quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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HuMcK said:

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The Portland Mayor was tear gassed in last nights protests/riots.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/portland-mayor-tear-gassed-amid-protests-over-federal-agents-11595499111

Does this mean the mayor was part of a riot in his own city?

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Ummm...Trump has a problem with self awareness at times, but I'm not sure I can recall a more idiotic lack of self and situational awareness than this guy. I'm thinking he's just looking to score points with the protester/riot folks.

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Can you go deeper on this comment? I don't see your point yet.

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Pretty self explanatory.

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Mayor attends a peaceful rally, gets teargassed. And this demonstrates a lack of self-awareness how? Considering you use Trump as the benchmark this one is not even close.

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You talking about the same rally in which he was assaulted, spit on, yelled at, and had stuff thrown at him, before his security team got physical?

We watching the same videos?

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How will there be elections in this?

Imagine that!

There's no way polls will be safe in these cities! No way

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I'd love seeing Feds come in there with directions to clean this thing up

Wouldn't take long and the rioters would run like weaklings

Shoot em like fish in a barrel

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"shoot em like fish in a barrel" really? I think it's fair to disagree with some of the protesters' violence, but I don't think any sane person would want the feds to start indiscriminately shooting at crowds of people like fish in a barrel. Get help floriduh...

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Incorrect

Targeted sniping .

Enough is enough .

These are anarchists....rat people with nothing to lose .

Either face what's going on or they will continue to escalate their destruction.

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Contrario is behaving like that Portland Mayor

Look where that got him!

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Booray said:

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Booray said:

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If Canada is representative, the "conservatives" in this country are no in favor of extra-judicial assassinations by the government for alleged property crimes.

But the liberals are the facists?

Holy cow.

Just wondering are there any right wingers out there who will step up and say-we should arrest rather that shoot people we suspect of committing a property crime?

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How many rioters have actually been shot?

For now, your post is just more evasion because you can't admit the violence is all from the Left, and the federal law enforcement is simply a long-overdue and necessary response.

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None, thankfully.

I am not evading anything. I said that the lawbreakers should be arrested and prosecuted rather than shot without trial.

Canada expressly disagrees-saying we need to start shooting our own citizens. You and now Doc apparently agree because you can't bring yourself to say Canada is wrong.

Its a pretty simple question: should we arrest and prosecute protesters who break the law or should we just shoot them?

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Individuals attacking law enforcement officers with deadly intent should be shot, arsonists caught in the act should be shot .

National guard units should have been sent to certain areas of Chicago, St Louis and Baltimore years ago.
There is simply no excuse in allowing dozens of innocent people....the majority of which are black....to be slaughtered each week.

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The whole innocent until proven guilty thing is out the window I guess. Lot of respect for the Constitution there.

And don't twist my words. Any law enforcement officer who is being threatened with injury or sees someone else being threatened with injury has the right to use deadly force. But arsonists "caught in the act" should be shot is beyond disturbing.

I don't mind the national guard being called in for riots as long as it is the governor doing the calling. Otherwise you are throwing out Federalism on top of the right to trial. Routine law enforcement is not a good idea for the national guard. That is not what the sign up for, its not what they are trained for and it would creat coordination headaches on a massive scale.

Does anyone else other than Mothra think these sort of "shoot'em on site: ideas are out of hand?

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Booray said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Booray said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Booray said:

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If Canada is representative, the "conservatives" in this country are no in favor of extra-judicial assassinations by the government for alleged property crimes.

But the liberals are the facists?

Holy cow.

Just wondering are there any right wingers out there who will step up and say-we should arrest rather that shoot people we suspect of committing a property crime?

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How many rioters have actually been shot?

For now, your post is just more evasion because you can't admit the violence is all from the Left, and the federal law enforcement is simply a long-overdue and necessary response.

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None, thankfully.

I am not evading anything. I said that the lawbreakers should be arrested and prosecuted rather than shot without trial.

Canada expressly disagrees-saying we need to start shooting our own citizens. You and now Doc apparently agree because you can't bring yourself to say Canada is wrong.

