Ford / Kavanaugh Facts

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Jack Bauer
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redfish961
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Buddha Bear said:

riflebear said:

fubar said:

Why don't we wait until the FBI completes its investigation until we decide what the "facts" are. That agency really is pretty good at finding such.

Or do you now want to rely on the media for your facts?


Correct. Let's wait but let's not forget they have already done SIX background checks on him.
I'm curious what that drinking game "devil's triangle is". Maybe they'll find that out.
TT grad...Raider Roulette?
riflebear
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riflebear
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So SNL chooses Matt Damon to mock Kavanaugh for being 'angry' defending himself & his family. Yet Matt Damon was cozy w/ Feinstein and here in this interview says he would fight 'scorched earth' to defend his name.

Amazing

YoakDaddy
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riflebear said:

So SNL chooses Matt Damon to mock Kavanaugh for being 'angry' defending himself & his family. Yet Matt Damon was cozy w/ Feinstein and here in this interview says he would fight 'scorched earth' to defend his name.

Amazing



I don't recall him coming to Affleck's rescue with his sexual assault allegations....
riflebear
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Interesting

whitetrash
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redfish961 said:

Buddha Bear said:

riflebear said:

fubar said:

Why don't we wait until the FBI completes its investigation until we decide what the "facts" are. That agency really is pretty good at finding such.

Or do you now want to rely on the media for your facts?


Correct. Let's wait but let's not forget they have already done SIX background checks on him.
I'm curious what that drinking game "devil's triangle is". Maybe they'll find that out.
TT grad...Raider Roulette?



The difference between Russian Roulette and Raider Roulette is that in Russian Roulette there are 5 empty chambers to one loaded. It's impossible to find 5 TT girls without the rash, so the odds are much higher.
Edmond Bear
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Jinx 2 said:

Edmond Bear said:

Jinx 2 said:

Here's a fact from jennifer Rubin's column;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/29/if-we-want-to-protect-the-supreme-courts-legitimacy-kavanaugh-should-not-be-on-it/?utm_term=.85661ac2accd

"As a Supreme Court justice, Kavanaugh would not be bound by the rules applicable to judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals with respect to recusal," says Harvard law professor Laurence H. Tribe. For lower-court judges operating under those guidelines, Tribe argues "there is a very strong argument that Kavanaugh's intemperate screed attacking liberal groups and spinning conspiracy theories when he testified on Thursday afternoon now requires him to recuse in any case where such groups appear before the Court of Appeals on which he sits." Tribe continues, "For him to remain on a three-judge panel that sits in judgment on any legal claim affecting such a group would obviously create at least the appearance of a conflict of interest and probably an actual conflict."

He explains, "It follows not from rules that wouldn't technically bind him but from the principles about which Norm Eisen, Judge [Timothy] Lewis and I wrote in our Brookings Report of September 4 about the substantive areas from which Kavanaugh would have to recuse under cases like Williams-Yulee (and from the importance of maintaining the Supreme Court's credibility as a fair arbiter of core legal questions) that Judge Kavanaugh could not credibly cast a vote or participate in any way as a Supreme Court Justice in any of the very substantial number of cases that court decides each year involving litigants, whether individuals or organizations, that Kavanaugh evidently blames for orchestrating what he sees as an outrageous attack on his integrity, his decency, and his very life as well as the life of his family."


This is an opinion. The point of this thread is to list actual facts.

It is a fact that Judge Kavanaugh has revealed himself to be too partisan to sit on the Supreme Court.

Jinx, this is also an opinion. This is multiple times that you have posted opinions as if they were fact. I'm learning that you are unable to distinguish facts from opinion which sheds light on much of what you post.



Edmond Bear
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Here is the list of facts as I can find them:

