OffshoreBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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william said:

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we need more more energy from more energy sources.....

- UF

.........not a zero sum game.

unless you want to go back to cave dwelling and carrier pigeons and flintstone mobiles.

yabba dabba daaaaaale!!



D!

Go Bears!!

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Thank you! Running back to 1965 is not the answer. Increasing sources and matching to highest and best use.

The answer is providing more options, not locking us into a course to protect certain people.

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That's what republicans are doing. Democrats want to get rid of oil.

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Geez, both the GOP and the Dems want to develop alternate energy, not relying on oil. That is a fact. The difference is how to get there. The Dems wanted cold turkey, which was insane. But the idea of developing other forms of energy is not insane.

The GOP is doing the same thing, they want to wean us off oil. Who do you think the biggest investors in alternate forms of energy are? They are not whacky far left companies. They are very conservative and know that we have to get there for THEIR survival.

5 Best Renewable Energy Stocks for 2026 and How to Invest | The Motley Fool

Let's talk fusion, far left whacky dream?

6 Best Fusion Energy Stocks for 2026 and How to Invest | The Motley Fool




Look at #5... How about #2? I keep saying, they are the same. Both sides. The political crap is simply to get the sheep going in the right direction so they have the power. The goals are the same, even same companies. But idiots like Jackson buy into it and go along Baaing...

Trump is investing in the same technology as AOC is pushing!

Who do you think owns all those wind turbines you guys say are money losers? In eastern COL, it is Florida Power and Light. Look into who owns the ones in West Texas. They are all the same.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

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Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

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Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

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You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

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You've packed a lot in there. The original question is related to efforts by Dems to reduce gas prices.

I guess you don't like the answer.

My regret is I'm not as smart as you. That being said renewable energy and EVs is new technology that is gaining traction. It's estimated that EVs have reduced oil consumption by 2 million barrels per day. That's not spit. I see it as a national security issue. You probably are ok with us bombing ME countries to keep the oil flowing.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

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Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

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Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

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You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You've packed a lot in there. The original question is related to efforts by Dems to reduce gas prices.

I guess you don't like the answer.

My regret is I'm not as smart as you. That being said renewable energy and EVs is new technology that is gaining traction. It's estimated that EVs have reduced oil consumption by 2 million barrels per day. That's not spit. I see it as a national security issue. You probably are ok with us bombing ME countries to keep the oil flowing.

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So zero answers to specific questions. Got it. Assume you have none.

Any usage savings created by renewables is outstripped by increased overall usage. So renewables are simply tampering the (growth) needs not reducing them. No amount of renewable usage in the USA will totally offset increased hydrocarbon usage in developing countries. Math is brutal. The foregoing reality is why securing Venezuelan oil is huge.

Iran's oil is not a national security threat. Iran's nuclear program is not currently a security threat. Iran's position as the largest state sponsor of terrorism (by a huge margin) is undeniably a national security threat. The policy of viewing threats to US nationals traveling abroad as a direct threat to the country as a whole has been entrenched since the Barbary pirates. If anyone needs to worry about Iranian oil and nukes it is Europe. But they are too busy fighting internal battles to look at the horizon. Europe can yell at Trump all they want, but at the end of the day they are (as always) 100% dependent on the USA to insure their security.

GrowlTowel said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

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Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

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Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

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Anything mentioning green energy is nominated for dumbest post of the year in a discussion about energy costs.

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Exactly. Look at the result of New York, and Massachusetts not allowing pipelines carrying natural gas into their states thus cutting off that source of power. Their attempted reliance on wind and solar and other green energy forced the electricity prices of the folks much higher than the national average as they cut off lower cost alternatives.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

---

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

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Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

---

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You've packed a lot in there. The original question is related to efforts by Dems to reduce gas prices.

I guess you don't like the answer.

My regret is I'm not as smart as you. That being said renewable energy and EVs is new technology that is gaining traction. It's estimated that EVs have reduced oil consumption by 2 million barrels per day. That's not spit. I see it as a national security issue. You probably are ok with us bombing ME countries to keep the oil flowing.

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So zero answers to specific questions. Got it. Assume you have none.

