Was Sexual Liberation Really Just Political Control?

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BaylorFTW
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An interesting interview with E. Michael Jones covering his book Libido Dominandi. He looks at the issue of whether sexual liberation was used as a form of control through history up to the present.

Midnight Rider
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Cliff Notes?
BaylorFTW
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The author believes that sexual liberation has been used as a tool to control people since at least the French Revolution. He talks about Wilhelm Reich and his book Mass Psychology of Fascism and shows how they were aware you could subtly influence people through sexual liberation. He felt that he could corrupt women's values simply by exposing them to seeing other people doing the thing.

He also talks of Freud and other psychologists and how this was used. He mentions other examples too like Kinsey. He also chronicles how pornography was pushed and how it was framed as a freedom debate.
He also talks of this issue in terms of the promotion of various kinds of sexual liberation thru contraception, adultery, sex before marriage, pornography, homosexuality, etc.

One example he uses of a government controlling people was with Israel where they apparently took over some television stations and started blasting pornography to the Palestinians. Since the Palestinians weren't able to go outside after dark or they would get shot, the aim appears to be to get them hooked on porn and have its other deleterious side effects weaken their resolve.

He is an ardent Catholic who sees this sexual liberation as something that has corrupted the West in various forms. His book essentially details throughout history how this took place. In this video interview, he hits the highlights and answers some questions from the interviewer.
Midnight Rider
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So if I like to get laid that means that the government is controlling me?
BaylorFTW
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Midnight Rider said:

So if I like to get laid that means that the government is controlling me?
Not by itself. But they might take advantage of that fact to try to get you to become a slave to the flesh and thus be more controllable. For example, Bill Clinton because of his love for fornication and adultery, was one who could be manipulated and controlled more easily by others. You could also make a similar claim for Trump with the Stormy Daniels affair.
Golem
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Midnight Rider said:

So if I like to get laid that means that the government is controlling me?


Whatever the case, you certainly butt fcked that synopsis.
Midnight Rider
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GolemIII said:

Midnight Rider said:

So if I like to get laid that means that the government is controlling me?


Whatever the case, you certainly butt fcked that synopsis.
Uh, please refer to the thread title.
Midnight Rider
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I'm still not sure what FTW is getting at here. The thread title seems to suggest some sort of delusional paranoia that sexual liberation is an effort by the government to control us.

Maybe that's not what he is getting at, but that is what the thread title seems to suggest.

But, if by "political control" FTW is not talking about the government but is talking about sexual politics between an individual man and an individual woman, he might be onto something. That's a non-delusional, non-paranoid topic, certainly worth discussing.

So, FTW, what form of "political control" are you talking about here?

william
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Mitch Blood Green
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I knew Bel Biv Devoe worked for the government. They almost had me fooled with all the "smacking, flipping and rubbing" but oh nooooo. Not me.

They had great staging, too. Six o'clock was after government hours. The swatch watch was non American.

You know what gave it away?

The Jacuzzi!
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Osodecentx
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The sexual revolution was invented in a fraternity house. Frat boys want girls to believe sexual intercourse has no baggage. It worked (girls bought it, boys got sex)
JXL
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Osodecentx said:

The sexual revolution was invented in a fraternity house. Frat boys want girls to believe sexual intercourse has no baggage. It worked (girls bought it, boys got sex)


Nailed it (pun intended, of course).
Redbrickbear
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Sexually "repressive" societies (like the Amish) tend to have extremely high fertility rates, little divorce, and little drug abuse.

Sexually "open" societies (like modern America) tend to have low fertility rates, wide spread divorce, and chronic drug abuse.

Maybe there is a correlation?
BaylorFTW
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Redbrickbear said:

Sexually "repressive" societies (like the Amish) tend to have extremely high fertility rates, little divorce, and little drug abuse.

Sexually "open" societies (like modern America) tend to have low fertility rates, wide spread divorce, and chronic drug abuse.

Maybe there is a correlation?
You may get some bites with this one. You see this same issue in the churches in the US. The mainline churches which pushed for more openness and empowerment of women including taking leadership positions in the church have seen their numbers on a percentage basis decline. Then, the churches that have adhered more to the bible and kept the traditional order have seen their numbers on a percentage basis increase. This doesn't seem surprising to me as one promotes the creation of a family and childbirth and the other looks upon that with contempt. You reap what you sow.
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And don't even think about telling a bunch of sailors to "clap like you're in a strip club" in 2019!!!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/navy-leader-who-told-sailors-aboard-uss-harry-s-truman-to-clap-like-were-at-a-strip-club-has-resigned/ar-AAB5u4a?li=BBnbfcL&OCID=AVRES007
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whitetrash
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You uppity women I don't understand
Why you gotta go and try to act like a man,
But before you make your weekly visit to the shrink
You'd better occupy the kitchen, liberate the sink.

Get your biscuits in the oven and your buns in the bed
That's what I to my baby said,
Women's liberation is a-going to your head,
Get your biscuits in the oven and your buns in the bed.

Early every morning you're out on the street
Passing out pamphlets to everyone you meet.
You gave up your Maiden Form for Lent
And now the front of your dress has an air scoop vent.

Every single brakeman that's ever come along
Had a little woman always tellin' him that he's wrong.
Eve said to Adam, "Here's an apple you horse"
And Delilah defoliated Samson's moss.

Get your biscuits in the oven and your buns in the bed
That's what I to my baby said,
Women's liberation is a-going to your head,
Get your biscuits in the oven and your buns in the bed.

Mean-hearted harpies are breaking all the laws
Tearing up their girdles and a-burning up their bras,
Now the air is dirty and the s** is clean
And your coffee makes my hair turn green.

So damn emancipated in your mind and your body,
Gonna have to cancel all your lessons in karate.
If you can't love a male chauvinist
You'd better cross me off your shopping list.

Get your biscuits in the oven and your buns in the bed
That's what I to my baby said,
Women's liberation is a-going to your head,
Get your biscuits in the oven and your buns in the bed.



trey3216
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Islam has been on this since its inception. They guaranteed 72 Virgins in heaven for laying down your life for the cause.

In all seriousness, sexual partners was a question I had to answer on a lie detector test for the No Such Agency interview. They want to know how you can be manipulated in any manner.
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
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