Breaking update on the whistleblower complaint
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's promise to a foreign leader so troubled an official in the U.S. intelligence community that it prompted them to file a whistleblower complaint, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday.
The Post, which cited two former officials familiar with the matter, said it was not immediately clear which foreign leader Trump was speaking with or what he pledged to deliver. The communication was a phone call, one former official said, according to the Post.
Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson determined that the complaint was credible and troubling enough to be considered a matter of "urgent concern," a legal threshold that requires notification of congressional oversight committees, the Post said.
But the acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire has refused to share details about the complaint with lawmakers, the Post reported.
Maguire has defended his refusal by asserting that the subject of the complaint is beyond his jurisdiction, the Post said.
House of Representatives Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, a Democrat, has sought to compel U.S. intelligence officials to disclose the full details of the whistleblower complaint to Congress.
Atkinson is scheduled to appear at a closed hearing of the committee on Thursday and Maguire has agreed to testify before the panel in open session a week later, Schiff said in a statement.
The White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Representatives of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence could not be reached.
The Post, which cited two former officials familiar with the matter, said it was not immediately clear which foreign leader Trump was speaking with or what he pledged to deliver. The communication was a phone call, one former official said, according to the Post.
Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson determined that the complaint was credible and troubling enough to be considered a matter of "urgent concern," a legal threshold that requires notification of congressional oversight committees, the Post said.
But the acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire has refused to share details about the complaint with lawmakers, the Post reported.
Maguire has defended his refusal by asserting that the subject of the complaint is beyond his jurisdiction, the Post said.
House of Representatives Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, a Democrat, has sought to compel U.S. intelligence officials to disclose the full details of the whistleblower complaint to Congress.
Atkinson is scheduled to appear at a closed hearing of the committee on Thursday and Maguire has agreed to testify before the panel in open session a week later, Schiff said in a statement.
The White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Representatives of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence could not be reached.
Ruckus, I love when you reply to yourself.
Chuckle. I bet you don't love what I posted.Kyle said:
Ruckus, I love when you reply to yourself.
Wait 48 hours on this one.
I'm shocked - more anonymous sources from Wash Post saying they don't know what he said or who he said it to....but it was BAD BAD BAD.
Time to deflect from all the bad press the liberals are getting and switch the narrative back to Trump. Crying wolf never gets old. Nice timing as usual when all these IG reports are coming out exposing the liberals and corruption under Obama.
This is funny to read below. I can't imagine why his relationship would be 'strained' w/ the spy agencies after what they did to him in 2015 & 2016. Of course no one trusts them. They have been lying and deflecting since Obama was in office - they have become so corrupt at the top I wouldn't trust them either after what they did to the GOP Trump Flynn and everyone else involved in the Trump campaign. Comey and others are already on record about what they did and others about wearing a wire to spy on Trump.
It was not immediately clear which foreign leader Trump was speaking with or what he pledged to deliver, but his direct involvement in the matter has not been previously disclosed. It raises new questions about the president's handling of sensitive information and may further strain his relationship with U.S. spy agencies. One former official said the communication was a phone call.
Time to deflect from all the bad press the liberals are getting and switch the narrative back to Trump. Crying wolf never gets old. Nice timing as usual when all these IG reports are coming out exposing the liberals and corruption under Obama.
This is funny to read below. I can't imagine why his relationship would be 'strained' w/ the spy agencies after what they did to him in 2015 & 2016. Of course no one trusts them. They have been lying and deflecting since Obama was in office - they have become so corrupt at the top I wouldn't trust them either after what they did to the GOP Trump Flynn and everyone else involved in the Trump campaign. Comey and others are already on record about what they did and others about wearing a wire to spy on Trump.
It was not immediately clear which foreign leader Trump was speaking with or what he pledged to deliver, but his direct involvement in the matter has not been previously disclosed. It raises new questions about the president's handling of sensitive information and may further strain his relationship with U.S. spy agencies. One former official said the communication was a phone call.
Imagine if we knew what Obama said to Russia & Iran as President during the deals giving them billions of cash. How about when he was negotiating to bring back a traitor and gave up terrorists to get them back. How about hearing his calls w/ generals when it came to ISIS and dismissing them like they were some JAVEE team not to be focused on. What a disaster he was thinking back to all his policy failures and what he left the country w/ as he left office. He spent more time scheming and spying on Trump w/ his intel leaders along w/ going on dates w/ Hollywood stars than he did anything else. His goal was to leave office w/ us heading toward radical liberal policies and to get as rich as possible.
The nature of supporting Trump apparently means a wholesale rejection of any oversight or transparency whatsoever.