Any usage savings created by renewables is outstripped by increased overall usage. So renewables are simply tampering the (growth) needs not reducing them. No amount of renewable usage in the USA will totally offset increased hydrocarbon usage in developing countries. Math is brutal. The foregoing reality is why securing Venezuelan oil is huge.

Iran's oil is not a national security threat. Iran's nuclear program is not currently a security threat. Iran's position as the largest state sponsor of terrorism (by a huge margin) is undeniably a national security threat. The policy of viewing threats to US nationals traveling abroad as a direct threat to the country as a whole has been entrenched since the Barbary pirates. If anyone needs to worry about Iranian oil and nukes it is Europe. But they are too busy fighting internal battles to look at the horizon. Europe can yell at Trump all they want, but at the end of the day they are (as always) 100% dependent on the USA to insure their security.

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I didn't owe you an answer to any of your points. We are talking about policies put forward by Dems to lower gas prices.

There's no requirement that you agree with what Dems have done. Whomever said there were "none." There are times when o have more availability to give details.

This isn't of those times. End of month and six weeks to end of year for me.

"We are talking about policies put forward by Dems to lower gas prices."

At this point there have been no such policies presented here with citation.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

---

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

---

Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

---

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You've packed a lot in there. The original question is related to efforts by Dems to reduce gas prices.

I guess you don't like the answer.

My regret is I'm not as smart as you. That being said renewable energy and EVs is new technology that is gaining traction. It's estimated that EVs have reduced oil consumption by 2 million barrels per day. That's not spit. I see it as a national security issue. You probably are ok with us bombing ME countries to keep the oil flowing.

---

So zero answers to specific questions. Got it. Assume you have none.

Any usage savings created by renewables is outstripped by increased overall usage. So renewables are simply tampering the (growth) needs not reducing them. No amount of renewable usage in the USA will totally offset increased hydrocarbon usage in developing countries. Math is brutal. The foregoing reality is why securing Venezuelan oil is huge.

Iran's oil is not a national security threat. Iran's nuclear program is not currently a security threat. Iran's position as the largest state sponsor of terrorism (by a huge margin) is undeniably a national security threat. The policy of viewing threats to US nationals traveling abroad as a direct threat to the country as a whole has been entrenched since the Barbary pirates. If anyone needs to worry about Iranian oil and nukes it is Europe. But they are too busy fighting internal battles to look at the horizon. Europe can yell at Trump all they want, but at the end of the day they are (as always) 100% dependent on the USA to insure their security.

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I didn't owe you an answer to any of your points. We are talking about policies put forward by Dems to lower gas prices.

There's no requirement that you agree with what Dems have done. Whomever said there were "none." There are times when o have more availability to give details.

This isn't of those times. End of month and six weeks to end of year for me.

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And you still refuse to demonstrate how EVs have impacted oil pricing. Hint: they have not. Oil is a global commodity subject to global demand. When developing country demand exceeds EV usage impact there is no price impact. You refuse to acknowledge that 96-97% of current usage never changes absent a global event. You are arguing that you can bail out the Pacific Ocean with a thimble. We laugh at you.

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You must have a social studies degree. The rest of us know that even though oil is a global commodity, the market price is set by demand. The more EVs replacing gas cars the less demand for oil.

The Arab states clearly see that renewable energy is a threat to fossil fuel demand.

EatMoreSalmon said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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OffshoreBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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william said:

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we need more more energy from more energy sources.....

- UF

.........not a zero sum game.

unless you want to go back to cave dwelling and carrier pigeons and flintstone mobiles.

yabba dabba daaaaaale!!



D!

Go Bears!!

---

Thank you! Running back to 1965 is not the answer. Increasing sources and matching to highest and best use.

The answer is providing more options, not locking us into a course to protect certain people.

---

That's what republicans are doing. Democrats want to get rid of oil.

---

Geez, both the GOP and the Dems want to develop alternate energy, not relying on oil. That is a fact. The difference is how to get there. The Dems wanted cold turkey, which was insane. But the idea of developing other forms of energy is not insane.

The GOP is doing the same thing, they want to wean us off oil. Who do you think the biggest investors in alternate forms of energy are? They are not whacky far left companies. They are very conservative and know that we have to get there for THEIR survival.

5 Best Renewable Energy Stocks for 2026 and How to Invest | The Motley Fool

Let's talk fusion, far left whacky dream?

