Canada2017 said:

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Thank you for sharing your opinions.

With the exception of a total sociopath I knew in college ...I don't hate anyone. Least of all for expressing opions different than mine.

Yes obesity is a huge problem, yes there is divorce among Christians ( though our priest tells us it is a lower rate ) and I don't 'fear' what's happening in the United States because...

A. There is no way to stop it now
B. Have enough assets with which to insulate my family.
C. Odds are I'll be dead within 20 years anyway.


Peace be with you.

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I should have clarified, only my 1st paragraph was in response to your post, rest was just me rambling in general.

I mentioned those issues (obesity and divorce) more as evidence that we have a consumption problem in this country not limited to one party. It is a direct result of the marketing machine that drives "capitalism", in that you need MORE to be happy! You get more, and you have as big a void if not more that needs to get satiated again and so goes the machine.

Lets call a spade a spade, if you are religious make no mistake, "work" is not a reward, it is a punishment from God (Adam and Eve story from Genesis). Puritans glorified it and is now used by the elite to get us to do their work for them while they throw scraps. CEO pay 361x that of average worker, used to be around 20x.

Question for the Docs/Mikes of the world looking for the next thing to be triggered by, if everything we were doing was right, why are we so unhappy and sick as a population? Why is anti-depressant use soaring?


R2whatever, I totally agree. One of my favorite under grad papers was in "Death and Dying" class @ BU. I interviewed around 70 some seniors in a nursing home. 100% said they wished they worked less and spent more time with their family/friends. That was very telling to me and I have tried to live my life by that using our $ for experiences/relationships rather than stuff.

Prairie_Bear said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Thank you for sharing your opinions.

With the exception of a total sociopath I knew in college ...I don't hate anyone. Least of all for expressing opions different than mine.

Yes obesity is a huge problem, yes there is divorce among Christians ( though our priest tells us it is a lower rate ) and I don't 'fear' what's happening in the United States because...

A. There is no way to stop it now
B. Have enough assets with which to insulate my family.
C. Odds are I'll be dead within 20 years anyway.


Peace be with you.

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I should have clarified, only my 1st paragraph was in response to your post, rest was just me rambling in general.

I mentioned those issues (obesity and divorce) more as evidence that we have a consumption problem in this country not limited to one party. It is a direct result of the marketing machine that drives "capitalism", in that you need MORE to be happy! You get more, and you have as big a void if not more that needs to get satiated again and so goes the machine.

Lets call a spade a spade, if you are religious make no mistake, "work" is not a reward, it is a punishment from God (Adam and Eve story from Genesis). Puritans glorified it and is now used by the elite to get us to do their work for them while they throw scraps. CEO pay 361x that of average worker, used to be around 20x.

Question for the Docs/Mikes of the world looking for the next thing to be triggered by, if everything we were doing was right, why are we so unhappy and sick as a population? Why is anti-depressant use soaring?


R2whatever, I totally agree. One of my favorite under grad papers was in "Death and Dying" class @ BU. I interviewed around 70 some seniors in a nursing home. 100% said they wished they worked less and spent more time with their family/friends. That was very telling to me and I have tried to live my life by that using our $ for experiences/relationships rather than stuff.

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We're not triggered, we're just warning you about a ginormous and radical shift in politics that will usher in an era of the state controlling our lives on behalf of radical Marxists.

Do you think you're an oppressor? Because the people in charge in the very near future will take you as an oppressor.

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if everything we were doing was right, why are we so unhappy and sick as a population?

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I don't think we're doing anything right at all. I think this country got lost a long time ago.

Six days from now, we can defeat the brutal white supremacist forces of anti-Semitism, anti-immigrant nativism, and racism, We can hold accountable the cold-hearted monsters who have repeatedly attacked our health care. We can send a message to the bigots and billionaires that this country belongs to all of us. We can win if we show up on November 6. We must end Republican control of Congress and begin to reclaim our nation.

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Democrats are American ISIS.

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that is just dumb

J.R. said:

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corncob pipe said:

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Democrats are American ISIS.

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that is just dumb

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You, are a member of, American ISIS

Prairie_Bear said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Thank you for sharing your opinions.

With the exception of a total sociopath I knew in college ...I don't hate anyone. Least of all for expressing opions different than mine.

Yes obesity is a huge problem, yes there is divorce among Christians ( though our priest tells us it is a lower rate ) and I don't 'fear' what's happening in the United States because...

A. There is no way to stop it now
B. Have enough assets with which to insulate my family.
C. Odds are I'll be dead within 20 years anyway.


Peace be with you.

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Lets call a spade a spade, if you are religious make no mistake, "work" is not a reward, it is a punishment from God (Adam and Eve story from Genesis). Puritans glorified it and is now used by the elite to get us to do their work for them while they throw scraps. CEO pay 361x that of average worker, used to be around 20x.

