Freedom of religion is a constitutional right (not separation of church and state, which isn't in the constitution), and I don't see the problem with Christians, or any other religions that excercise this freedom, celebrating the fact that they are in a country that allows that freedom. It's the whole walk and chew gum argument, why can't you worship God and celebrate the fact that you have the right to worship God in the US? Very odd.

The Catholic said it well:

The church should not ask of her people what is not required in Scripture. So how can we ask the Koreans and Chinese and Mexicans and South Africans in our churches to pledge allegiance to a flag that is not theirs? Are we gathered under the banner of Christ or another banner? Is the church of Jesus Christ our Jewish Lord and Savior for those draped in the red, white, and blue or for those washed in the blood of the Lamb?

Who said anything about saying the pledge of allegiance while in Church ?

What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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Who said anything about saying the pledge of allegiance while in Church ?

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It's a far more common practice than you know. Obviously.

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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I think it's weird to argue against flags in churches from someone whose church plants their foreign flag on every continent on this Earth (other than Antarctica I assume) under the guise of religion no less.

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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Not at all. If I attended a church in France, I don't think I'd even notice a French flag. Why is that being proud of the country you live in is somehow a slap in the face to other countries?

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Who said anything about saying the pledge of allegiance while in Church ?

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It's a far more common practice than you know. Obviously.

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Doubt it.

Never seen it done.....and I have attended many different denominations over the years.

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bubbadog said:

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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Not at all. If I attended a church in France, I don't think I'd even notice a French flag. Why is that being proud of the country you live in is somehow a slap in the face to other countries?

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Give Jesus his due for 55 minutes and then give Caesar the rest of your week. Deal?

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bubbadog said:

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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I think it's weird to argue against flags in churches from someone whose church plants their foreign flag on every continent on this Earth (other than Antarctica I assume) under the guise of religion no less.

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Take the Catholic Church out of the equation and apply it only to Protestants. Our various Protestant denominations don't claim to be the universal church, but we do claim to be the body of Christ, in which "there is no east or west, no south or north, but one wide fellowship of love throughout the whole wide earth." If we take this doctrine and the lyrics of this hymn seriously, is it appropriate to fly a national flag in our churches, especially when our first and highest loyalty is supposed to be to Christ?

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bubbadog said:

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ATL Bear said:

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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I think it's weird to argue against flags in churches from someone whose church plants their foreign flag on every continent on this Earth (other than Antarctica I assume) under the guise of religion no less.

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Take the Catholic Church out of the equation and apply it only to Protestants. Our various Protestant denominations don't claim to be the universal church, but we do claim to be the body of Christ, in which "there is no east or west, no south or north, but one wide fellowship of love throughout the whole wide earth." If we take this doctrine and the lyrics of this hymn seriously, is it appropriate to fly a national flag in our churches, especially when our first and highest loyalty is supposed to be to Christ?

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I'm sure there are protestant churches in Europe that fly their country's flag, South America ditto, Africa ditto, Asia ditto, etc. etc. That's a local church decision. If all Baptist churches in the world flew the American flag, it would appear to be putting a nation in front of God, hence my jab at the Catholic avenger in the thread. Hanging your resident nations flag would appear to be a very minor issue. You can keep God above country (and loyalty to Christ) and still have your local flag in the sanctuary or church building. But when you go to God and Christ through another entity, I could see where man or country could get in the way of your "loyalty".

And I don't want to start a debate with the resident Catholics, I only bring it up as perspective to those Catholics arguing against a nations flag being in a church.

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bubbadog said:

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bubbadog said:

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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I think it's weird to argue against flags in churches from someone whose church plants their foreign flag on every continent on this Earth (other than Antarctica I assume) under the guise of religion no less.

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Take the Catholic Church out of the equation and apply it only to Protestants. Our various Protestant denominations don't claim to be the universal church, but we do claim to be the body of Christ, in which "there is no east or west, no south or north, but one wide fellowship of love throughout the whole wide earth." If we take this doctrine and the lyrics of this hymn seriously, is it appropriate to fly a national flag in our churches, especially when our first and highest loyalty is supposed to be to Christ?

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I'm sure there are protestant churches in Europe that fly their country's flag, South America ditto, Africa ditto, Asia ditto, etc. etc. That's a local church decision. If all Baptist churches in the world flew the American flag, it would appear to be putting a nation in front of God, hence my jab at the Catholic avenger in the thread. Hanging your resident nations flag would appear to be a very minor issue. You can keep God above country (and loyalty to Christ) and still have your local flag in the sanctuary or church building. But when you go to God and Christ through another entity, I could see where man or country could get in the way of your "loyalty".

And I don't want to start a debate with the resident Catholics, I only bring it up as perspective to those Catholics arguing against a nations flag being in a church.

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Sure there are other Protestant churches in Europe that do this. Go to just about any Anglican Church in Britain and you can see not only national flags but regimental colors from military units; they take it several steps farther than most US churches. But that doesn't really change the question of whether it's right.