Just to be clear, this whistleblower is a Republican appointee of Trump, and she heard something concerning enough to report it, something Trump's OIG called "urgent" and important enough to direct the acting (now we see like Trump likes "acting" appointees instead of confirmed ones) DNI to forward it to Congress.
It is a clear violation of statutory law for the DNI to not comply with HPSCI and turn over the complaint, but of course the Trump administration doesnt care about the rule of law and neither do its supporters.
Just to be clear, this whistleblower is a Republican appointee of Trump, and she heard something concerning enough to report it, something Trump's OIG called "urgent" and important enough to direct the acting (now we see like Trump likes "acting" appointees instead of confirmed ones) DNI to forward it to Congress.
It is a clear violation of statutory law for the DNI to not comply with HPSCI and turn over the complaint, but of course the Trump administration doesnt care about the rule of law and neither do its supporters.
Another "scandal" with zero evidence that liberals will push for a while and then find something new to complain about.
Ruckus saw it on another site he works, so he needed to post it here.cowboycwr said:
Another "scandal" with zero evidence that liberals will push for a while and then find something new to complain about.
We're not like you and the liberals who avoid condemning their own when actual corrupt illegal acts happen. Something you're still doing w/ Trump/Russia and Obama's leaders - something where REAL evidence has already come out.HuMcK said:
The nature of supporting Trump apparently means a wholesale rejection of any oversight or transparency whatsoever.
Just to be clear, this whistleblower is a Republican appointee of Trump, and she heard something concerning enough to report it, something Trump's OIG called "urgent" and important enough to direct the acting (now we see like Trump likes "acting" appointees instead of confirmed ones) DNI to forward it to Congress.
It is a clear violation of statutory law for the DNI to not comply with HPSCI and turn over the complaint, but of course the Trump administration doesnt care about the rule of law and neither do its supporters.
If Trump did something wrong I would absolutely call him out on it and have multiple times.
I did not see where the whistleblow was an 'appointee' of Trump. I thought that person was anonymous as of now.
The IG who they referred it to was an appointee and you are right, he did say it was urgent to look into so hopefully the right thing will be done here.
Can someone tell me what statue, law, ethic, code etc. that POTUS violated?
Pretty sure members of the IC and congress don't get to tell the President what is or isn't appropriate talk about with foreign leaders.
Pretty sure members of the IC and congress don't get to tell the President what is or isn't appropriate talk about with foreign leaders.
How can we? He's blocking disclousure of the whistleblower complaint.Doc Holliday said:
Can someone tell me what statue, law, ethic, code etc. that POTUS violated?
Pretty sure members of the IC and congress don't get to tell the President what is or isn't appropriate talk about with foreign leaders.
(yawn)
Another day ...another fabricated 'crisis' .....for the 24 hour talk heads to pontificate about .
Got to fill up all those time slots with something ...anything.
Tiresome
Another day ...another fabricated 'crisis' .....for the 24 hour talk heads to pontificate about .
Got to fill up all those time slots with something ...anything.
Tiresome
Ukraine is the new Russia! Get ready for breathless coverage by a media promoting DNC talking points from here until the election.
The DNC and their media minions will keep throwing crap against the wall until something sticks.
The DNC and their media minions will keep throwing crap against the wall until something sticks.
So if there was corruption from a U.S. citizen w/ Ukraine. Isn't it the job of our govt to investigate?
Dems wanted Trump investigated because they thought he was in bed w/ Putin and Russia (which they knew was lie because they came up w/ the story) but in this case there actually is something to be investigated but now they want to go after Trump's administration for wanting to get evidence?
Biden won't even be the Dem candidate so it won't even matter.
Once again - Dems do the old switcherooooo. When they commit a crime, they blame it on the other party and make the press do their dirty work to push the narrative so they can skate again...
We'll see how this one shakes out...
Dems wanted Trump investigated because they thought he was in bed w/ Putin and Russia (which they knew was lie because they came up w/ the story) but in this case there actually is something to be investigated but now they want to go after Trump's administration for wanting to get evidence?
Biden won't even be the Dem candidate so it won't even matter.
Once again - Dems do the old switcherooooo. When they commit a crime, they blame it on the other party and make the press do their dirty work to push the narrative so they can skate again...
We'll see how this one shakes out...
The WAPO is reporting tonight one of the concerning "urgent" situations involved Trump and Ukraine.
To his credit, the Trump appointed IG is trying to be transparent even as the DOJ is stonewalling.
Does it concern any of you that they should not be involved in this process?
