Meaning national guard enforcing shelter-in-place. Hearing from reputable sources that it's going to happen this Friday. We'll see!
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This sounds an awful lot like tinfoil hat paranoia to me. Jade Helm stuff. I am skeptical.BellCountyBear said:
Meaning national guard enforcing shelter-in-place. Hearing from reputable sources that it's going to happen this Friday. We'll see!
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Does no one realize it has affected 0.02% of the population?
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Only if the UN orders him to.BellCountyBear said:
Meaning national guard enforcing shelter-in-place. Hearing from reputable sources that it's going to happen this Friday. We'll see!
Which "reputable" source on Fox is this coming from?
I heard it was last weekend from my reputable sources. Apparently, he did it very smoothly last week. I hardly noticed.
Flaming cuz your pants are on fire?Flaming Moderate said:
Does no one realize it has affected 0.02% of the population?
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-many-americans-are-really-infected-with-the-coronavirus
It's impossible to know how many people are infected right now. Just know that the number is far higher than the running case count.
It's easier to do big, sweeping projections on a question like how many people will be infected by the time this is all over and done with. Marc Lipsitch, head of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health's Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics, has been running projections to figure out how many adults across the world will be infected before a vaccine hits the market (one won't be available for at least a year) or herd immunity kicks in when enough people have developed immunity to the virus, from having caught it, so that it can't easily be transmitted any more. He concluded that between 20% and 60% of adults worldwide will ultimately get infected. (ProPublica has created a tool based on his models and it's worth checking out.)
It's much harder to figure out how many Americans are infected at this very moment. Some states have little information because they've barely started testing and don't know when community transmission began in specific places. Many people with symptoms consistent with COVID-19 were turned away from getting tests.
Caitlin Rivers, a computational epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, said she's "not sure we're in a place where we're able to estimate that," though she's confident that there are far more infected people than the number of reported cases at this time. Computational epidemiologist Maia Majumder said that without widespread testing, this is a "really challenging question to pin down."
In short, the best way to actually know is with hard evidence which means testing. As World Health Organization director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on Monday: "You cannot fight a fire blindfolded, and we cannot stop this pandemic if we don't know who is infected. We have a simple message for all countries: Test, test, test."
If a lot more people are infected... that makes the death rate fall. So, not as deadly as first portrayed.Jinx 2 said:Flaming cuz your pants are on fire?Flaming Moderate said:
Does no one realize it has affected 0.02% of the population?
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-many-americans-are-really-infected-with-the-coronavirus
It's impossible to know how many people are infected right now. Just know that the number is far higher than the running case count.
It's easier to do big, sweeping projections on a question like how many people will be infected by the time this is all over and done with. Marc Lipsitch, head of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health's Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics, has been running projections to figure out how many adults across the world will be infected before a vaccine hits the market (one won't be available for at least a year) or herd immunity kicks in when enough people have developed immunity to the virus, from having caught it, so that it can't easily be transmitted any more. He concluded that between 20% and 60% of adults worldwide will ultimately get infected. (ProPublica has created a tool based on his models and it's worth checking out.)
It's much harder to figure out how many Americans are infected at this very moment. Some states have little information because they've barely started testing and don't know when community transmission began in specific places. Many people with symptoms consistent with COVID-19 were turned away from getting tests.
Caitlin Rivers, a computational epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, said she's "not sure we're in a place where we're able to estimate that," though she's confident that there are far more infected people than the number of reported cases at this time. Computational epidemiologist Maia Majumder said that without widespread testing, this is a "really challenging question to pin down."
In short, the best way to actually know is with hard evidence which means testing. As World Health Organization director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on Monday: "You cannot fight a fire blindfolded, and we cannot stop this pandemic if we don't know who is infected. We have a simple message for all countries: Test, test, test."
How's Tara Reade, have you sent her a message giving her emotional support over the biden assault?
He's scheduled to do an executive order that opens the state next week.
with appropriate limitations of course...tommie said:
He's scheduled to do an executive order that opens the state next week.
Overall, it seems Gov Abbott has handled it fairly well. While testing lags behind, the hospitalization and death rate havent ballooned like other states. We will see how the rest of April goes to see if we are behind in the curve or we flattened TX curve early.
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Gruvin said:with appropriate limitations of course...tommie said:
He's scheduled to do an executive order that opens the state next week.
Overall, it seems Gov Abbott has handled it fairly well. While testing lags behind, the hospitalization and death rate havent ballooned like other states. We will see how the rest of April goes to see if we are behind in the curve or we flattened TX curve early.
It has been handled well by local leaders who had shelter in place orders in effect for 2 weeks before Abbott did it. Abbott's is only about a week old anyway. I suspect what ever Abbott orders is not going to cause Mayors and County Judges to end their orders early.
