Tommy Nelson - Denton Bible sermon on election

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Great sermon -

3ptSpecialist
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looking forward to listening to this- a big believer in podcasts on double speed. Just loaded it up.
PTGHUNTER
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I was misled. This message was not about predestination at all.



3ptSpecialist
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PTGHUNTER said:

I was misled. This message was not about predestination at all.




haha- I listened to it on podcast and thought I had the wrong one. Predestination was my first thought also.

I hear conservatives say that Hillary will appoint 3 supreme court justices if elected. Obviously Scalia and Ginsberg (83). But Clarence Thomas (68) has debunked all talk of his retirement. So it seems more likely that she will only appoint 2 at least in the next 4 years. It will definitely sway the court liberal that is obvious. But 5-4 and not 6-3 like a lot of conservatives are saying.
Cheshire Bear
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The pastor talks about the "fear of the unknown" with Trump. No, I know exactly what I'm getting. A reprehensible, almost irredeemable, foul and disgusting slimeball. Someone who has shown no tact, no conscience, no intelligence, no presidential qualities, no class, and no ability to lead with dignity. I look forward to his loss in a few weeks, and his profit loss from his businesses moving forward.



Think good ol' Bob De Niro had it spot on.

PTGHUNTER
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The post above is why I don't typically comment on political posts. It is too easy for people to get up on their high horse / soap box and start slinging insults.

If you had not stated up front who you were describing I could have read that list of qualities and to me you are describing both candidates.

For every list people can create of reasons not to vote for Trump someone can create a list of reasons not to vote for Hillary. We will not persuade each other with our lists if our minds are made up so what is the point.

I think we have two very flawed candidates. I happen to think picking the flawed candidate that will at least potentially select Supreme Court justices that will keep the court more balanced is the better choice. If you don't think that way that is your right. I am just praying more people think like me this year.








PTGHUNTER
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No matter who wins our political system is screwed up.

My two fixes that might take the States forcing it are:

1. Term Limits - We have too many senators and representatives governing by what they think will keep them in power the longest.

2. Change election laws so that viable 3rd party candidate can enter the race with chance to win. To me this means if there are 3 candidates and nobody gets 50% then you have a do over with the top two candidates. This allows people to vote for 3rd party candidate without fearing their vote is wasted because they will just pull votes from one of the two major parties.


Prairie_Bear
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PTGHUNTER said:

No matter who wins our political system is screwed up.

My two fixes that might take the States forcing it are:

1. Term Limits - We have too many senators and representatives governing by what they think will keep them in power the longest.

2. Change election laws so that viable 3rd party candidate can enter the race with chance to win. To me this means if there are 3 candidates and nobody gets 50% then you have a do over with the top two candidates. This allows people to vote for 3rd party candidate without fearing their vote is wasted because they will just pull votes from one of the two major parties.



Nice post.

Didn't watch the sermon, but the important question is was that pastor wearing a pair of Lucchese boots?

I am hoping this dumpster fire of an election will elicit real change, here is what I hope happens:
1. Rep/Senator term limits
2. Federally funded Presidential campaigns where no outside funds are allowed. This isn't 1910 anymore, for less than a pair of Jesus' theology promoting Lucchese's you can start a website and have ALL your information on there for example. So voters can learn as much or as little (those single issue topic voters out there) as they want. You don't need to take out ads in every newspaper or run constant TV ads anymore to get your message out.
3. Abolish 2 party system. Let there be 3, 4, 5 or whatever parties. I don't (and many my ilk 40 yoa and younger) care in the least what letter comes after a candidate as I am in what their stances are on a wide variety of topics.
-If we can't do that, at least let the independents (who last I read out number the D and R respectively) vote in the primary selection process. What was it like only 11% + or - even voted in the primaries? I was a registered Republican up till a few years ago after the Mitt Romney selection fiasco and am currently an independent, unfair to the majority of Americans who want nothing to do with an archaic 2 party oligarchy but are forced to enable it every cycle.

I have a few more but will keep it to the semi-politically correct statements unless/until this gets more play.

auvich
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I'm proud that he is my pastor
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