The most dangerous thing about this impeachment

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Doc Holliday
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Democrats are using complete conjecture and filling in the blanks as if it's absolute fact.

Most of what they are implying has been disproven through testimony. None of it is part of their articles of impeachment. Nobody is calling them out, and nobody is stopping them.

Let's get down to it...this impeachment is Sedition on live TV.

Canada2017
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Doc Holliday said:

Democrats are using complete conjecture and filling in the blanks as if it's absolute fact.

Most of what they are implying has been disproven through testimony. None of it is part of their articles of impeachment. Nobody is calling them out, and nobody is stopping them.

Let's get down to it...this impeachment is Sedition on live TV.




Have never seen anything like it in my entire life .

Dems are setting a horrible precedent.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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The Senate has to be pissed! (Including some of the Democratic Senators.) The Democrat impeachment managers are regurgitating talking points from the last 3 years, most of which have nothing to do with the two specific articles of impeachment. Schiff even had the gall to run the clip of Trump jokingly asking Russia to go get Hillary's E-mails back on the 2016 campaign trail? W T F ? I think the Senate will end this fiasco sooner than later.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

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57Bear
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Democrats are taking a page from their favorite bureaucrats at the FBI. Throw a lot of stuff against the wall and hope that some of it sticks. If that fails, they will solicit lots of response hoping that they can develop a perjury charge.
Canada2017
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Worked in the Alabama senate race

Almost worked with a Supreme Court nominee.

The Democratic Party has gone completely rogue .
drahthaar
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IMO, the most dangerous thing in this entire mess is a Justice Dept without absolute dedication to determining fact and for allowing itself to become a player in the political warfare. Nadler and Schiff will be a footnote in history for all this while the effects of poor governance will last for generations. Both sides are guilty but this is one example or sent where the nation would benefit for folks to put on Big Boy and Big Girl panties and lead from some high ground.
FormerFlash
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Democrats: "Forget the facts. The accusations alone are more than enough to impeach. If we don't act now and get this president out of office, he'll steal the 2020 election (which we have zero evidence to prove)!

What they really saying: "We're the ones actually attempting to steal the 2020 election by removing a sitting president based on nothing more than butt hurt, TDS, and a closely held belief that orange man bad."

riflebear
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This is getting wild. Trump should have gotten rid of everyone near the White House who worked for Obama back in early 2017. He was naive (as Comey said). They set him up and I hope this gets exposed.

riflebear
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A sitting US congressman said that we can't trust the people to vote in 2020. Incredible

Jack Bauer
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The F is this crap? Now it's ok to question election results? F this guy.



BearFan33
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witchmo said:

IMO, the most dangerous thing in this entire mess is a Justice Dept without absolute dedication to determining fact and for allowing itself to become a player in the political warfare. Nadler and Schiff will be a footnote in history for all this while the effects of poor governance will last for generations. Both sides are guilty but this is one example or sent where the nation would benefit for folks to put on Big Boy and Big Girl panties and lead from some high ground.
This is absolutely correct. It's one side effect of a two tiered justice system. Until the people in the intelligence communities who set up Russia gate are brought to justice, this kind of stuff will continue. The democrats and their partners in the DOJ/FBI/media run wild and have had virtually zero repercussions for the malpractice they did with Russia gate, Kavanaugh hearing and now this impeachment farce.

If Barr/Durham don't get some serious scalps, this kind of stuff will become the new normal.
riflebear
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We live in a world where the media is so corrupt and hides just about anything the Dems do that the person asking about corruption and fraud and wanting it investigated is the person who is being investigated. Instead of the person who was allegedly involved or was helping to cover up the fraud/corruption.

We are living in the twilight zone of politics. This is what happens when the press is 95% in the tank w/ one side.
riflebear
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This thing just blew wide open. Watch this video.
This guy worked for the Ukrainian embassy in 2016 when the DNC was pressuring him to get dirt on Trump. He was at the meeting at the White House where Obama's team brought up Biden & Burisma. He shows the invite and schedule of the meeting. This not only blows up the impeachment hearings but provides further truth about how corrupt the Russia conspiracy story was back in 2015/2016. These people are so dirty it's scary.

ScottS
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Are Schiff and Nadler done? It seems they have been speaking and running things for 6 months straight.
riflebear
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Game over. Amazing what happens when people are able to hear the facts.

riflebear
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Whiskey Pete
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riflebear
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Can't make this stuff up

Born_A_Bear
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Ken Starr is currently presenting opening arguments (1 pm cst).
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ScottS
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There doesn't have to be a crime. Liberals don't like Trump and that should be enough.
riflebear
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The web of lies and deep state around this President is scary. How have these people not been kicked out of being 10 miles w/in this administration? They need to clean house.

Redbrickbear
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Trump honestly is probably not that smart.

His gut is usually right. He has a natural good gambler's spider sense. He can see that endless immigration is fracturing the nation and making average workers poorer. He can see that more foreign wars are a net loser for the average america. He can see that radical transgender ideology is dangerous to kids and angers average Americans. He has seen how high taxes hurt business and gripple growth.

But he is no deep thinker. He is just smarter than the normal Establishment Bush/Romney Republican type.

He simply had no idea that most of the Federal government was so infested with these types of liberals and Bush/Romney Republicans.

He has no one around him he can trust and who actually wants to carry out his agenda...and he is not smart enough to find those people.

Come to think of it...well heck these people might not even exist in D.C.
Kyle
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Redbrickbear said:

Trump honestly is probably not that smart.

His gut is usually right. He has a natural good gambler's spider sense. He can see that endless immigration is fracturing the nation and making average workers poorer. He can see that more foreign wars are a net loser for the average america. He can see that radical transgender ideology is dangerous to kids and angers average Americans. He has seen how high taxes hurt business and gripple growth.

But he is no deep thinker. He is just smarter than the normal Establishment Bush/Romney Republican type.

He simply had no idea that most of the Federal government was so infested with these types of liberals and Bush/Romney Republicans.

He has no one around him he can trust and who actually wants to carry out his agenda...and he is not smart enough to find those people.

Come to think of it...well heck these people might not even exist in D.C.
I think that's probably pretty spot on.

From ancient Rome to D.C. to the EU, bureaucracies and lifelong bureaucrats inherently move further away from the people they govern. They live in an alternative reality with different objectives, needs, etc. Inevitably, they begin to see the people not as the end but the means - this is what Trump meant by "the Swamp." Some of it is ideological but much of it is practical.
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