6 Best Fusion Energy Stocks for 2026 and How to Invest | The Motley Fool




Look at #5... How about #2? I keep saying, they are the same. Both sides. The political crap is simply to get the sheep going in the right direction so they have the power. The goals are the same, even same companies. But idiots like Jackson buy into it and go along Baaing...

Trump is investing in the same technology as AOC is pushing!

Who do you think owns all those wind turbines you guys say are money losers? In eastern COL, it is Florida Power and Light. Look into who owns the ones in West Texas. They are all the same.

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Wind is a stop gap that will prove more harmful than good if kept in large scale. It's ok as a stop gap, but it should be in decline quite soon as other better alternatives come online. We are very late in getting new nuclear up and going.

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It is an option that complements other forms of energy. There are locations where it makes sense, just like geothermal and tidal. Everywhere? No. Only solution? No.

We need energy options. All developed and used as part of a system, not one commodity that dictates whether our economy lives or dies. Oil? Of course it is part of a bigger equation and will never go away as it provides the best value and product for some uses. I want to see fusion, geo, hydrogen and even kinetic be explored more.

But, if we remain slaves to the whims of one person, we will not develop. We made the mistake with Edison, I would hope we would learn.

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

---

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

---

Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

---

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You've packed a lot in there. The original question is related to efforts by Dems to reduce gas prices.

I guess you don't like the answer.

My regret is I'm not as smart as you. That being said renewable energy and EVs is new technology that is gaining traction. It's estimated that EVs have reduced oil consumption by 2 million barrels per day. That's not spit. I see it as a national security issue. You probably are ok with us bombing ME countries to keep the oil flowing.

---

So zero answers to specific questions. Got it. Assume you have none.

Any usage savings created by renewables is outstripped by increased overall usage. So renewables are simply tampering the (growth) needs not reducing them. No amount of renewable usage in the USA will totally offset increased hydrocarbon usage in developing countries. Math is brutal. The foregoing reality is why securing Venezuelan oil is huge.

Iran's oil is not a national security threat. Iran's nuclear program is not currently a security threat. Iran's position as the largest state sponsor of terrorism (by a huge margin) is undeniably a national security threat. The policy of viewing threats to US nationals traveling abroad as a direct threat to the country as a whole has been entrenched since the Barbary pirates. If anyone needs to worry about Iranian oil and nukes it is Europe. But they are too busy fighting internal battles to look at the horizon. Europe can yell at Trump all they want, but at the end of the day they are (as always) 100% dependent on the USA to insure their security.

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I didn't owe you an answer to any of your points. We are talking about policies put forward by Dems to lower gas prices.

There's no requirement that you agree with what Dems have done. Whomever said there were "none." There are times when o have more availability to give details.

This isn't of those times. End of month and six weeks to end of year for me.

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And you still refuse to demonstrate how EVs have impacted oil pricing. Hint: they have not. Oil is a global commodity subject to global demand. When developing country demand exceeds EV usage impact there is no price impact. You refuse to acknowledge that 96-97% of current usage never changes absent a global event. You are arguing that you can bail out the Pacific Ocean with a thimble. We laugh at you.

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You must have a social studies degree. The rest of us know that even though oil is a global commodity, the market price is set by demand. The more EVs replacing gas cars the less demand for oil.

The Arab states clearly see that renewable energy is a threat to fossil fuel demand.

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Speaking from personal experience, I have an MBA with a concentration in Accounting, and I have worked directly for Energy companies for 18 years, with another 5 in companies providing supplies to Oil & Gas companies. So I believe I can speak from a credible position about oil prices and energy planning.

The plain fact up to now, is that no alternative fuel has reached a market share significant enough to affect oil prices to any great degree. EVs have reached a point where they represent 7.4% of all new US passenger vehicles,

What Is the Percentage of Electric Cars in the U.S.?


but only about 1.75% percent of all passenger vehicles in use in the United States.


What Percentage of People Own Electric Cars in the United States River Cities Running Board


That does not touch business and industrial vehicles, of course. The number there is harder to track, but is commonly just noted as 'well below one percent'.

EV market for US commercial fleets far from mature | Global Fleet



Oil prices are of course driven by demand, and basically that comes down to what the fuel is used for. Kind of why we discuss diesel fuel separately from the normal 87-octane car and SUV gas.