But we're reliably told the President has a second and more venal agenda: He is attempting to force Mr. Zelensky to intervene in the 2020 U.S. presidential election by launching an investigation of the leading Democratic candidate, Joe Biden. Mr. Trump is not just soliciting Ukraine's help with his presidential campaign; he is using U.S. military aid the country desperately needs in an attempt to extort it.
The strong-arming of Mr. Zelensky was openly reported to the New York Times last month by Mr. Trump's personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, who said he had met in Madrid with a close associate of the Ukrainian leader and urged that the new government restart an investigation of Mr. Biden and his son. Hunter Biden served on the board of a Ukrainian gas company, while Joe Biden, as vice president, urged the dismissal of Ukraine's top prosecutor, who investigated the firm.
Mr. Giuliani also wants a probe of claims that revelations of payments by a Ukrainian political party to Mr. Trump's 2016 campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, were part of a plot to wreck Mr. Trump's candidacy. In other words, Trump associates want the Ukrainian government to prove that Ukraine improperly acted against Mr. Trump in the 2016 election; but they also want it to meddle in his favor for 2020.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/is-trump-strong-arming-ukraines-new-president-for-political-gain/2019/09/05/4eb239b0-cffa-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html
To his credit, the Trump appointed IG is trying to be transparent even as the DOJ is stonewalling.
Does it concern any of you that they should not be involved in this process?
But we're reliably told the President has a second and more venal agenda: He is attempting to force Mr. Zelensky to intervene in the 2020 U.S. presidential election by launching an investigation of the leading Democratic candidate, Joe Biden. Mr. Trump is not just soliciting Ukraine's help with his presidential campaign; he is using U.S. military aid the country desperately needs in an attempt to extort it.
The strong-arming of Mr. Zelensky was openly reported to the New York Times last month by Mr. Trump's personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, who said he had met in Madrid with a close associate of the Ukrainian leader and urged that the new government restart an investigation of Mr. Biden and his son. Hunter Biden served on the board of a Ukrainian gas company, while Joe Biden, as vice president, urged the dismissal of Ukraine's top prosecutor, who investigated the firm.
Mr. Giuliani also wants a probe of claims that revelations of payments by a Ukrainian political party to Mr. Trump's 2016 campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, were part of a plot to wreck Mr. Trump's candidacy. In other words, Trump associates want the Ukrainian government to prove that Ukraine improperly acted against Mr. Trump in the 2016 election; but they also want it to meddle in his favor for 2020.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/is-trump-strong-arming-ukraines-new-president-for-political-gain/2019/09/05/4eb239b0-cffa-11e9-8c1c-7c8ee785b855_story.html
Cinque - if Biden or his son committed a crime, you don't think it should be investigated? They were talking about this a year ago about the Bidens.
Again, if Trump did something wrong I'll call him out but what I think is happening right now is the two IG reports are about to come out exposing some very damning material about how deep this Trump/Russia fiasco went. As usual, the Dems want to get out in front of the story and deflect.
I bet we will hear soon after the FISA IG report is made public that Trump is weaponizing the DOJ/FBI by going after the Democrats. Just wait, that will be there reaction to the DOJ wanting to bring charges towards people. McCabe or Comey will be one of the first to say it.
Again, if Trump did something wrong I'll call him out but what I think is happening right now is the two IG reports are about to come out exposing some very damning material about how deep this Trump/Russia fiasco went. As usual, the Dems want to get out in front of the story and deflect.
I bet we will hear soon after the FISA IG report is made public that Trump is weaponizing the DOJ/FBI by going after the Democrats. Just wait, that will be there reaction to the DOJ wanting to bring charges towards people. McCabe or Comey will be one of the first to say it.
You really are as shameless as they come. When the US citizen being investigated was Manafort, you called that a crime that people should go to prison for. Now we have Trump cutting off military aid, against the advice of his own Pentagon, explicitly because Ukraine didn't want to reopen a completed investigation just to help Trump take down Biden, and you couldn't care less.
Trump/Russia - 2015/2016
Democrats make up a fake Russia hoax to try and take down Trump and expose the crimes they committed.
Democrats reaction - lets spy on Trump and launch a Special Counsel investigation that will handicap his presidency for almost 3 years. Again - NO CRIMES were committed, they were literally trying to find a crime. Even McCabe said w/out the dossier there IS NO Special Counsel.
Trump/Ukraine - 2019
There are serious allegations of real crimes committed by the Bidens that need to be investigated and have been made public for well over a year.
Democrats reaction - it's a crime for the President to investigate this for political purposes. They should ignore it and let the Bidens get away w/ everything.
Do you realize how insane backa$$ward and hypocritical you all sound w/ this. For 3 years you remained (and still do) silent about the Dems making up a fake investigation that has divided a country, cost our country $100s of millions of dollars and didn't care that they investigated Trump and all his campaign based on FALSE and MADE UP allegations.