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bubbadog said:

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ATL Bear said:

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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I think it's weird to argue against flags in churches from someone whose church plants their foreign flag on every continent on this Earth (other than Antarctica I assume) under the guise of religion no less.

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Take the Catholic Church out of the equation and apply it only to Protestants. Our various Protestant denominations don't claim to be the universal church, but we do claim to be the body of Christ, in which "there is no east or west, no south or north, but one wide fellowship of love throughout the whole wide earth." If we take this doctrine and the lyrics of this hymn seriously, is it appropriate to fly a national flag in our churches, especially when our first and highest loyalty is supposed to be to Christ?

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I'm sure there are protestant churches in Europe that fly their country's flag, South America ditto, Africa ditto, Asia ditto, etc. etc. That's a local church decision. If all Baptist churches in the world flew the American flag, it would appear to be putting a nation in front of God, hence my jab at the Catholic avenger in the thread. Hanging your resident nations flag would appear to be a very minor issue. You can keep God above country (and loyalty to Christ) and still have your local flag in the sanctuary or church building. But when you go to God and Christ through another entity, I could see where man or country could get in the way of your "loyalty".

And I don't want to start a debate with the resident Catholics, I only bring it up as perspective to those Catholics arguing against a nations flag being in a church.

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Sure there are other Protestant churches in Europe that do this. Go to just about any Anglican Church in Britain and you can see not only national flags but regimental colors from military units; they take it several steps farther than most US churches. But that doesn't really change the question of whether it's right.

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I don't know if it's "right", but it's not wrong.

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And I don't want to start a debate with the resident Catholics, I only bring it up as perspective to those Catholics arguing against a nations flag being in a church.

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Not sure if the "Catholic avenger" was your moniker for me, but I kinda like it. Even if it was a knock against me or my faith.

For the record, I don't either of the Catholics on here see an major issue with a flag in the sanctuary.

I feel the the Knights of Columbus in my parish have bigger fish to fry. (Pun intended.)

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bubbadog said:

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ATL Bear said:

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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I think it's weird to argue against flags in churches from someone whose church plants their foreign flag on every continent on this Earth (other than Antarctica I assume) under the guise of religion no less.

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Take the Catholic Church out of the equation and apply it only to Protestants. Our various Protestant denominations don't claim to be the universal church, but we do claim to be the body of Christ, in which "there is no east or west, no south or north, but one wide fellowship of love throughout the whole wide earth." If we take this doctrine and the lyrics of this hymn seriously, is it appropriate to fly a national flag in our churches, especially when our first and highest loyalty is supposed to be to Christ?

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I'm sure there are protestant churches in Europe that fly their country's flag, South America ditto, Africa ditto, Asia ditto, etc. etc. That's a local church decision. If all Baptist churches in the world flew the American flag, it would appear to be putting a nation in front of God, hence my jab at the Catholic avenger in the thread. Hanging your resident nations flag would appear to be a very minor issue. You can keep God above country (and loyalty to Christ) and still have your local flag in the sanctuary or church building. But when you go to God and Christ through another entity, I could see where man or country could get in the way of your "loyalty".

And I don't want to start a debate with the resident Catholics, I only bring it up as perspective to those Catholics arguing against a nations flag being in a church.

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A lifelong Catholic here....and in every Church I have ever attended ....has had an American flag near the alter.

Wouldn't want it any other way.

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That's totally fine.

What denomination is the Church ?

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Presby.

Very cool.

Lots of history.

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bubbadog said:

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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I think it's weird to argue against flags in churches from someone whose church plants their foreign flag on every continent on this Earth (other than Antarctica I assume) under the guise of religion no less.

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Take the Catholic Church out of the equation and apply it only to Protestants. Our various Protestant denominations don't claim to be the universal church, but we do claim to be the body of Christ, in which "there is no east or west, no south or north, but one wide fellowship of love throughout the whole wide earth." If we take this doctrine and the lyrics of this hymn seriously, is it appropriate to fly a national flag in our churches, especially when our first and highest loyalty is supposed to be to Christ?

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I'm sure there are protestant churches in Europe that fly their country's flag, South America ditto, Africa ditto, Asia ditto, etc. etc. That's a local church decision. If all Baptist churches in the world flew the American flag, it would appear to be putting a nation in front of God, hence my jab at the Catholic avenger in the thread. Hanging your resident nations flag would appear to be a very minor issue. You can keep God above country (and loyalty to Christ) and still have your local flag in the sanctuary or church building. But when you go to God and Christ through another entity, I could see where man or country could get in the way of your "loyalty".

And I don't want to start a debate with the resident Catholics, I only bring it up as perspective to those Catholics arguing against a nations flag being in a church.

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I don't know any Catholic who has a problem with it.

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bubbadog said:

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ATL Bear said:

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bubbadog said:

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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I think it's weird to argue against flags in churches from someone whose church plants their foreign flag on every continent on this Earth (other than Antarctica I assume) under the guise of religion no less.