EVs matter in long-term planning, but they are in no way a major consideration of gasoline prices.


As for the Arab states, the idea that they are worried about EVs is laughable. The Arab states are far more concerned about fuel line integrity. trade deals with their neighbors, high public debt, inflation (especially in supply chain disruption), labor market and demographic shifts, and certainly the threat of war.

FLBear5630 said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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OffshoreBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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william said:

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we need more more energy from more energy sources.....

- UF

.........not a zero sum game.

unless you want to go back to cave dwelling and carrier pigeons and flintstone mobiles.

yabba dabba daaaaaale!!



D!

Go Bears!!

---

Thank you! Running back to 1965 is not the answer. Increasing sources and matching to highest and best use.

The answer is providing more options, not locking us into a course to protect certain people.

---

That's what republicans are doing. Democrats want to get rid of oil.

---

Geez, both the GOP and the Dems want to develop alternate energy, not relying on oil. That is a fact. The difference is how to get there. The Dems wanted cold turkey, which was insane. But the idea of developing other forms of energy is not insane.

The GOP is doing the same thing, they want to wean us off oil. Who do you think the biggest investors in alternate forms of energy are? They are not whacky far left companies. They are very conservative and know that we have to get there for THEIR survival.

5 Best Renewable Energy Stocks for 2026 and How to Invest | The Motley Fool

Let's talk fusion, far left whacky dream?

6 Best Fusion Energy Stocks for 2026 and How to Invest | The Motley Fool




Look at #5... How about #2? I keep saying, they are the same. Both sides. The political crap is simply to get the sheep going in the right direction so they have the power. The goals are the same, even same companies. But idiots like Jackson buy into it and go along Baaing...

Trump is investing in the same technology as AOC is pushing!

Who do you think owns all those wind turbines you guys say are money losers? In eastern COL, it is Florida Power and Light. Look into who owns the ones in West Texas. They are all the same.

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Wind is a stop gap that will prove more harmful than good if kept in large scale. It's ok as a stop gap, but it should be in decline quite soon as other better alternatives come online. We are very late in getting new nuclear up and going.

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It is an option that complements other forms of energy. There are locations where it makes sense, just like geothermal and tidal. Everywhere? No. Only solution? No.

We need energy options. All developed and used as part of a system, not one commodity that dictates whether our economy lives or dies. Oil? Of course it is part of a bigger equation and will never go away as it provides the best value and product for some uses. I want to see fusion, geo, hydrogen and even kinetic be explored more.

But, if we remain slaves to the whims of one person, we will not develop. We made the mistake with Edison, I would hope we would learn.

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Never said wind was the only option. Just that it will soon be seen as a bad option if it scales any more. Garnering the wind large scale will alter the environment, something we're trying to avoid, and prove one of the least reliable over time.
Lots of better options that will make more sense in more places. Wind will just become too much trouble for its return.

Economics, math, facts are Democrats' kryptonite.

Dont disagree, will move back to the middle as a niche solution. Wind tunnels if great plains and other corridors may work.

You remember the all politics are local? Well, we may see that in energy more, based on local attributes. If energy can be made profitable it will be used. If it meets a particular spec, it will be used. Politics has nothing to do with it.

My point is it is all the same- Red, Blue. It doesn't matter. They are pushing and investing in the same things. Look at Elon, he will be in the ear or Obama, Trump, Biden, or Putin. He don't care, all he wants is Tesla being profitable.

MAGA idiots keep thinking their Nationalism is real, not a way to control them. Trump is one of the biggest investors in Alternate Fuels, his company is a "must buy" stock for renewables... What does that tell you? I bet AOC is investing in Trump Media...

EatMoreSalmon said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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OffshoreBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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william said:

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we need more more energy from more energy sources.....

- UF

.........not a zero sum game.

unless you want to go back to cave dwelling and carrier pigeons and flintstone mobiles.

yabba dabba daaaaaale!!



D!

Go Bears!!

---

Thank you! Running back to 1965 is not the answer. Increasing sources and matching to highest and best use.

The answer is providing more options, not locking us into a course to protect certain people.

---

That's what republicans are doing. Democrats want to get rid of oil.