Its a pretty simple question: should we arrest and prosecute protesters who break the law or should we just shoot them?

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BS.

You implied law enforcement was shooting protesters, instead of what they are actually doing, protecting citizens and stopping violence.

Canada spoke out of emotion, just as you did. This is obvious from simply reading the thread, but you can't be honest enough to admit that, either.

The plain fact is that federal officers are doing what the Mayor and Governor should have done but refused to do, and you won't admit that their political malfeasance is wrong.

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I didn't imply any such thing. Quote the words that caused you to think I did.

Canada's first post might be out of emotion but I gave him time to think about it and he stuck with it.

I said we should arrest and prosecute lawbreakers and condemned any mayor or DA who didn't do that. What more do you want?

And most of all, you are still avoiding the question: should we arrest and prosecute protesters who break the law or should we just shoot them?

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I can answer the last one - arrest them and prosecute, obviously. Anyone that advocates shooting them must not remember what country we live in. This isn't Venezuela.

The problem is, the leftist mob condemns even arrests. It destroys the narrative (however false) that the protestors are "peaceful." We all know that's a bunch of malarkey, but the leftist (and chiefly, the leftist new organizations) can't admit it. Even the Portland Mayor, when confronted my the mob, spit on and assaulted, can't admit it.

Got to maintain that bull **** narrative. There is afterall an election coming.

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Not denying this, but the fact that they get undeserved press coverage is no reason to shoot them.

Is this happening in states where it's legal to shoot trespassers invading your home or property?

Serious question

I think Georgia is a state with these laws but not sure

Has anyone noticed this?

Booray said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Booray said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Booray said:

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If Canada is representative, the "conservatives" in this country are no in favor of extra-judicial assassinations by the government for alleged property crimes.

But the liberals are the facists?

Holy cow.

Just wondering are there any right wingers out there who will step up and say-we should arrest rather that shoot people we suspect of committing a property crime?

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How many rioters have actually been shot?

For now, your post is just more evasion because you can't admit the violence is all from the Left, and the federal law enforcement is simply a long-overdue and necessary response.

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None, thankfully.

I am not evading anything. I said that the lawbreakers should be arrested and prosecuted rather than shot without trial.

Canada expressly disagrees-saying we need to start shooting our own citizens. You and now Doc apparently agree because you can't bring yourself to say Canada is wrong.

Its a pretty simple question: should we arrest and prosecute protesters who break the law or should we just shoot them?

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Individuals attacking law enforcement officers with deadly intent should be shot, arsonists caught in the act should be shot .

National guard units should have been sent to certain areas of Chicago, St Louis and Baltimore years ago.
There is simply no excuse in allowing dozens of innocent people....the majority of which are black....to be slaughtered each week.

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Does anyone else other than Mothra think these sort of "shoot'em on site: ideas are out of hand?

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Of course rules of engagement should be followed.

Innocent until proven guilty is a court thing. You seem to be selling 'you cannot apprehend or detain "protesters" even if you see them committing crimes'.

Pretty weak argument, that.

Friscobear said:

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Booray said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Booray said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Booray said:

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If Canada is representative, the "conservatives" in this country are no in favor of extra-judicial assassinations by the government for alleged property crimes.

But the liberals are the facists?

Holy cow.

Just wondering are there any right wingers out there who will step up and say-we should arrest rather that shoot people we suspect of committing a property crime?

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How many rioters have actually been shot?

For now, your post is just more evasion because you can't admit the violence is all from the Left, and the federal law enforcement is simply a long-overdue and necessary response.

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None, thankfully.

I am not evading anything. I said that the lawbreakers should be arrested and prosecuted rather than shot without trial.

Canada expressly disagrees-saying we need to start shooting our own citizens. You and now Doc apparently agree because you can't bring yourself to say Canada is wrong.

Its a pretty simple question: should we arrest and prosecute protesters who break the law or should we just shoot them?

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Individuals attacking law enforcement officers with deadly intent should be shot, arsonists caught in the act should be shot .

National guard units should have been sent to certain areas of Chicago, St Louis and Baltimore years ago.
There is simply no excuse in allowing dozens of innocent people....the majority of which are black....to be slaughtered each week.