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IMO work is a means to an end.

In my case II worked to care for my family and myself .
And to ensure I could retire at age 60...very comfortably.

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Buddha Bear said:

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Florida Mike, no one is selling us socialism. What is socialism to you? Would Medicare for all finally make us a socialist country? About 20% of our country is already on socialized medicine (conservative lingo) already. I guess we could lump our veterans in that group too (another 20 million people). So over 25% is sucking at the gov't teet.

Would expanded university funding make us socialist? Direct gov't funding is at an all time low, but individual funding is at an all time high (grants & gov't backed loans). Shifting the burden to the individual back in the 80's backfired, and ended up costing the gov't more than if they left it alone.

K through 12 is government funded, but we realize that this type of education is a right that should be afforded to all citizens in order to develop the mental capacity to function in our society.

No one is advocating for gov't control of businesses and industry, and no one ever will. Only the conservative media preaches this. It must suck to live in so much fear all the time.

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Socialism is production and distribution o goods owned and determined by centralized government

That's being openly promoted by a strong presidential candidate recently and was used by obama silently although he openly promoted it in speech if cleverly or intelligently deciphered. How can you be so naive to say "no one's selling us socialism" and obama did it? Are you another foreign Baylor grad that doesn't understand our country and it's history?

I agree with too many, including retired govt workers suc govt teet as we live in military area! Serve 20 short years and you're set for life here, BIGLY set too at $100,000+ paid by govt + tons of benefits we can't afford! They love it but it's not sustainable, Medicare too!

Govt control of anything needs inventoried by true businesspeople like Trump to find sustainable solutions. That includes govt loans and govt education

You are naive and have no clue of government intervention in private business. You can't have actual decades long experience owning businesses by saying your final paragraph above

You are the enemy of the good with your ignorance of socialism, and don't even know it

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I was a bit too harsh in that last paragraph. Government is capable of controlling business, and I've experienced it many times trying to do business in Myanmar, Indonesia and Tanzania. Nearly impossible to get around the red tape there, let alone make a profit. I just don't think the US is even close that kind of gov't control over industry. If anything, borderline monopolies have more control over industry in our country than government.

I don't advocate socialism. I think we are taxed plenty enough already. We just spend it the wrong way. Dollar for dollar, we American citizens get less from our taxes than many of our western neighbors.

Doc throwing in the towel.
Don't quit if you believe in something.
I am disappointed in you quitting.
Tuesday moves this country one step closer to John Kasich eventually being President.

Doc Holliday said:

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Prairie_Bear said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Thank you for sharing your opinions.

With the exception of a total sociopath I knew in college ...I don't hate anyone. Least of all for expressing opions different than mine.

Yes obesity is a huge problem, yes there is divorce among Christians ( though our priest tells us it is a lower rate ) and I don't 'fear' what's happening in the United States because...

A. There is no way to stop it now
B. Have enough assets with which to insulate my family.
C. Odds are I'll be dead within 20 years anyway.


Peace be with you.

---

I should have clarified, only my 1st paragraph was in response to your post, rest was just me rambling in general.

I mentioned those issues (obesity and divorce) more as evidence that we have a consumption problem in this country not limited to one party. It is a direct result of the marketing machine that drives "capitalism", in that you need MORE to be happy! You get more, and you have as big a void if not more that needs to get satiated again and so goes the machine.

Lets call a spade a spade, if you are religious make no mistake, "work" is not a reward, it is a punishment from God (Adam and Eve story from Genesis). Puritans glorified it and is now used by the elite to get us to do their work for them while they throw scraps. CEO pay 361x that of average worker, used to be around 20x.

Question for the Docs/Mikes of the world looking for the next thing to be triggered by, if everything we were doing was right, why are we so unhappy and sick as a population? Why is anti-depressant use soaring?


R2whatever, I totally agree. One of my favorite under grad papers was in "Death and Dying" class @ BU. I interviewed around 70 some seniors in a nursing home. 100% said they wished they worked less and spent more time with their family/friends. That was very telling to me and I have tried to live my life by that using our $ for experiences/relationships rather than stuff.

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We're not triggered, we're just warning you about a ginormous and radical shift in politics that will usher in an era of the state controlling our lives on behalf of radical Marxists.

Do you think you're an oppressor? Because the people in charge in the very near future will take you as an oppressor.

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if everything we were doing was right, why are we so unhappy and sick as a population?

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I don't think we're doing anything right at all. I think this country got lost a long time ago.

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We just need McCarthy 2.0

He was right and I wish he'd cleaned house

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corncob pipe said:

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Democrats are American ISIS.

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that is just dumb

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Consider the source. His gossip column lost readers and now he's bomb throwing hoping to find relevance. Florda approves, of course.