Now that there are real crimes to investigate - you don't want it to happen because it's coming after one of your Dem candidates.
INSANITY as usual.
Democrats make up a fake Russia hoax to try and take down Trump and expose the crimes they committed.
Democrats reaction - lets spy on Trump and launch a Special Counsel investigation that will handicap his presidency for almost 3 years. Again - NO CRIMES were committed, they were literally trying to find a crime. Even McCabe said w/out the dossier there IS NO Special Counsel.
Trump/Ukraine - 2019
There are serious allegations of real crimes committed by the Bidens that need to be investigated and have been made public for well over a year.
Democrats reaction - it's a crime for the President to investigate this for political purposes. They should ignore it and let the Bidens get away w/ everything.
Do you realize how insane backa$$ward and hypocritical you all sound w/ this. For 3 years you remained (and still do) silent about the Dems making up a fake investigation that has divided a country, cost our country $100s of millions of dollars and didn't care that they investigated Trump and all his campaign based on FALSE and MADE UP allegations.
Now that there are real crimes to investigate - you don't want it to happen because it's coming after one of your Dem candidates.
INSANITY as usual.
Do you have all the facts? Read a few posts up and I said if Trump did something wrong I'd be the first to call him out. So exactly how is that shameless? I don't think I ever said anything remotely close to that about Manafort. Plus, what he was found guilty of was something he did way before he worked for Trump - so your point is?HuMcK said:
You really are as shameless as they come. When the US citizen being investigated was Manafort, you called that a crime that people should go to prison for. Now we have Trump cutting off military aid, against the advice of his own Pentagon, explicitly because Ukraine didn't want to reopen a completed investigation just to help Trump take down Biden, and you couldn't care less.
If I remember correctly, Ukraine came to Rudy or others in this administration w/ evidence that there was corruption in 2016 election and this was reported well over a year ago.
Me Shameless? this coming from the person that to this day still ignores all the lies conspiracy theories that you pushed for 3 years about Trump/Russia? LOL OK
If you think a United States citizen committed a crime ... you ask Ukraine to investigate?
Gunter gleiben glauchen globen
What? Ukraine came to the U.S. about the crimes.fubar said:
If you think a United States citizen committed a crime ... you ask Ukraine to investigate?
That's not what Rudy Giuliani said tonight.riflebear said:What? Ukraine came to the U.S. about the crimes.fubar said:
If you think a United States citizen committed a crime ... you ask Ukraine to investigate?
Gunter gleiben glauchen globen
Trump is involved in a whistleblower complaint that is about him and he shouldn't be. That's doing something wrong.riflebear said:Do you have all the facts? Read a few posts up and I said if Trump did something wrong I'd be the first to call him out. So exactly how is that shameless? I don't think I ever said anything remotely close to that about Manafort. Plus, what he was found guilty of was something he did way before he worked for Trump - so your point is?HuMcK said:
CYou really are as shameless as they come. When the US citizen being investigated was Manafort, you called that a crime that people should go to prison for. Now we have Trump cutting off military aid, against the advice of his own Pentagon, explicitly because Ukraine didn't want to reopen a completed investigation just to help Trump take down Biden, and you couldn't care less.
If I remember correctly, Ukraine came to Rudy or others in this administration w/ evidence that there was corruption in 2016 election and this was reported well over a year ago.
Me Shameless? this coming from the person that to this day still ignores all the lies conspiracy theories that you pushed for 3 years about Trump/Russia? LOL OK
riflebear said:
Hmmm
I notice our resident libs ignore the real crime as usual.
So Biden admits he threatened and bribed a foreign official that you won't get your $1.2B loan guarantee unless you fire the prosecutor.
Who was the prosecutor? He was investigating Biden's son taking over $5M and moving it around several countries to his own company.
Once again. The real crimes are ignored if you are a Dem but let's run with classified info that should not be public to the press so it could hurt Trump.
And it gets better. Biden's son received over $1 Billion into his fund run by who? John Kerry's son and Whitey Bulger's freakin nephew.
Could you imagine if Trump's son had received that from a foreign govt?
Once again. If you are a Democrat you get away with everything. If you are a Republican you are destroyed for a speeding ticket.
Could you imagine if Trump's son had received that from a foreign govt?
Once again. If you are a Democrat you get away with everything. If you are a Republican you are destroyed for a speeding ticket.
Looks like it's that time again...
Three Democrat-controlled house committees Foreign Affairs, Intelligence and Government Reform have announced that they will investigate whether a host of ethical and legal rules have been violated.
Ridiculous.
Ridiculous.