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Does anyone else other than Mothra think these sort of "shoot'em on site: ideas are out of hand?

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Of course rules of engagement should be followed.

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If ya can't do the time, then don't do the crime

We're on edge of military "fixing" this situation!

I know that too

We live in military area and special ops has been made aware it could happen soon

That won't be pretty if it happens. That truly would be a "shooting fish in a barrel situation" if those killers are brought in

That would clean it up and out in 30 minutes, serious!

Booray said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Booray said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Booray said:

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If Canada is representative, the "conservatives" in this country are no in favor of extra-judicial assassinations by the government for alleged property crimes.

But the liberals are the facists?

Holy cow.

Just wondering are there any right wingers out there who will step up and say-we should arrest rather that shoot people we suspect of committing a property crime?

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How many rioters have actually been shot?

For now, your post is just more evasion because you can't admit the violence is all from the Left, and the federal law enforcement is simply a long-overdue and necessary response.

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None, thankfully.

I am not evading anything. I said that the lawbreakers should be arrested and prosecuted rather than shot without trial.

Canada expressly disagrees-saying we need to start shooting our own citizens. You and now Doc apparently agree because you can't bring yourself to say Canada is wrong.

Its a pretty simple question: should we arrest and prosecute protesters who break the law or should we just shoot them?

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Individuals attacking law enforcement officers with deadly intent should be shot, arsonists caught in the act should be shot .

National guard units should have been sent to certain areas of Chicago, St Louis and Baltimore years ago.
There is simply no excuse in allowing dozens of innocent people....the majority of which are black....to be slaughtered each week.

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The whole innocent until proven guilty thing is out the window I guess. Lot of respect for the Constitution there.

And don't twist my words. Any law enforcement officer who is being threatened with injury or sees someone else being threatened with injury has the right to use deadly force. But arsonists "caught in the act" should be shot is beyond disturbing.

I don't mind the national guard being called in for riots as long as it is the governor doing the calling. Otherwise you are throwing out Federalism on top of the right to trial. Routine law enforcement is not a good idea for the national guard. That is not what the sign up for, its not what they are trained for and it would creat coordination headaches on a massive scale.

Does anyone else other than Mothra think these sort of "shoot'em on site: ideas are out of hand?

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I would say arsonists caught in the act should be shot if and only if the police officer reasonably believes there's no other way to prevent the crime or prevent the arsonist from escaping. Don't know if that's what Canada's saying or not.

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Innocent until proven guilty is a court thing. You seem to be selling 'you cannot apprehend or detain "protesters" even if you see them committing crimes'.

Pretty weak argument, that.

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Where do you get this stuff? I have been crystal clear-lawbreakers should be arrested and prosecuted. Verbatim quotes from my posts in this thread:

Quote 1:

Lets try arresting them before shooting them. Rule of law and all.


And to be clear, many of these people should be arrested.

Quote 2;

My post clearly said that the right thing to do would be to arrest protesters who are breaking the law. To the extent mayors and DAs are not doing so, I condemn them.


Arresting and prosecuting is preferable to executing people...

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Just wondering are there any right wingers out there who will step up and say we should arrest rather that shoot people we suspect of committing a property crime?

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I am not evading anything. I said that the lawbreakers should be arrested and prosecuted rather than shot without trial.

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I said we should arrest and prosecute lawbreakers and condemned any mayor or DA who didn't do that. What more do you want?

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And don't twist my words. Any law enforcement officer who is being threatened with injury or sees someone else being threatened with injury has the right to use deadly force.

As a bonus, I agreed with Mothra that the protests are not peaceful and the media is misrepresenting them.

From all of that you get that I am arguing against detaining people who are seen committing a crime. Stupid doesn't begin to describe your conclusion.

Florda_mike said:

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Friscobear said:

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Booray said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Booray said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Booray said:

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If Canada is representative, the "conservatives" in this country are no in favor of extra-judicial assassinations by the government for alleged property crimes.

But the liberals are the facists?

Holy cow.