---

Geez, both the GOP and the Dems want to develop alternate energy, not relying on oil. That is a fact. The difference is how to get there. The Dems wanted cold turkey, which was insane. But the idea of developing other forms of energy is not insane.

The GOP is doing the same thing, they want to wean us off oil. Who do you think the biggest investors in alternate forms of energy are? They are not whacky far left companies. They are very conservative and know that we have to get there for THEIR survival.

5 Best Renewable Energy Stocks for 2026 and How to Invest | The Motley Fool

Let's talk fusion, far left whacky dream?

6 Best Fusion Energy Stocks for 2026 and How to Invest | The Motley Fool




Look at #5... How about #2? I keep saying, they are the same. Both sides. The political crap is simply to get the sheep going in the right direction so they have the power. The goals are the same, even same companies. But idiots like Jackson buy into it and go along Baaing...

Trump is investing in the same technology as AOC is pushing!

Who do you think owns all those wind turbines you guys say are money losers? In eastern COL, it is Florida Power and Light. Look into who owns the ones in West Texas. They are all the same.

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Wind is a stop gap that will prove more harmful than good if kept in large scale. It's ok as a stop gap, but it should be in decline quite soon as other better alternatives come online. We are very late in getting new nuclear up and going.

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Agree. Son in law works on fusion. We discuss a lot. Even fusion companies are moving more resources to fission. They need product, that works ...

Funny how folks get all up in a lather when oil producer make a lot of money based on events out of our control. Same bunch of ninny's who just loves them some cheap gasoline whilst we are underwater. My Grandaddy told me when I was a young boy..."boy, there will always be great times and terrible times, so keep the money in your back pocket as you gonna need it. Also, son, DO NOT buy toys during the good times". Find friends that have toys. Guess that is the advice you get from a true Wildcatter in the 30s.

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Funny how folks get all up in a lather when oil producer make a lot of money based on events out of our control. Same bunch of ninny's who just loves them some cheap gasoline whilst we are underwater. My Grandaddy told me when I was a young boy..."boy, there will always be great times and terrible times, so keep the money in your back pocket as you gonna need it. Also, son, DO NOT buy toys during the good times". Find friends that have toys. Guess that is the advice you get from a true Wildcatter in the 30s.

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He was right. Have a toy (boat) I wish I didn't!

FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

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Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

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Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

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You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

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You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

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As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.

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You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...

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^^^^^ What happens when the dentist drills without anesthesia........

canoso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

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Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

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Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

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You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

---

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.

---

You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...

---

^^^^^ What happens when the dentist drills without anesthesia........

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Keep cheering and voting like they want you to. Donald loves you guys...

FLBear5630 said:

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canoso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

---

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

---

Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

---

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

---

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.

---

You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...

---

^^^^^ What happens when the dentist drills without anesthesia........

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Keep cheering and voting like they want you to.

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And 98% of all democrats.

GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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canoso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

---

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

---

Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

---

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

---

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.

---

You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...

---

^^^^^ What happens when the dentist drills without anesthesia........

---

Keep cheering and voting like they want you to.

---

And 98% of all democrats.

---

Yeah, them too.

Only solution is vote policies, not Party. Mixed Government based on what they believe and said they would do. I would vote for Massie(R) and Kelly (D). Could give a rats ass what Party.

So far only exception for me is MAGA Judges. I want them gone...

FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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canoso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

---

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

---

Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

---

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

---

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.

---

You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...

---

^^^^^ What happens when the dentist drills without anesthesia........

---

Keep cheering and voting like they want you to.

---

And 98% of all democrats.

---

Yeah, them too.

Only solution is vote policies, not Party. Mixed Government based on what they believe and said they would do. I would vote for Massie(R) and Kelly (D). Could give a rats ass what Party.

So far only exception for me is MAGA Judges. I want them gone...

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my argument for a long time. Right now it seems to me that Democrats align more closely to the policies I want. However, having said that text by partisan work for infrastructure for Medicare for tax reform for immigration, reform, etc..

Waco1947 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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canoso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

---

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

---

Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

---

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

---

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.

---

You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...

---

^^^^^ What happens when the dentist drills without anesthesia........

---

Keep cheering and voting like they want you to.

---

And 98% of all democrats.

---

Yeah, them too.

