.
Waco1947
Danielsjackson114
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Another big wet fart, Wacko1947
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Another big wet fart, Wacko1947

I never thought the day would come where a poster here would make Waco1947 sound like the voice of reason. That poster is you, Danielsjackson.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

Donald Trump is President, not a Democrat. He has been in office almost two years. The Republicans control the House and the Senate.

Trump has drained our Strategic Petroleum Reserves. He has claimed he now wants to buy diesel from Russia. The Strait of Hormuz has been choked off to a trickle. Iran did not control the Strait before Trump started his war.

At what point are you Trump kowtowers going to acknowledge that Trump's foreign policy is a total disaster?
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
GrowlTowel
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

Donald Trump is President, not a Democrat. He has been in office almost two years. The Republicans control the House and the Senate.

Trump has drained our Strategic Petroleum Reserves. He has claimed he now wants to buy diesel from Russia. The Strait of Hormuz has been choked off to a trickle. Iran did not control the Strait before Trump started his war.

At what point are you Trump kowtowers going to acknowledge that Trump's foreign policy is a total disaster?

So you couldn't name one?

Okay, so your alternative to the Republicans is the higher gas prices pushed by the Democrats? The jeans at Macy's are too expensive so you shop at Neiman's?

Strategic Oil Reserves you say. You mean the one the depleted by Auto-Pen to reduce gas prices four years ago before his mid-term election?
EatMoreSalmon
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No data shows that the democrats can do anything but worse on energy costs. This is really a thread asking everyone to forget about the past, recent and further back.
Oldbear83
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EatMoreSalmon said:

No data shows that the democrats can do anything but worse on energy costs. This is really a thread asking everyone to forget about the past, recent and further back.

Democrats will never win on the merits of their policies. They depend, utterly, on mindless rage and demanding conservatives support Democrats by insulting the Republicans for not being perfect.
FLBear5630
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GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

Didn't Kelly introduce the Gas Price Relieve Act in 2026?

My issue is that you throw Trump and MAGA in with Republicans. They are not...
KaiBear
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GrowlTowel said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

Donald Trump is President, not a Democrat. He has been in office almost two years. The Republicans control the House and the Senate.

Trump has drained our Strategic Petroleum Reserves. He has claimed he now wants to buy diesel from Russia. The Strait of Hormuz has been choked off to a trickle. Iran did not control the Strait before Trump started his war.

At what point are you Trump kowtowers going to acknowledge that Trump's foreign policy is a total disaster?

So you couldn't name one?

Okay, so your alternative to the Republicans is the higher gas prices pushed by the Democrats? The jeans at Macy's are too expensive so you shop at Neiman's?

Strategic Oil Reserves you say. You mean the one the depleted by Auto-Pen to reduce gas prices four years ago before his mid-term election?


Game

Set

and

Match



Well done sir.
Danielsjackson114
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Our resident liberal whack jobs are cute when they get mad
Mitch Blood Green
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GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.


Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid
Adriacus Peratuun
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Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.


Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.
GrowlTowel
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Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.


Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid


Anything mentioning green energy is nominated for dumbest post of the year in a discussion about energy costs.
Johnny Bear
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GrowlTowel said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.


Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid


Anything mentioning green energy is nominated for dumbest post of the year in a discussion about energy costs.

I hope for Mitch's sake nobody ever approaches him selling beachfront property in Kansas.
Aliceinbubbleland
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Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.


The cost of gas is not al that high for regular. If you need premium it's high but if you can afford that type of car you don't care. Those oil companies you think are evil employ a hell of a lot of folks helping the economy.

The national debt should be your concern. Not the economy driving employers. I'm so pissed with MAGA i'm voting blue this time only. When i read posts like yours I know what I'm getting when the givesaways return.
J.R.
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KaiBear said:

GrowlTowel said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

Donald Trump is President, not a Democrat. He has been in office almost two years. The Republicans control the House and the Senate.

Trump has drained our Strategic Petroleum Reserves. He has claimed he now wants to buy diesel from Russia. The Strait of Hormuz has been choked off to a trickle. Iran did not control the Strait before Trump started his war.

At what point are you Trump kowtowers going to acknowledge that Trump's foreign policy is a total disaster?

So you couldn't name one?

Okay, so your alternative to the Republicans is the higher gas prices pushed by the Democrats? The jeans at Macy's are too expensive so you shop at Neiman's?

Strategic Oil Reserves you say. You mean the one the depleted by Auto-Pen to reduce gas prices four years ago before his mid-term election?


Game

Set

and

Match



Well done sir.

the facts are that both Biden and Trump both drained the SPR trying to get gasoline prices down. Backfire Piggy
FLBear5630
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.


Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.
Danielsjackson114
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Here we go with the mental gymnastics from Flunaticbear
Adriacus Peratuun
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FLBear5630 said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.


Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

FLBear5630 said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.


Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.



You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...


OffshoreBear
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Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.


It's almost impressive how you can watch Democrats shut down pipelines, kill drilling permits, and choke off supply for years, then act shocked when oil companies make more money on the scarce barrels that are left. Supply and demand isn't a conspiracy. It's why gas was cheaper under Trump the first time and why it shot up under Biden. The same people cheering the restrictions are the ones paying for them at the pump. Thank your local Democrat for the higher prices. The oil companies just adapted.

Being in the oil industry, we always seem to do better when a liberal is in office because they don't understand economics. Haha
I came for the rumors, stayed for the overreactions.
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FLBear5630 said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

FLBear5630 said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.


Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.



You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...




Right Fecal Boy. Your claim of victory is hollow nothingness.

Oil usage is effectively stable (with a slight drop recently) and has been since bouncing back from the pandemic.

On the other hand electrical usage is rising at least 4% annually and your answer to gasoline pricing is to increase electrical usage (a locally priced energy source). And to do it in a way that basically has zero impact on oil prices since they are a global commodity. A million new electrical cars in the USA has minimal impact on global oil consumption.

Oil prices depend on two items…,,and only two items absent a global shutdown…….production levels and deliverability. Not usage. In the vast majority of situations, usage is a given.

Do solutions exist to minimize oil price spikes caused by production drops or deliverability freezes? Yes. The world could increase oil storage by 25,000%. That endeavor might deliver the ability to soften peaks for six months. It would also bankrupt most governments.

Building electrical cars is a faux panacea. Real Fixes…..drilling, pipelines, refining capability. And ending the ability of one rogue regime to shut down deliverability for a large chunk of global production.

But reality doesn't align with your agenda so you bluster.

adults in the room (since March 2026):

global oil production has dropped by 8.2 million barrels per day
global oil consumption has dropped by 2.6 million barrels per day
fight price increase by increasing global production
increase production by drilling and opening waterways

FloridaBoy:

throw tantrum
f Trump
stomp feet

J.R.
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OffshoreBear said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.


It's almost impressive how you can watch Democrats shut down pipelines, kill drilling permits, and choke off supply for years, then act shocked when oil companies make more money on the scarce barrels that are left. Supply and demand isn't a conspiracy. It's why gas was cheaper under Trump the first time and why it shot up under Biden. The same people cheering the restrictions are the ones paying for them at the pump. Thank your local Democrat for the higher prices. The oil companies just adapted.

Being in the oil industry, we always seem to do better when a liberal is in office because they don't understand economics. Haha

funny thing and I agree. I always say I make a whole lot more $ in the patch when dems are in office (except Trump). They always trying to put us out of business, but it always backfires in their faces.
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UUUuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhlllllll{flatulence}llllllllllhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....................

- UF

D!

{ sipping coffee }

pro ecclesia, pro javelina
william
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we need more more energy from more energy sources.....

- UF

.........not a zero sum game.

unless you want to go back to cave dwelling and carrier pigeons and flintstone mobiles.

yabba dabba daaaaaale!!



D!

Go Bears!!
pro ecclesia, pro javelina
FLBear5630
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william said:

we need more more energy from more energy sources.....

- UF

.........not a zero sum game.

unless you want to go back to cave dwelling and carrier pigeons and flintstone mobiles.

yabba dabba daaaaaale!!



D!

Go Bears!!

Thank you! Running back to 1965 is not the answer. Increasing sources and matching to highest and best use.

The answer is providing more options, not locking us into a course to protect certain people.
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

FLBear5630 said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

FLBear5630 said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.


Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.



You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...




Right Fecal Boy. Your claim of victory is hollow nothingness.

Oil usage is effectively stable (with a slight drop recently) and has been since bouncing back from the pandemic.

On the other hand electrical usage is rising at least 4% annually and your answer to gasoline pricing is to increase electrical usage (a locally priced energy source). And to do it in a way that basically has zero impact on oil prices since they are a global commodity. A million new electrical cars in the USA has minimal impact on global oil consumption.

Oil prices depend on two items…,,and only two items absent a global shutdown…….production levels and deliverability. Not usage. In the vast majority of situations, usage is a given.

Do solutions exist to minimize oil price spikes caused by production drops or deliverability freezes? Yes. The world could increase oil storage by 25,000%. That endeavor might deliver the ability to soften peaks for six months. It would also bankrupt most governments.

Building electrical cars is a faux panacea. Real Fixes…..drilling, pipelines, refining capability. And ending the ability of one rogue regime to shut down deliverability for a large chunk of global production.