Just wondering are there any right wingers out there who will step up and say-we should arrest rather that shoot people we suspect of committing a property crime?

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How many rioters have actually been shot?

For now, your post is just more evasion because you can't admit the violence is all from the Left, and the federal law enforcement is simply a long-overdue and necessary response.

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None, thankfully.

I am not evading anything. I said that the lawbreakers should be arrested and prosecuted rather than shot without trial.

Canada expressly disagrees-saying we need to start shooting our own citizens. You and now Doc apparently agree because you can't bring yourself to say Canada is wrong.

Its a pretty simple question: should we arrest and prosecute protesters who break the law or should we just shoot them?

---

Individuals attacking law enforcement officers with deadly intent should be shot, arsonists caught in the act should be shot .

National guard units should have been sent to certain areas of Chicago, St Louis and Baltimore years ago.
There is simply no excuse in allowing dozens of innocent people....the majority of which are black....to be slaughtered each week.

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Does anyone else other than Mothra think these sort of "shoot'em on site: ideas are out of hand?

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Of course rules of engagement should be followed.

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If ya can't do the time, then don't do the crime

We're on edge of military "fixing" this situation!

I know that too

We live in military area and special ops has been made aware it could happen soon

That won't be pretty if it happens. That truly would be a "shooting fish in a barrel situation" if those killers are brought in

That would clean it up and out in 30 minutes, serious!

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** sigh **

No, we are not going there.

There are basically three possible situations to address here.

Best Case - a very few bad people are doing the major violence with some copycats playing at arson and assaults. In that case, the feds want to identify the bad actors, go get them and the FBI can manage that with the FTF.

Mid Case - classic mob violence, large groups of people doing bad things with some imported bad guys leading the way. A la 'Occupy' groups. In that case, load the teams up with bean bag rounds and tear gas to disperse crowds and make some stops to make it clear you will respond to violence. Pretty much what is happening now, with an emphasis on non-lethal force.

Worst case - long term gang violence, In that case, bring ATF and state police into the mix and make sure you brief media on "gang violence" so they understand this is a safety issue, not about protests. That takes the longest and is the most likely to need deadly force, but if needed it's vital to document the RICO aspects and have a solid evidence chain.

We are not going Somalia here.

I was clear, and caught you in multiple dishonest statements.

You could have apologized, maybe admitted you got a rise from other posts and got hot, but instead you posted that diarrhea in print.

Don't expect me to take you seriously in the future.

Oldbear83 said:

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I was clear, and caught you in multiple dishonest statements.

You could have apologized, maybe admitted you got a rise from other posts and got hot, but instead you posted that diarrhea in print.

Don't expect me to take you seriously in the future.

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What a farce. List the multiple dishonest statements.

I said on 6 occasions that lawbreakers should be arrested and prosecuted. I said that if any life was in jeopardy lethal force should be used.

You then accuse me of saying all the protesters should go free.

I provide you specific evidence of my statements and you call me a liar?

You are not even making any sense.

Booray said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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I was clear, and caught you in multiple dishonest statements.

You could have apologized, maybe admitted you got a rise from other posts and got hot, but instead you posted that diarrhea in print.

Don't expect me to take you seriously in the future.

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What a farce. List the multiple dishonest statements.

I said on 6 occasions that lawbreakers should be arrested and prosecuted. I said that if any life was in jeopardy lethal force should be used.

You then accuse me of saying all the prosecutors should go free.

I provide you specific evidence of my statements and you call me a liar?

You are not even making any sense.

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See my prior post, last sentence

Still stands

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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HuMcK said:

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The Portland Mayor was tear gassed in last nights protests/riots.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/portland-mayor-tear-gassed-amid-protests-over-federal-agents-11595499111

Does this mean the mayor was part of a riot in his own city?

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Ummm...Trump has a problem with self awareness at times, but I'm not sure I can recall a more idiotic lack of self and situational awareness than this guy. I'm thinking he's just looking to score points with the protester/riot folks.

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Can you go deeper on this comment? I don't see your point yet.

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Pretty self explanatory.