Only solution is vote policies, not Party. Mixed Government based on what they believe and said they would do. I would vote for Massie(R) and Kelly (D). Could give a rats ass what Party.

So far only exception for me is MAGA Judges. I want them gone...

---

my argument for a long time. Right now it seems to me that Democrats align more closely to the policies I want. However, having said that text by partisan work for infrastructure for Medicare for tax reform for immigration, reform, etc..

---

I literally voted for a mix about equal GOP and Dem based on their positions. If Judges were put in by Jeb Bush, I voted to keep them. Trump, out. I am done with Party politics.

Just state the obvious that you are a flaming liberal lunatic. You can use less words, Wacko1947

FLBear5630 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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canoso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

---

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

---

Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

---

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

---

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.

---

You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...

---

^^^^^ What happens when the dentist drills without anesthesia........

---

Keep cheering and voting like they want you to.

---

And 98% of all democrats.

---

Yeah, them too.

Only solution is vote policies, not Party. Mixed Government based on what they believe and said they would do. I would vote for Massie(R) and Kelly (D). Could give a rats ass what Party.

So far only exception for me is MAGA Judges. I want them gone...

---

my argument for a long time. Right now it seems to me that Democrats align more closely to the policies I want. However, having said that text by partisan work for infrastructure for Medicare for tax reform for immigration, reform, etc..

---

I literally voted for a mix about equal GOP and Dem based on their positions. If Judges were put in by Jeb Bush, I voted to keep them. Trump, out. I am done with Party politics.

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Yeah, because liberal judges have done such a great job. Lol.

But seriously, if you're voting for both a liberal Democrat and a conservative Republican, what exactly do you stand for politically? Their positions on taxes, spending, immigration, the courts, and the role of government are fundamentally different. I'm all for voting for the person over the party, but at some point, your votes should reflect some consistent political principles. How do you reconcile supporting two candidates with such opposing views?

Fluanticbear is a flaming liberal

Don't let his word salads tell you differently

OffshoreBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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canoso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

---

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

---

Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

---

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

---

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.

---

You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...

---

^^^^^ What happens when the dentist drills without anesthesia........

---

Keep cheering and voting like they want you to.

---

And 98% of all democrats.

---

Yeah, them too.

Only solution is vote policies, not Party. Mixed Government based on what they believe and said they would do. I would vote for Massie(R) and Kelly (D). Could give a rats ass what Party.

So far only exception for me is MAGA Judges. I want them gone...

---

my argument for a long time. Right now it seems to me that Democrats align more closely to the policies I want. However, having said that text by partisan work for infrastructure for Medicare for tax reform for immigration, reform, etc..

---

I literally voted for a mix about equal GOP and Dem based on their positions. If Judges were put in by Jeb Bush, I voted to keep them. Trump, out. I am done with Party politics.

---

Yeah, because liberal judges have done such a great job. Lol.

But seriously, if you're voting for both a liberal Democrat and a conservative Republican, what exactly do you stand for politically? Their positions on taxes, spending, immigration, the courts, and the role of government are fundamentally different. I'm all for voting for the person over the party, but at some point, your votes should reflect some consistent political principles. How do you reconcile supporting two candidates with such opposing views?

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Tell me about the judges and what they did wrong.

Waco1947 said:

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OffshoreBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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canoso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

---

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

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Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

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You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

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You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

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As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.

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You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...

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^^^^^ What happens when the dentist drills without anesthesia........

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Keep cheering and voting like they want you to.

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And 98% of all democrats.

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Yeah, them too.

Only solution is vote policies, not Party. Mixed Government based on what they believe and said they would do. I would vote for Massie(R) and Kelly (D). Could give a rats ass what Party.

So far only exception for me is MAGA Judges. I want them gone...

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my argument for a long time. Right now it seems to me that Democrats align more closely to the policies I want. However, having said that text by partisan work for infrastructure for Medicare for tax reform for immigration, reform, etc..

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I literally voted for a mix about equal GOP and Dem based on their positions. If Judges were put in by Jeb Bush, I voted to keep them. Trump, out. I am done with Party politics.

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Yeah, because liberal judges have done such a great job. Lol.

