Lets hope we get some good news on trade w/ the EU. Live on FoxBusiness.

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Bruin said:

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Is CNN covering this or still bloviating about the "secret tapes"..

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they are crying because the more porn hos.. the higher his approval rating LOL

just LOL

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Of course it's common knowledge that hose and blow are good for approval ratings. I think ol Slick Willy had 60% approval after Lewinskie gate. So keep it up CNN!

So the concession is that the EU will import soybeans and lng - how much? And what are we giving up?

I like the announcement, but will keep the champaign on ice until the details are clear.

Edmond Bear said:

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Booray said:

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So the concession is that the EU will import soybeans and lng - how much? And what are we giving up?

I like the announcement, but will keep the champaign on ice until the details are clear.

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You are looking at this wrong.

A few more soybean and natural gas sales is way better than the world-wide apocalypse and famine that has been predicted by MSM for a few weeks.

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Yes it would be. But that is not the question. Trump will sell this as "see how I negotiated us to a better position.
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What I am wondering, however, is whether Trump is just putting lipstick on the pig. Tell me how we will be better off than before we imposed the sanctions.

Worth noting that POTUS has crafted one other significant international agreement: the de-nuclearization of North Korea. That does not mean North Korea is denuclearized. Likewise, this announcement does not mean we have won on trade.

Johnny Bear said:

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Booray said:

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Edmond Bear said:

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Booray said:

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So the concession is that the EU will import soybeans and lng - how much? And what are we giving up?

I like the announcement, but will keep the champaign on ice until the details are clear.

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You are looking at this wrong.

A few more soybean and natural gas sales is way better than the world-wide apocalypse and famine that has been predicted by MSM for a few weeks.

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Yes it would be. But that is not the question. Trump will sell this as "see how I negotiated us to a better position.
"
What I am wondering, however, is whether Trump is just putting lipstick on the pig. Tell me how we will be better off than before we imposed the sanctions.

Worth noting that POTUS has crafted one other significant international agreement: the de-nuclearization of North Korea. That does not mean North Korea is denuclearized. Likewise, this announcement does not mean we have won on trade.

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You haters are hopeless. If Trump discovered and announced a cure for cancer, you'd be pissed at him for not curing heart disease and would then label him as a "heart patient bigot". Hopeless.

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In other words: you have no idea how much soybeans, how much lng the EU will buy and what we agreed to do in response. You have no idea whether we are in a better trade position today than we were before POTUS started negotiating.

If Trump announces an agreement you are all for it without without even knowing what is int he agreement.

I am all for more trade, particularly with the EU and our partners in this hemisphere. I assume today's announcement is positive. Great. Call me with the details and we will see how big a victory this was.

riflebear said:

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Wow - LNG. Looks like EU has decided to order some Natl Gas from US shifting from Russia. Damn Trump Russia Agent...

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Saw where UK just issued first fracking permit this week also. Things are looking up!

riflebear said:

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Booray said:

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Edmond Bear said:

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Booray said:

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So the concession is that the EU will import soybeans and lng - how much? And what are we giving up?

I like the announcement, but will keep the champaign on ice until the details are clear.

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You are looking at this wrong.

A few more soybean and natural gas sales is way better than the world-wide apocalypse and famine that has been predicted by MSM for a few weeks.

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Yes it would be. But that is not the question. Trump will sell this as "see how I negotiated us to a better position.
"
What I am wondering, however, is whether Trump is just putting lipstick on the pig. Tell me how we will be better off than before we imposed the sanctions.

Worth noting that POTUS has crafted one other significant international agreement: the de-nuclearization of North Korea. That does not mean North Korea is denuclearized. Likewise, this announcement does not mean we have won on trade.

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Doesn't matter if it's 2% or 5-40% more in trade, it's better than we had before. Both the EU rep & Trump spoke about their goal was zero tariffs especially on industrial products. The EU rep seemed positive but of course there is a lot of work to do to narrow down the details.

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It does matter because without knowing the amounts, you have no idea if it is "better than we had before."

Everybody wants 0% tariffs; its a wonderful goal. Call me when it happens.

I am not trivializing this; its a better path than we have been on. I am just leery of Trump's gamesmanship. The substance of his game is often not what it seems.

riflebear said:

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Booray said:

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riflebear said:

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Booray said:

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Edmond Bear said:

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Booray said:

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So the concession is that the EU will import soybeans and lng - how much? And what are we giving up?

I like the announcement, but will keep the champaign on ice until the details are clear.

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You are looking at this wrong.

A few more soybean and natural gas sales is way better than the world-wide apocalypse and famine that has been predicted by MSM for a few weeks.

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Yes it would be. But that is not the question. Trump will sell this as "see how I negotiated us to a better position.
"
What I am wondering, however, is whether Trump is just putting lipstick on the pig. Tell me how we will be better off than before we imposed the sanctions.

Worth noting that POTUS has crafted one other significant international agreement: the de-nuclearization of North Korea. That does not mean North Korea is denuclearized. Likewise, this announcement does not mean we have won on trade.

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Doesn't matter if it's 2% or 5-40% more in trade, it's better than we had before. Both the EU rep & Trump spoke about their goal was zero tariffs especially on industrial products. The EU rep seemed positive but of course there is a lot of work to do to narrow down the details.

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It does matter because without knowing the amounts, you have no idea if it is "better than we had before."

Everybody wants 0% tariffs; its a wonderful goal. Call me when it happens.

I am not trivializing this; its a better path than we have been on. I am just leery of Trump's gamesmanship. The substance of his game is often not what it seems.

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What has he achieved? Quantify it.

Edmond Bear said:

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Booray said:

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So the concession is that the EU will import soybeans and lng - how much? And what are we giving up?

I like the announcement, but will keep the champaign on ice until the details are clear.

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You are looking at this wrong.

A few more soybean and natural gas sales is way better than the world-wide apocalypse and famine that has been predicted by MSM for a few weeks.

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MSM 1st question after this announcement

"Mr(not President) Trump, doesn't this prove you and Putin conspired? I know this deal takes Russian oil money and gives it to USA but aren't you and Putin still close?"