But you can look at coronavirus 1point3 acres and see Texas counties filling in pink even sparsely populated rural ones. Texas is due to spike in a couple of weeks. If Abbott actually gets his way and plays DeSantis, Texas will turn into a disaster. That said I don't think local leaders are going to be changing anything despite what Abbott declares.
We'll see. If Abbott lifts the order, you can still stay homePartyBear said:Gruvin said:with appropriate limitations of course...tommie said:
He's scheduled to do an executive order that opens the state next week.
Overall, it seems Gov Abbott has handled it fairly well. While testing lags behind, the hospitalization and death rate havent ballooned like other states. We will see how the rest of April goes to see if we are behind in the curve or we flattened TX curve early.
But you can look at coronavirus 1point3 acres and see Texas counties filling in pink even sparsely populated rural ones. Texas is due to spike in a couple of weeks. If Abbott actually gets his way and plays DeSantis, Texas will turn into a disaster. That said I don't think local leaders are going to be changing anything despite what Abbott declares.
As the number of people infected with the coronavirus surpasses 450,000 worldwide, and more than one billion are locked in their homes, scientists are wrestling with one of the most pressing questions of the pandemic: Do people who survive the infection become immune to the virus?
The answer is a qualified yes, with some significant unknowns. That's important for several reasons.
People who are confirmed to be immune could venture from their homes and help shore up the work force until a vaccine becomes available, for example. In particular, health care workers who are known to be immune could continue to care for the severely ill.
Growing immunity in the community also is the way the epidemic ends: With fewer and fewer people to infect, the coronavirus will lose its toehold and even the most vulnerable citizens become more insulated from the threat.
Antibodies gathered from the bodies of those who have recovered may be used to aid those struggling with the illness caused by the coronavirus, called Covid-19.
On Tuesday, the Food and Drug Administration approved the use of plasma from recovered patients to treat some severe cases. A day earlier, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo announced that New York would become the first state to begin testing serum from people who have recovered from Covid-19 to treat those who are seriously ill.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/health/coronavirus-immunity-antibodies.html
The answer is a qualified yes, with some significant unknowns. That's important for several reasons.
People who are confirmed to be immune could venture from their homes and help shore up the work force until a vaccine becomes available, for example. In particular, health care workers who are known to be immune could continue to care for the severely ill.
Growing immunity in the community also is the way the epidemic ends: With fewer and fewer people to infect, the coronavirus will lose its toehold and even the most vulnerable citizens become more insulated from the threat.
Antibodies gathered from the bodies of those who have recovered may be used to aid those struggling with the illness caused by the coronavirus, called Covid-19.
On Tuesday, the Food and Drug Administration approved the use of plasma from recovered patients to treat some severe cases. A day earlier, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo announced that New York would become the first state to begin testing serum from people who have recovered from Covid-19 to treat those who are seriously ill.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/health/coronavirus-immunity-antibodies.html
Everything in Waco including Baylor shut down prior to Abbott doing anything. His saying reopen is just as irrelevant is what I'm saying. Hell little rural deep red Coryell County is freaked by rising cases there and their County Judge just issued a shelter in place order just yesterday more stringent than what any blue state Governor has done. They have banned anyone who does not live in the county from entering the county unless they work there. They can't enforce this of course, but my point here is that Abbott's proclamations are empty.
Totally agree with Party. Abbott is not the one that shut things down. People, schools, some businesses, and the cities and counties did that on their own. Plus it won't matter if there isn't clear evidence that this is under control enough to go back to "normal", which will not be the normal from before. No one is going to put any faith in Abbott's or Trump's "gut feelings".PartyBear said:
Everything in Waco including Baylor shut down prior to Abbott doing anything. His saying reopen is just as irrelevant is what I'm saying. Hell little rural deep red Coryell County is freaked by rising cases there and their County Judge just issued a shelter in place order just yesterday more stringent than what any blue state Governor has done. They have banned anyone who does not live in the county from entering the county unless they work there. They can't enforce this of course, but my point here is that Abbott's proclamations are empty.
Unlike the open-it-up, damn the consequences crowd, tens of millions of people are not going to risk going out to a ball game, restaurant, theater or anywhere else where there are crowds without a whole better feeling of confidence than what they have right now. They are thinking beyond themselves. They are thinking about their kids, their parents, grandparents, etc. What good is going out if you feel you have to isolate yourself from your family to do so? Do you really want to "party-on" and then have disabling regret for the rest of your life because you gave a family member, especially elders (although young healthy people are dying as well) a disease that put them in the ground because you wanted to get back to normal before there was enough clarity on what that would cause?
I love the environment today - this board has one thread where the posters are blaming Abbott for being unprepared and another saying he has no impact. Blame GOP, credit others. Pretty much this board.