But seriously, if you're voting for both a liberal Democrat and a conservative Republican, what exactly do you stand for politically? Their positions on taxes, spending, immigration, the courts, and the role of government are fundamentally different. I'm all for voting for the person over the party, but at some point, your votes should reflect some consistent political principles. How do you reconcile supporting two candidates with such opposing views?

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Tell me about the judges and what they did wrong.

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Waco1947 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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canoso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

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Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

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Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

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You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

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As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.

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You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...

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^^^^^ What happens when the dentist drills without anesthesia........

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Keep cheering and voting like they want you to.

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And 98% of all democrats.

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Yeah, them too.

Only solution is vote policies, not Party. Mixed Government based on what they believe and said they would do. I would vote for Massie(R) and Kelly (D). Could give a rats ass what Party.

So far only exception for me is MAGA Judges. I want them gone...

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my argument for a long time. Right now it seems to me that Democrats align more closely to the policies I want. However, having said that text by partisan work for infrastructure for Medicare for tax reform for immigration, reform, etc..

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I literally voted for a mix about equal GOP and Dem based on their positions. If Judges were put in by Jeb Bush, I voted to keep them. Trump, out. I am done with Party politics.

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Yeah, because liberal judges have done such a great job. Lol.

But seriously, if you're voting for both a liberal Democrat and a conservative Republican, what exactly do you stand for politically? Their positions on taxes, spending, immigration, the courts, and the role of government are fundamentally different. I'm all for voting for the person over the party, but at some point, your votes should reflect some consistent political principles. How do you reconcile supporting two candidates with such opposing views?

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Who said I voted for liberal judges? That is a problem, if not MAGA than liberal. What they actually believe and do means nothing.


Consistent political principles- the trap...

Seriously, let's delve into that. Look at your ballot. Your logic would hold up if we were voting for all of them for one office. If it was all Congress, all same roles, same rules, same responsibilities a constant political principle would work. But, our elections and ballots are not. They range from Federal - Senator to Local School Board to retaining Judges.

Do you really want the same consistent political principle for every position??? Local politics are very different than National. A Supreme Court Judge has different responsibilities than a State Judge. Do I want Alito passing judgement on me if I end up in Court? That is much different than do I want him interpreting the Constitution. (I know we don't elect Supreme Court Justices, just an illustration of a point).

So, I really do not understand how you can just take one constant political philosophy and apply it to the whole range of elected positions Federal, State, Judicial and Local.

Believe it or not, the people on that ballot that will impact your life the most is the County Commissioner or City Council member. The least - Federal Senator. The kid's ****** stuff being thrown out, how many of us are really going to be impacted? Sales tax, determined by County? Or Local Option Gas Tax, set by the County? Think about it.

Who is really going to impact your life? That is how I vote.

We have gone from oil companies to talking about conservative judges. lol. Wonder why the left moves the goalposts so much? Must not have much.

Flunaticbear is a professional at mental gymnastics. That is how.

But what liberal clown isn't

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We have gone from oil companies to talking about conservative judges. lol. Wonder why the left moves the goalposts so much? Must not have much.

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You guys introduced politics to the mix. I was talking alternate energy - fusion.

Although it is all connected.

OffshoreBear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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OffshoreBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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canoso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

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Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

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Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

---

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

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As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.

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You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...

---

^^^^^ What happens when the dentist drills without anesthesia........

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Keep cheering and voting like they want you to.

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And 98% of all democrats.

---

Yeah, them too.

Only solution is vote policies, not Party. Mixed Government based on what they believe and said they would do. I would vote for Massie(R) and Kelly (D). Could give a rats ass what Party.

So far only exception for me is MAGA Judges. I want them gone...

---

my argument for a long time. Right now it seems to me that Democrats align more closely to the policies I want. However, having said that text by partisan work for infrastructure for Medicare for tax reform for immigration, reform, etc..

---

I literally voted for a mix about equal GOP and Dem based on their positions. If Judges were put in by Jeb Bush, I voted to keep them. Trump, out. I am done with Party politics.

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Yeah, because liberal judges have done such a great job. Lol.

But seriously, if you're voting for both a liberal Democrat and a conservative Republican, what exactly do you stand for politically? Their positions on taxes, spending, immigration, the courts, and the role of government are fundamentally different. I'm all for voting for the person over the party, but at some point, your votes should reflect some consistent political principles. How do you reconcile supporting two candidates with such opposing views?