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Take the Catholic Church out of the equation and apply it only to Protestants. Our various Protestant denominations don't claim to be the universal church, but we do claim to be the body of Christ, in which "there is no east or west, no south or north, but one wide fellowship of love throughout the whole wide earth." If we take this doctrine and the lyrics of this hymn seriously, is it appropriate to fly a national flag in our churches, especially when our first and highest loyalty is supposed to be to Christ?

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I'm sure there are protestant churches in Europe that fly their country's flag, South America ditto, Africa ditto, Asia ditto, etc. etc. That's a local church decision. If all Baptist churches in the world flew the American flag, it would appear to be putting a nation in front of God, hence my jab at the Catholic avenger in the thread. Hanging your resident nations flag would appear to be a very minor issue. You can keep God above country (and loyalty to Christ) and still have your local flag in the sanctuary or church building. But when you go to God and Christ through another entity, I could see where man or country could get in the way of your "loyalty".

And I don't want to start a debate with the resident Catholics, I only bring it up as perspective to those Catholics arguing against a nations flag being in a church.

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A lifelong Catholic here....and in every Church I have ever attended ....has had an American flag near the alter.

Wouldn't want it any other way.

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Aren't you a revert to Catholicism?

Just for the record, my "Catholic avenger" moniker was targeted at the OP, as well as my other comments. Most people, Catholics and otherwise, could likely care less about the flag of their local nation flying in their building, as many of you have attested to.

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bubbadog said:

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bubbadog said:

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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I think it's weird to argue against flags in churches from someone whose church plants their foreign flag on every continent on this Earth (other than Antarctica I assume) under the guise of religion no less.

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Take the Catholic Church out of the equation and apply it only to Protestants. Our various Protestant denominations don't claim to be the universal church, but we do claim to be the body of Christ, in which "there is no east or west, no south or north, but one wide fellowship of love throughout the whole wide earth." If we take this doctrine and the lyrics of this hymn seriously, is it appropriate to fly a national flag in our churches, especially when our first and highest loyalty is supposed to be to Christ?

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I'm sure there are protestant churches in Europe that fly their country's flag, South America ditto, Africa ditto, Asia ditto, etc. etc. That's a local church decision. If all Baptist churches in the world flew the American flag, it would appear to be putting a nation in front of God, hence my jab at the Catholic avenger in the thread. Hanging your resident nations flag would appear to be a very minor issue. You can keep God above country (and loyalty to Christ) and still have your local flag in the sanctuary or church building. But when you go to God and Christ through another entity, I could see where man or country could get in the way of your "loyalty".

And I don't want to start a debate with the resident Catholics, I only bring it up as perspective to those Catholics arguing against a nations flag being in a church.

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A lifelong Catholic here....and in every Church I have ever attended ....has had an American flag near the alter.

Wouldn't want it any other way.

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Aren't you a revert to Catholicism?

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No

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ATL Bear said:

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bubbadog said:

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ATL Bear said:

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What would be really weird is flying the flag of a foreign country in a US church, like say the Flag of the Holy See...

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You don't think it's a bit weird to fly a national flag in a church that proclaims itself as the body of Christ for the whole world, without respect to nationality or territory?

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I think it's weird to argue against flags in churches from someone whose church plants their foreign flag on every continent on this Earth (other than Antarctica I assume) under the guise of religion no less.

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Take the Catholic Church out of the equation and apply it only to Protestants. Our various Protestant denominations don't claim to be the universal church, but we do claim to be the body of Christ, in which "there is no east or west, no south or north, but one wide fellowship of love throughout the whole wide earth." If we take this doctrine and the lyrics of this hymn seriously, is it appropriate to fly a national flag in our churches, especially when our first and highest loyalty is supposed to be to Christ?

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I'm sure there are protestant churches in Europe that fly their country's flag, South America ditto, Africa ditto, Asia ditto, etc. etc. That's a local church decision. If all Baptist churches in the world flew the American flag, it would appear to be putting a nation in front of God, hence my jab at the Catholic avenger in the thread. Hanging your resident nations flag would appear to be a very minor issue. You can keep God above country (and loyalty to Christ) and still have your local flag in the sanctuary or church building. But when you go to God and Christ through another entity, I could see where man or country could get in the way of your "loyalty".

And I don't want to start a debate with the resident Catholics, I only bring it up as perspective to those Catholics arguing against a nations flag being in a church.

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A lifelong Catholic here....and in every Church I have ever attended ....has had an American flag near the alter.

Wouldn't want it any other way.

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Aren't you a revert to Catholicism?

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No

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You told us on BF that you left holy mother church to attend generic mega church. Remember?

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My goodness princess you are hilarious. You lie so frequently, so easily . Is it due to your sense of failure, entitlement or what ?

The only time(s) I have attended a mega church were for weddings and ( like yesterday) funerals.

They have no appeal to me whatsoever .