How can anyone believe the intelligence community?

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Doc Holliday
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How can anyone believe anything the Intel Agencies says. Clapper lied under oath, Strzok lied under oath, Comey lied under oath, Rosenstein lied under oath, Brenner lied under oath.

You have to have half a brain to believe anything they say.

We've transitioned from...."screw the Intel community for lying us into a decade long multi trillion dollar war" to "believe the Intel community at all costs, they're all honorable and amazing people"....

Granted, these are the same people that believe that your gender is based on how you feel.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
Henry Gondorff
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Yep. Just like OJ was framed by the LA PD. LOL
Doc Holliday
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OJ was guilty as hell. The LAPD isn't an intelligence agency.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
cinque
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Doc Holliday said:

OJ was guilty as hell. The LAPD isn't an intelligence agency.
Were they wrong about the Saudis who were responsible for 911? Somebody stopped a terrorist plot in Miami two weeks ago. Should we question the validity of that operation?
Canada2017
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Doc Holliday said:

How can anyone believe anything the Intel Agencies says. Clapper lied under oath, Strzok lied under oath, Comey lied under oath, Rosenstein lied under oath, Brenner lied under oath.

You have to have half a brain to believe anything they say.

We've transitioned from...."screw the Intel community for lying us into a decade long multi trillion dollar war" to "believe the Intel community at all costs, they're all honorable and amazing people"....

Granted, these are the same people that believe that your gender is based on how you feel.


Even if this is all true.....Trump should have never criticized the US intelligence community publicly after a meeting with Putin.

Extremely foolish thing to do.
Henry Gondorff
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Doc Holliday said:

OJ was guilty as hell. The LAPD isn't an intelligence agency.


Noooo? Really? OJ was not a victim of a massive conspiracy within the LA PD? His supporters sure thought he was, as did Dershowitz.... Got the same deal here, with a similar mindset and mentality of the Trump supporters.... I thought the OJ defense was BS but I must admit it has worked well for OJ and Trump!
Doc Holliday
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"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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Canada2017 said:

Doc Holliday said:

How can anyone believe anything the Intel Agencies says. Clapper lied under oath, Strzok lied under oath, Comey lied under oath, Rosenstein lied under oath, Brenner lied under oath.

You have to have half a brain to believe anything they say.

We've transitioned from...."screw the Intel community for lying us into a decade long multi trillion dollar war" to "believe the Intel community at all costs, they're all honorable and amazing people"....

Granted, these are the same people that believe that your gender is based on how you feel.


Even if this is all true.....Trump should have never criticized the US intelligence community publicly after a meeting with Putin.

Extremely foolish thing to do.


sad when an aggie is the voice of reason on a baylor board.


good post sir
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Henry Gondorff
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Doc Holliday said:


So a guy who voted for the Communist Party is tougher on Russia than Trump? Yep. Says it all.....

Also, pretty telling that Putin (and Trump) hated Barry and HRC. Yep. Barry and HRC are tougher on Russia and pushed back on Putin more than Trump. Wow. Let that sink in. HRC. Tougher. Than. Trump. Putin said Trump was his preferred candidate. Based on today's performance, he chose wisely .
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Doc Holliday said:

How can anyone believe anything the Intel Agencies says.
I believe them more often than not. Do they make mistakes? Sure
Henry Gondorff
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Doc is a blind Trumper. There were blind OJ supporters. Smearing the investigation is always the best avenue when the facts suck. And it works!
cinque
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Doc Holliday said:

How can anyone believe anything the Intel Agencies says. Clapper lied under oath, Strzok lied under oath, Comey lied under oath, Rosenstein lied under oath, Brenner lied under oath.

You have to have half a brain to believe anything they say.

We've transitioned from...."screw the Intel community for lying us into a decade long multi trillion dollar war" to "believe the Intel community at all costs, they're all honorable and amazing people"....

Granted, these are the same people that believe that your gender is based on how you feel.
Your post would be music to Putin's ears. As he said today, no one should be believed..
You're there already.
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Canada2017 said:

Doc Holliday said:

How can anyone believe anything the Intel Agencies says. Clapper lied under oath, Strzok lied under oath, Comey lied under oath, Rosenstein lied under oath, Brenner lied under oath.

You have to have half a brain to believe anything they say.

We've transitioned from...."screw the Intel community for lying us into a decade long multi trillion dollar war" to "believe the Intel community at all costs, they're all honorable and amazing people"....