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Mayor attends a peaceful rally, gets teargassed. And this demonstrates a lack of self-awareness how? Considering you use Trump as the benchmark this one is not even close.

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A peaceful rally? You have got to be kidding me. I think Ron Paul would slap the living **** out of you if he ever got the chance.

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First of all, you have in the last few days confused Seattle and Portland.

Second, yes a peaceful rally. Was there violence caused by looters somewhere else? Maybe. But not where the mayor was. It was an unprovoked response.

Third, Ron Paul would laugh at your ignorance of liberty.

Mothra said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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HuMcK said:

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ATL Bear said:

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The Portland Mayor was tear gassed in last nights protests/riots.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/portland-mayor-tear-gassed-amid-protests-over-federal-agents-11595499111

Does this mean the mayor was part of a riot in his own city?

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Ummm...Trump has a problem with self awareness at times, but I'm not sure I can recall a more idiotic lack of self and situational awareness than this guy. I'm thinking he's just looking to score points with the protester/riot folks.

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Can you go deeper on this comment? I don't see your point yet.

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Pretty self explanatory.

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Mayor attends a peaceful rally, gets teargassed. And this demonstrates a lack of self-awareness how? Considering you use Trump as the benchmark this one is not even close.

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You talking about the same rally in which he was assaulted, spit on, yelled at, and had stuff thrown at him, before his security team got physical?

We watching the same videos?

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Possibly. Mine shows an unprovoked gassing, followed by the crowd taking it out on the mayor. What does yours show?

Booray said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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I was clear, and caught you in multiple dishonest statements.

You could have apologized, maybe admitted you got a rise from other posts and got hot, but instead you posted that diarrhea in print.

Don't expect me to take you seriously in the future.

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I provide you specific evidence of my statements and you call me a liar?

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Textbook Oldbear.

quash said:

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Booray said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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I was clear, and caught you in multiple dishonest statements.

You could have apologized, maybe admitted you got a rise from other posts and got hot, but instead you posted that diarrhea in print.

Don't expect me to take you seriously in the future.

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I provide you specific evidence of my statements and you call me a liar?

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Textbook Oldbear.

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Translation - 'Oldbear is right again, but I will never say so'.

quash said:

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Mothra said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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quash said:

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ATL Bear said:

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HuMcK said:

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ATL Bear said:

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The Portland Mayor was tear gassed in last nights protests/riots.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/portland-mayor-tear-gassed-amid-protests-over-federal-agents-11595499111

Does this mean the mayor was part of a riot in his own city?

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Ummm...Trump has a problem with self awareness at times, but I'm not sure I can recall a more idiotic lack of self and situational awareness than this guy. I'm thinking he's just looking to score points with the protester/riot folks.

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Can you go deeper on this comment? I don't see your point yet.

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Pretty self explanatory.

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Mayor attends a peaceful rally, gets teargassed. And this demonstrates a lack of self-awareness how? Considering you use Trump as the benchmark this one is not even close.

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You talking about the same rally in which he was assaulted, spit on, yelled at, and had stuff thrown at him, before his security team got physical?

We watching the same videos?

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Possibly. Mine shows an unprovoked gassing, followed by the crowd taking it out on the mayor. What does yours show?

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I saw the gassing (though I can't tell from the video if it was unprovoked - what led you to that conclusion?). And then I saw several videos of people crowding the Mayor, getting in his face, one throwing a water bottle at him, one that looked like she spit at him, and then his security violently pushing them away from him.

You might want to check out the rest of the videos.

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Booray said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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I was clear, and caught you in multiple dishonest statements.

You could have apologized, maybe admitted you got a rise from other posts and got hot, but instead you posted that diarrhea in print.

Don't expect me to take you seriously in the future.

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I provide you specific evidence of my statements and you call me a liar?

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Textbook Oldbear.

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Yep.

Booray said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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I was clear, and caught you in multiple dishonest statements.

You could have apologized, maybe admitted you got a rise from other posts and got hot, but instead you posted that diarrhea in print.

Don't expect me to take you seriously in the future.

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What a farce. List the multiple dishonest statements.