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If by Radical Left Socialist State you mean like Canada, the United Kingdom, Germany, France.....

yeah I'm down with moving that direction..... your fear of it is real funny.


we are already close to being there.... we have public education, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, SNAP....

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Norway, the holy grail of socialism that your ilk likes:

I ordered a beer in Norway and it cost $28 ****ing dollars dude.
Food is taxed 25%.
$25 dollars for a ten minute one way taxi ride.

Scandinavians have less things to buy on a personal scale, but share many public amenities.

Your house in Texas would cost well over double there...but they're non existent for the most part.
A Honda civic costs over 50k.
Those countries are not utopias. And you shouldn't give your opinion on them if you've never been there.

You think those countries are better than the U.S.?

How did the U.S. become the worlds superpower in only 250 years on capitalism and not socialism?

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The average price of a beer in Norway is $6.00. The fact (and I believe you) about paying $28 for a beer says much more about you than a nations economy.

BTW, how many foreign countries have you lived in? I have lived in 4 so far. Huge difference between being a tourist and an expat.

You may be extremely healthy (so am I) but at some point in most mens lives the cost of health care for a family can get pretty high.

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I guess that says a lot about why you can't get a Ringnes in the States anymore.

I love democratic socialism Maybe we finally confront our racism, gayism,
AND
Waco1947
Socialist Program
Many of these are quite popular too.
Examples include:
public K-12 education, which functions alongside charter schools and private K-12s;
public libraries, which function very well in an age of bookstores;
public police forces, which work alongside private detectives and private security firms;
public infrastructure like roads, bridges, water and sewer systems, making modern life as comfort-driven as it is today;
public parks, with green spaces and recreation space for all
municipal power is in many towns, akin to the TVA. My old hometown had a company run by the town, with rates about 2/3 what you'd expect from the nearby private power companies in neighboring cities and towns--also lower downtime and better service, despite more inclement weather; and
Social Security, which is socialism for seniors. Who can still work for extra money if they must, but won't be totally destitute if they don't.
Medicare helps seniors as well.

Waco1947 said:

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I love democratic socialism Maybe we finally confront our racism, gayism,
AND
Waco1947
Socialist Program
Many of these are quite popular too.
Examples include:
public K-12 education, which functions alongside charter schools and private K-12s;
public libraries, which function very well in an age of bookstores;
public police forces, which work alongside private detectives and private security firms;
public infrastructure like roads, bridges, water and sewer systems, making modern life as comfort-driven as it is today;
public parks, with green spaces and recreation space for all
municipal power is in many towns, akin to the TVA. My old hometown had a company run by the town, with rates about 2/3 what you'd expect from the nearby private power companies in neighboring cities and towns--also lower downtime and better service, despite more inclement weather; and
Social Security, which is socialism for seniors. Who can still work for extra money if they must, but won't be totally destitute if they don't.
Medicare helps seniors as well.

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^^^^^^^^^
Wow the true Waco!

Got too drunk and let his true self be exposed

Florda_mike said:

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Waco1947 said:

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I love democratic socialism Maybe we finally confront our racism, gayism,
AND
Waco1947
Socialist Program
Many of these are quite popular too.
Examples include:
public K-12 education, which functions alongside charter schools and private K-12s;
public libraries, which function very well in an age of bookstores;
public police forces, which work alongside private detectives and private security firms;
public infrastructure like roads, bridges, water and sewer systems, making modern life as comfort-driven as it is today;
public parks, with green spaces and recreation space for all
municipal power is in many towns, akin to the TVA. My old hometown had a company run by the town, with rates about 2/3 what you'd expect from the nearby private power companies in neighboring cities and towns--also lower downtime and better service, despite more inclement weather; and
Social Security, which is socialism for seniors. Who can still work for extra money if they must, but won't be totally destitute if they don't.
Medicare helps seniors as well.

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^^^^^^^^^
Wow the true Waco!

Got too drunk and let his true self be exposed

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Drunk or not which is not socialism and why or why not?

Your future:

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Your future:

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Why are militant democrat women like this one so terribly ugly???

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Doc Holliday said:

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Your future:

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Why are militant democrat women like this one so terribly ugly???

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Why are you so small minded as to care about her looks?

Florda_mike said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Your future:

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Why are militant democrat women like this one so terribly ugly???

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Do you really have to ask?

And you wonder why the gop loses the women 's vote and why you never get it on pro choice. You're clueless.

Florda_mike said:

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Waco1947 said:

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I love democratic socialism Maybe we finally confront our racism, gayism,
AND
Waco1947
Socialist Program
Many of these are quite popular too.
Examples include:
public K-12 education, which functions alongside charter schools and private K-12s;
public libraries, which function very well in an age of bookstores;
public police forces, which work alongside private detectives and private security firms;
public infrastructure like roads, bridges, water and sewer systems, making modern life as comfort-driven as it is today;
public parks, with green spaces and recreation space for all
municipal power is in many towns, akin to the TVA. My old hometown had a company run by the town, with rates about 2/3 what you'd expect from the nearby private power companies in neighboring cities and towns--also lower downtime and better service, despite more inclement weather; and
Social Security, which is socialism for seniors. Who can still work for extra money if they must, but won't be totally destitute if they don't.
Medicare helps seniors as well.