But reality doesn't align with your agenda so you bluster.

adults in the room (since March 2026):

global oil production has dropped by 8.2 million barrels per day
global oil consumption has dropped by 2.6 million barrels per day
fight price increase by increasing global production
increase production by drilling and opening waterways

FloridaBoy:

throw tantrum
f Trump
stomp feet



Yawn... Once again, you move the goal posts to fit your ego.

No one, but you, is talking about the economics of the oil industry. And if we were, you would not be who I would be asking!

The discussion is energy policy and who is coming up with those policies. Neither you, nor I, know whether the policies will work or what their final form will be. But, to say that the other side is not putting out any energy policies in the last 25 years is outright false. Will they work? Who knows. No more that the policies you are lock step following right now. But, there are different ways to look at the problem than "big Oil".

Now if you want to go back and explain to Jackson how the oil industry works have at it. But, think about it, he is the only one agreeing with you. You really want to be there?????
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FLBear5630 said:

william said:

we need more more energy from more energy sources.....

- UF

.........not a zero sum game.

unless you want to go back to cave dwelling and carrier pigeons and flintstone mobiles.

yabba dabba daaaaaale!!



D!

Go Bears!!

Thank you! Running back to 1965 is not the answer. Increasing sources and matching to highest and best use.

The answer is providing more options, not locking us into a course to protect certain people.

babbalooooooooooooooooooooo.........

- UF

pro ecclesia, pro javelina
J.R.
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Adriacus Peratuun said:

FLBear5630 said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

FLBear5630 said:

Adriacus Peratuun said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.


Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.



You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...




Right Fecal Boy. Your claim of victory is hollow nothingness.

Oil usage is effectively stable (with a slight drop recently) and has been since bouncing back from the pandemic.

On the other hand electrical usage is rising at least 4% annually and your answer to gasoline pricing is to increase electrical usage (a locally priced energy source). And to do it in a way that basically has zero impact on oil prices since they are a global commodity. A million new electrical cars in the USA has minimal impact on global oil consumption.

Oil prices depend on two items…,,and only two items absent a global shutdown…….production levels and deliverability. Not usage. In the vast majority of situations, usage is a given.

Do solutions exist to minimize oil price spikes caused by production drops or deliverability freezes? Yes. The world could increase oil storage by 25,000%. That endeavor might deliver the ability to soften peaks for six months. It would also bankrupt most governments.

Building electrical cars is a faux panacea. Real Fixes…..drilling, pipelines, refining capability. And ending the ability of one rogue regime to shut down deliverability for a large chunk of global production.

But reality doesn't align with your agenda so you bluster.

adults in the room (since March 2026):

global oil production has dropped by 8.2 million barrels per day
global oil consumption has dropped by 2.6 million barrels per day
fight price increase by increasing global production
increase production by drilling and opening waterways

FloridaBoy:

throw tantrum
f Trump
stomp feet



partially correct. Global Oil is based on 2 things , but not the thing you stated. It is real simple. Global Oil demand is based solely on supply and demand, globally.
ron.reagan
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Trump has done one good thing. Closed the borders. Everything else has been a complete disaster.
OffshoreBear
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FLBear5630 said:

william said:

we need more more energy from more energy sources.....

- UF

.........not a zero sum game.

unless you want to go back to cave dwelling and carrier pigeons and flintstone mobiles.

yabba dabba daaaaaale!!



D!

Go Bears!!

Thank you! Running back to 1965 is not the answer. Increasing sources and matching to highest and best use.

The answer is providing more options, not locking us into a course to protect certain people.
That's what republicans are doing. Democrats want to get rid of oil.
I came for the rumors, stayed for the overreactions.
OffshoreBear
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ron.reagan said:

Trump has done one good thing. Closed the borders. Everything else has been a complete disaster.
so other countries paying more into NATO for defense is a bad thing?

No taxes on tips, OT, SS is a bad thing?

Lowering crime and drugs use is a bad thing?

Lowering prescription drugs is a bad thing?

Removing a dictator in Venezuela is a bad thing?

Removing the ayatollah who was committed on destroying the USA and building a nuke was a bad thing?

List goes on and on.
I came for the rumors, stayed for the overreactions.
drahthaar
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When the "greens" figure a way to run the combines harvesting grains in Iowa and Minnesota, then we'll know they have succeeded in reducing the "demand for fossil fuels.
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One of the best things coming online this decade is better energy storage that isn't as toxic as what we use now. Improving energy storage to faster charging, more capacity, and longer lifespan will be a key to making buildings and vehicles more efficient in energy use.
Energy production will still need to increase dramatically to keep up with demand, both better storage will make it much more doable.

Energy storage plus smaller and much safer nuclear power production will be most important in the near future. Solar and wind are helpful, but not scalable to the amount needed.
Oil has been very, very good to us, but it is needed more and more for materials production. Hydrocarbons will remain a major commodity even if their usage for power slowly goes down over the next century.
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