  • Ford testified that Kavanaugh attempted to rape her while he was drunk at a party
  • Kavanaugh denies he was a part of any event like Kavanaugh's allegation.
  • Ford named 4 witnesses that all deny that the party existed or cannot corroborate the statement. Although, one of these (Ford's best friend) says she believes Ford but does not remember the party.
  • Ford is unable to state how she got to the party, how she got home, or who invited her, but does remember that she only had one beer and did not take any medication
  • Ford has stated different timelines for the party including: early 80's, mid 80's, summer of 1982, said it happened in her late teens, and then later said she was 15
  • She testified that she stated in couple's therapy in 2012 that she needed to have 2 front doors to her home. But, the permit for two front doors was filed in 2008.
  • Portions of Kavanaugh's testimony did stretch the truth or present a different picture than most would consider truth. (i.e. he and Ford did not run in the same social circles but he was actually good friends with her boyfriend).
  • There are more than 60 high school and college classmates that have vouched for Kavanaugh's character and said he would never do what has been described.
  • Kavanaugh's testimony attempted to downplay his drinking but other's near him have stated this was untrue. One classmate later told CNN that "there had a to be a number of nights where he (Kavanaugh) could not remember." One of Kavanaugh's freshman roommates at Yale says Kavanaugh was 'frequently unusually drunk' and would become belligerent as a result.
  • Kavanaugh's best friend, Mark Judge, has given a sworn statement and has now been interviewed by the FBI.
  • Ford directly lied to Senator Grassley about being afraid to fly and turns out to have flied around the world.
  • Ford has struggled remembering recent details including what she shared with The Washington Post, whether she shared her therapist's notes or a summarized them for the reporter, could not remember whether she has a copy of her therapist's notes or whether she reviewed them in her therapist's office.
  • Ford cannot remember whether she was recorded by audio or video when she took a recent polygraph test.
  • Ford has refused to submit her therapist's notes to Congress
  • Diane Feinstein received a letter from Ford with her allegations this summer. She advised Ford to hire a lawyer one week before speaking one on one with Kavanaugh. During her conversation (knowing about the allegation), Feinstein did not ask any questions related to the allegation. Feinstein stated she was trying to respect Ford's request for anonymity at the time. However, Feinstein also did not try to ask related questions in a way that would protect Ford.
  • Ford's Stanford profile was changed seven times over the last 2 weeks. The net is that she has changed her title from 'Research Psychologist' to 'Affiliate, Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences.'
  • Feinstein held on to the allegation until the last possible moment before a Senate committee vote to move Kavanaugh forward.
  • Multiple Democratic Senators who originally stated that an FBI investigation of 1 week or less was acceptable (including Klobuchar, Coons, Hirono, Harris, Leahy, Whitehouse, Blumenthal, Jones, and Udall) are now attempting to greatly expand the investigation and are stating that the investigation should take more than 1 week.
Malbec
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Ford could not remember whether she took her polygraph on the day of her grandmother's funeral. Ford could not remember how she got there or what she was doing before the gathering, but "assumed" she must have been practicing her diving, because she remembered wearing her one-piece swimsuit under her clothes. She also could not recall how she got home, even though she did not drive at the time she claims the event occurred.
YoakDaddy
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Malbec said:

Ford could not remember whether she took her polygraph on the day of her grandmother's funeral. Ford could not remember how she got there or what she was doing before the gathering, but "assumed" she must have been practicing her diving, because she remembered wearing her one-piece swimsuit under her clothes. She also could not recall how she got home, even though she did not drive at the time she claims the event occurred.

According to several news sources, the polygraph test was only 2 questions....it's a testiment that she can't remember it was only 2 questions....
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/09/27/christine-blasey-ford-brett-kavanaugh-allegation-former-fbi-agent-accusers-polygraph-test
whitetrash
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YoakDaddy said:

Malbec said:

Ford could not remember whether she took her polygraph on the day of her grandmother's funeral. Ford could not remember how she got there or what she was doing before the gathering, but "assumed" she must have been practicing her diving, because she remembered wearing her one-piece swimsuit under her clothes. She also could not recall how she got home, even though she did not drive at the time she claims the event occurred.

According to several news sources, the polygraph test was only 2 questions....it's a testiment that she can't remember it was only 2 questions....
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/09/27/christine-blasey-ford-brett-kavanaugh-allegation-former-fbi-agent-accusers-polygraph-test
"Did something bad happen to you?"

"Did Brett Kavanaugh do it?"
CutTheTVoff
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Jinx 2 said:

Edmond Bear said:

Jinx 2 said:

MHere's a fact from jennifer Rubin's column;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/09/29/if-we-want-to-protect-the-supreme-courts-legitimacy-kavanaugh-should-not-be-on-it/?utm_term=.85661ac2accd

"As a Supreme Court justice, Kavanaugh would not be bound by the rules applicable to judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals with respect to recusal," says Harvard law professor Laurence H. Tribe. For lower-court judges operating under those guidelines, Tribe argues "there is a very strong argument that Kavanaugh's intemperate screed attacking liberal groups and spinning conspiracy theories when he testified on Thursday afternoon now requires him to recuse in any case where such groups appear before the Court of Appeals on which he sits." Tribe continues, "For him to remain on a three-judge panel that sits in judgment on any legal claim affecting such a group would obviously create at least the appearance of a conflict of interest and probably an actual conflict."

He explains, "It follows not from rules that wouldn't technically bind him but from the principles about which Norm Eisen, Judge [Timothy] Lewis and I wrote in our Brookings Report of September 4 about the substantive areas from which Kavanaugh would have to recuse under cases like Williams-Yulee (and from the importance of maintaining the Supreme Court's credibility as a fair arbiter of core legal questions) that Judge Kavanaugh could not credibly cast a vote or participate in any way as a Supreme Court Justice in any of the very substantial number of cases that court decides each year involving litigants, whether individuals or organizations, that Kavanaugh evidently blames for orchestrating what he sees as an outrageous attack on his integrity, his decency, and his very life as well as the life of his family."


This is an opinion. The point of this thread is to list actual facts.

It is a fact that Judge Kavanaugh has revealed himself to be too partisan to sit on the Supreme Court.
You've confused him with RBG.
 
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