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^^^^^^^^^
Wow the true Waco!

Got too drunk and let his true self be exposed

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m and never a a cogent argument.
More democrat programs. Actually thought joy ridicule. Your sack was of silliness must be running lower or it's empty.

aco19471:37p
I don't usually post political comments . Hahahahahahaha! Just kidding!
Reasons to vote Democrat.
1) Healthcare for all. Big & Small Businesses want out of the Healthcare business. Individuals want it. We citizens want a health neighborhood and workers.
2). Dems want to keep provisions for preexistent care without penalty
3). Education - we want an educated culture, so does business.
4). Infrastructure water, sewer, bridges, roads, internet for all
5). Smart Border Security and Immigration Reform. No one wants "Open Borders." It's a stupid lie. The

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And you wonder why the gop loses the women 's vote and why you never get it on pro choice. You're clueless.

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You're humorless, and a hypocrite among other things.

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Florda_mike said:

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Your future:

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Why are militant democrat women like this one so terribly ugly???

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Why are you so small minded as to care about her looks?

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So let me get this straight? So it's "small minded" to care about her looks? Is that what you're saying? "Small minded?"

Florda_mike said:

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quash said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Your future:

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Why are militant democrat women like this one so terribly ugly???

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Why are you so small minded as to care about her looks?

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So let me get this straight? So it's "small minded" to care about her looks? Is that what you're saying? "Small minded?"

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I'm saying it's small minded of you.

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Florda_mike said:

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quash said:

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Your future:

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Why are militant democrat women like this one so terribly ugly???

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Why are you so small minded as to care about her looks?

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So let me get this straight? So it's "small minded" to care about her looks? Is that what you're saying? "Small minded?"

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I'm saying it's small minded of you.

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Ok then, define your statement please

"... radical leftist socialist state." The premise of the thread is nonsense. That has become the rallying cry against anyone who opposes this one-man clown car of a president.

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"... radical leftist socialist state." The premise of the thread is nonsense. That has become the rallying cry against anyone who opposes this one-man clown car of a president.

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You sound like someone who advocates for it.

Florda_mike said:

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quash said:

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Florda_mike said:

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quash said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Your future:

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Why are militant democrat women like this one so terribly ugly???

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Why are you so small minded as to care about her looks?

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So let me get this straight? So it's "small minded" to care about her looks? Is that what you're saying? "Small minded?"

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I'm saying it's small minded of you.

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Ok then, define your statement please

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Words get defined. Which word is confusing you?

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"... radical leftist socialist state." The premise of the thread is nonsense. That has become the rallying cry against anyone who opposes this one-man clown car of a president.

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You sound like someone who advocates for it.

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You define everybody who doesn't agree with you as the worst possible leftist. Straight up binary thinking, that is not the least bit useful in solving our real problems.

You'd have a lot more help reaching solutions if you quit tagging people with a slightly different political view as radical leftist socialists.

makers / takers................

- BUmma

The radical socialist leftists will probably unrepeal the ACA, knock down the wall Mexico paid for and let Hillary out of jail.

Not ready!!!! Looks like democrats will take house back. We are in trouble.

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Not ready!!!! Looks like democrats will take house back. We are in trouble.

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Nah

Got democrats to blame for not getting things done until 2020 instead of blaming GOPe. That makes republicans more attractive to vote for next elections and that's good for Trump too

Eight years of obstruction worked well for Republicans. We won't do that. We'll govern, investigate and mix in a little obstruction just for fun.

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Wichitabear said:

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Not ready!!!! Looks like democrats will take house back. We are in trouble.

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Nah

Got democrats to blame for not getting things done until 2020 instead of blaming GOPe. That makes republicans more attractive to vote for next elections and that's good for Trump too

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This is very likely. Although if 6 years of obstruction led to Trump. I can't wait to see the push back from the left, and then the right again 8 years later.

It could be freaky friday-esque. Boisterous political rallies by a blue candidate. Republican protesters worried about a reversal of all the "progress" Trump made, and a "return" to socialism. More promises of healthcare and prescription drug reform that will ultimately go unfulfilled. Forbes publishes an article on the first "trillionaire", while the avg US household stays steady at $56k per year.

All the while, it's just a bunch of the 50+ demographic electing extremists that refuse to compromise for fear of losing their golden ticket in government. Long gone are the days of a moderate candidate. We gotta be wholeheartedly on one side or the other until hinges break off this wild ride we call America.