Granted, these are the same people that believe that your gender is based on how you feel.


Even if this is all true.....Trump should have never criticized the US intelligence community publicly after a meeting with Putin.

Extremely foolish thing to do.


Thank you for that.
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Henry Gondorff said:

Doc is a blind Trumper. There were blind OJ supporters. Smearing the investigation is always the best avenue when the facts suck. And it works!
its why Trump and his fans scream "Fake News" at anything they dont like
I'm the English Guy
Canada2017
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Booray said:

Canada2017 said:

Doc Holliday said:

How can anyone believe anything the Intel Agencies says. Clapper lied under oath, Strzok lied under oath, Comey lied under oath, Rosenstein lied under oath, Brenner lied under oath.

You have to have half a brain to believe anything they say.

We've transitioned from...."screw the Intel community for lying us into a decade long multi trillion dollar war" to "believe the Intel community at all costs, they're all honorable and amazing people"....

Granted, these are the same people that believe that your gender is based on how you feel.


Even if this is all true.....Trump should have never criticized the US intelligence community publicly after a meeting with Putin.

Extremely foolish thing to do.


Thank you for that.


Thank you for your posts as well. They are usually a good read .
Loaded4Bear
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Agree. It is almost comical that the Liberal Left in this country is much more of a threat to our President and our freedom than the Vlad Putins and Kim Jong Uns of the world will ever be. (And for the record, I think President Donald Trump is an *******. )
"It it ain't broke, get a bigger hammer!"
Mitch Blood Green
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Canada2017 said:

Doc Holliday said:

How can anyone believe anything the Intel Agencies says. Clapper lied under oath, Strzok lied under oath, Comey lied under oath, Rosenstein lied under oath, Brenner lied under oath.

You have to have half a brain to believe anything they say.

We've transitioned from...."screw the Intel community for lying us into a decade long multi trillion dollar war" to "believe the Intel community at all costs, they're all honorable and amazing people"....

Granted, these are the same people that believe that your gender is based on how you feel.


Even if this is all true.....Trump should have never criticized the US intelligence community publicly after a meeting with Putin.

Extremely foolish thing to do.


Awesome post. Welcome to the dark side.
Mitch Blood Green
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If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell
Doc Holliday
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Henry Gondorff said:

Doc Holliday said:


So a guy who voted for the Communist Party is tougher on Russia than Trump? Yep. Says it all.....

Also, pretty telling that Putin (and Trump) hated Barry and HRC. Yep. Barry and HRC are tougher on Russia and pushed back on Putin more than Trump. Wow. Let that sink in. HRC. Tougher. Than. Trump. Putin said Trump was his preferred candidate. Based on today's performance, he chose wisely .
Still waiting for someone to explain to me how having one meeting is worse than giving $1.7 billion in cash to Iran
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
Doc Holliday
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Henry Gondorff said:

Doc is a blind Trumper. There were blind OJ supporters. Smearing the investigation is always the best avenue when the facts suck. And it works!
Im not a blind supporter.

I've posted facts about a huge conflict of interest within Muellers investigation and it goes ignored.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
Doc Holliday
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You guys are just MSM puppets. You should be ashamed.

Do some research! Don't take their words and regurgitate.

Do you not remember the recent CIA spy scandal?

Quote:


The CIA's admission that it broke into Senate computers and spied on Intelligence Committee staffers has created a firestorm for the spy agency, with some calling for change at the top. The scandal has stirred fresh doubts about Director John Brennan's ability to lead the CIA

https://archive.fo/TJTm8#selection-2045.0-2045.185
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
J.R.
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I believe our Intelligence folks everyday over Trumps who is know daily liar. Our folks aren't perfect and make mistakes, but they are not subversive and untrustworthy like Trumps is. Trumps is about Trumps, nothing else.
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Henry Gondorff said:

Doc Holliday said:


So a guy who voted for the Communist Party is tougher on Russia than Trump? Yep. Says it all.....

Also, pretty telling that Putin (and Trump) hated Barry and HRC. Yep. Barry and HRC are tougher on Russia and pushed back on Putin more than Trump. Wow. Let that sink in. HRC. Tougher. Than. Trump. Putin said Trump was his preferred candidate. Based on today's performance, he chose wisely .
What exactly has Brennan done that is so tough. Specific examples please.