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Tell me about the judges and what they did wrong.

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now review for me the judges that Trump appointed that partisan

Waco1947 said:

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OffshoreBear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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OffshoreBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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canoso said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Mitch Blood Green said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Trump tells his rally that oil companies are doing great and their profits are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, the very people cheering him on are getting hammered by high gas prices and aren't benefiting one bit from those record profits. And somehow, they remain blind to the contradiction. They cheer while corporations prosper at their expense, apparently unable to recognize that the policies they support are hurting their own pocketbooks.

---

Name one, just one policy put forth by a democrat in the last 25 years that was designed to reduce gasoline prices.

---

Green Energy. (Renewable) Electric vehicles. Both would reduce our dependence on carbon fuels and drive down gas prices.

The most disturbing thing is that after 9/11, as a nation, we should have been ALL IN on reducing Middle East oil imports and consumption.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/energy-transition/china-adding-more-renewables-to-grid

---

You can't be that stupid. But maybe you can.

What powers electrical generation?
Tell us how Europe's fixation with Green policies has reduced their fuel costs.
Tell us why China's use of hydrocarbons is rising year over year.

Green policies are simply a way for stupid people to feel morally superior.

FYI……the growth of global energy consumption insures that every potential energy source will be utilized to its maximum potential. Math is brutal on the fantasies of the Left.

---

You asked for policies that they put forward. Not quality assessments of how they would do. The Dems believe it would work and they put it forward. You don't have to agree. Trump is doing aspects of the Green New Deal why do you think Musk is so involved...

You want to get into stupid policies? Maybe - Tariffing the world, going to War with Iran... There are no shortage of stupid ideas with this administration, as well.

---

As always your reading comprehension is poor. I asked nothing. I did opine on the stupidity of his answer to someone else's question.

And stop being obtuse. No one asks about policies simply to take a survey upon whether any were offered. That question (at least to any normal person) is an inquiry into workable policy.

And deflecting onto other topics is the hallmark of not having a substantive response.

Demand for electricity is double the growth in demand for total energy and exceeds growth in GDP by about 1/3.
Renewables are already the largest energy supplier by a large margin. Any person with a minimum of education understands that energy faces a demand bubble not a supply source issue. And China is the epicenter of that bubble despite sourcing energy (at a much higher percentage) from renewables than Europe or North America.

Your need to infuse your hatred of Trump into every conversation even at the expense of making blatantly false and stupid comments as the jumping off point makes folks question your sanity. Try some bran.

---

You are so full of *****.. The question was not about the workability of the Green New Deal. It was a out putting forward policies to lower gas prices. So, yes in an election year people do survey if they put out policies.

What a f-ing joke, you were discussing the inner workings of the Green New Deal! You got caught being wrong and went personal. Again...

---

^^^^^ What happens when the dentist drills without anesthesia........

---

Keep cheering and voting like they want you to.

---

And 98% of all democrats.

---

Yeah, them too.

Only solution is vote policies, not Party. Mixed Government based on what they believe and said they would do. I would vote for Massie(R) and Kelly (D). Could give a rats ass what Party.

So far only exception for me is MAGA Judges. I want them gone...

---

my argument for a long time. Right now it seems to me that Democrats align more closely to the policies I want. However, having said that text by partisan work for infrastructure for Medicare for tax reform for immigration, reform, etc..

---

I literally voted for a mix about equal GOP and Dem based on their positions. If Judges were put in by Jeb Bush, I voted to keep them. Trump, out. I am done with Party politics.

---

Yeah, because liberal judges have done such a great job. Lol.

But seriously, if you're voting for both a liberal Democrat and a conservative Republican, what exactly do you stand for politically? Their positions on taxes, spending, immigration, the courts, and the role of government are fundamentally different. I'm all for voting for the person over the party, but at some point, your votes should reflect some consistent political principles. How do you reconcile supporting two candidates with such opposing views?

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Tell me about the judges and what they did wrong.

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now review for me the judges that Trump appointed that partisan

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Can you on your own come up with any reprimands for them? That would be the way to handle that. If you cannot, then you either aren't trying or there aren't any to find. Which is it?

The most accurate answer is one publicly confirmed Trump appointee, Joshua Kindred, with the total including confidential reprimands unknown.