Yes, Obama the guy who promised more flexibility and looked the other way why he knew Russia was trying to impact our election was tougher on Russia. Give me a fcking break.

Trump is a moron a lot of the time and he is not perfect, but he has supplied arms and supported countries that are in conflict with Russia and he is currently trying to get Germany to stop buying oil products from Russia, which would have a major impact on the Russian economy. According to Cinque, the harshest thing Obama ever did was cancel a meeting last minute. Certainly before the 2016 election, that was the harshest thing he ever did. It's almost as if he thought any Russia interference would help his party, so he willingly looked the other way.
Doc Holliday
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J.R. said:

I believe our Intelligence folks everyday over Trumps who is know daily liar. Our folks aren't perfect and make mistakes, but they are not subversive and untrustworthy like Trumps is. Trumps is about Trumps, nothing else.
You shouldn't. It's clear as day that they tried to stop him from being president.
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." ~ John Adams
Johnny Bear
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Doc Holliday said:

J.R. said:

I believe our Intelligence folks everyday over Trumps who is know daily liar. Our folks aren't perfect and make mistakes, but they are not subversive and untrustworthy like Trumps is. Trumps is about Trumps, nothing else.
You shouldn't. It's clear as day that they tried to stop him from being president.
There you go, trying to reason with a lib democrat like J.R. again. I respect the attempt, but it's pointless.
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Question in 2016: Will Trump Win The Election?

Answer From The American Intelligence Community: No, no, we'll stop him.
J.R.
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Johnny Bear said:

Doc Holliday said:

J.R. said:

I believe our Intelligence folks everyday over Trumps who is know daily liar. Our folks aren't perfect and make mistakes, but they are not subversive and untrustworthy like Trumps is. Trumps is about Trumps, nothing else.
You shouldn't. It's clear as day that they tried to stop him from being president.
There you go, trying to reason with a lib democrat like J.R. again. I respect the attempt, but it's pointless.
Now, little Johnny...I have told you before, I am a card carrying Independent and have never voted for a democrat in my life. I also voted for the Trumps, but have found him to be appalling. Additionally, don't really know what you mean by liberal.... I lean left on social issues and very right on physcal issues. I'd be willing to be dollars to donuts that I'm much more of a capitalist that you are.
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I have a distrust of the intelligence community going back decades.

So Doc, when I railed about domestic spying (conducted by part of the intelligence community) in post after post, where were you?

When I barked about letting intelligence be shaped by Bush policy, where were you?

And, since you brought it up, where you for the OJ trial you seem so sure about, pre-school?
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this should help your distrust

no wonder Brennan screamed like a stuck pig

57Bear
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J.R.... said:

... Trumps is about Trumps, nothing else.
What would you say about Hillary?

What would you say about Obama?
57Bear
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quash said:

I have a distrust of the intelligence community going back decades. ...
Does any elected official representing the people of the U.S. know all of the things that the CIA is doing?
J.R.
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57Bear said:

J.R.... said:

... Trumps is about Trumps, nothing else.
What would you say about Hillary?

What would you say about Obama?
They are nothing like this Megalomaniac this guy is. Those to want to further their world view, Trumps does have one. Neither is GWB to be fair. All you have to do is listen to him speak. It's all about him and his ego.
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J.R. said:

57Bear said:

J.R.... said:

... Trumps is about Trumps, nothing else.
What would you say about Hillary?

What would you say about Obama?
They are nothing like this Megalomaniac this guy is. Those to want to further their world view, Trumps does have one. Neither is GWB to be fair. All you have to do is listen to him speak. It's all about him and his ego.
If one doesn't want to further his/her world view, then one is all about himself?
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57Bear said:

quash said:

I have a distrust of the intelligence community going back decades. ...
Does any elected official representing the people of the U.S. know all of the things that the CIA is doing?

Does a 2 man shop know all the things the other guy is doing? C'mon. I don't trust them but I don't lay impossible responsibilities on any one elected official, either. I do expect them to be held accountable when shjt blows up.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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J.R. said:

I believe our Intelligence folks everyday over Trumps who is know daily liar. Our folks aren't perfect and make mistakes, but they are not subversive and untrustworthy like Trumps is. Trumps is about Trumps, nothing else.
Now who's being naive, Kay?

You can agree or disagree with what they're doing, but if you don't think the constant leaking alone is an effort to subvert the presidency, you're not paying attention.
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