I said on 6 occasions that lawbreakers should be arrested and prosecuted. I said that if any life was in jeopardy lethal force should be used.

You then accuse me of saying all the protesters should go free.

I provide you specific evidence of my statements and you call me a liar?

You are not even making any sense.

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"There was truth and there was untruth, and if you clung to the truth even against the whole world, you were not mad."

I bet Trump would be pretty self-aware if he would send in the tanks, the bombers, the drones and take these *******s out of this world!!!

Oldbear83 said:

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Florda_mike said:

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Friscobear said:

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Booray said:

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Canada2017 said:

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Booray said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Booray said:

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If Canada is representative, the "conservatives" in this country are no in favor of extra-judicial assassinations by the government for alleged property crimes.

But the liberals are the facists?

Holy cow.

Just wondering are there any right wingers out there who will step up and say-we should arrest rather that shoot people we suspect of committing a property crime?

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How many rioters have actually been shot?

For now, your post is just more evasion because you can't admit the violence is all from the Left, and the federal law enforcement is simply a long-overdue and necessary response.

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None, thankfully.

I am not evading anything. I said that the lawbreakers should be arrested and prosecuted rather than shot without trial.

Canada expressly disagrees-saying we need to start shooting our own citizens. You and now Doc apparently agree because you can't bring yourself to say Canada is wrong.

Its a pretty simple question: should we arrest and prosecute protesters who break the law or should we just shoot them?

---

Individuals attacking law enforcement officers with deadly intent should be shot, arsonists caught in the act should be shot .

National guard units should have been sent to certain areas of Chicago, St Louis and Baltimore years ago.
There is simply no excuse in allowing dozens of innocent people....the majority of which are black....to be slaughtered each week.

---

Does anyone else other than Mothra think these sort of "shoot'em on site: ideas are out of hand?

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Of course rules of engagement should be followed.

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If ya can't do the time, then don't do the crime

We're on edge of military "fixing" this situation!

I know that too

We live in military area and special ops has been made aware it could happen soon

That won't be pretty if it happens. That truly would be a "shooting fish in a barrel situation" if those killers are brought in

That would clean it up and out in 30 minutes, serious!

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** sigh **

No, we are not going there.

There are basically three possible situations to address here.

Best Case - a very few bad people are doing the major violence with some copycats playing at arson and assaults. In that case, the feds want to identify the bad actors, go get them and the FBI can manage that with the FTF.

Mid Case - classic mob violence, large groups of people doing bad things with some imported bad guys leading the way. A la 'Occupy' groups. In that case, load the teams up with bean bag rounds and tear gas to disperse crowds and make some stops to make it clear you will respond to violence. Pretty much what is happening now, with an emphasis on non-lethal force.

Worst case - long term gang violence, In that case, bring ATF and state police into the mix and make sure you brief media on "gang violence" so they understand this is a safety issue, not about protests. That takes the longest and is the most likely to need deadly force, but if needed it's vital to document the RICO aspects and have a solid evidence chain.

We are not going Somalia here.

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Nope

Wrong

That's all I can say

But you're not even in ballpark on "worst case"

Your worst case is Little League

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I bet Trump would be pretty self-aware if he would send in the tanks, the bombers, the drones and take these *******s out of this world!!!

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Preach it brother

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Seriously what's wrong with these people

They need gone

Scum

Put them out of their miserable existence

I've had it with these far left loons. I have passed judgement that they need to eliminated like Ted Bundy!

Jack Bauer said:

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**** the Police, what kind of parent teaches a toddler to say that? Then thinks it is acceptable enough to be proud of it? Perfect example of where we've gone wrong as a society. Teaching children that these behaviors are acceptable and that it's okay to be disrespectful will never lead to good outcomes in life.

If you're mad at the situation and want it to change, there are much better ways to effect that change than teaching your children to use profanity and then give positive reinforcement for it. This just makes the parent look like a complete moron. And, no, I'm not just saying that because they're black. If they were white I'd be calling them white trash and low bred because they obviously aren't educated enough or sophisticated enough to express themselves without profanity.

I just don't understand where our morals have gone...

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Jack Bauer said:

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**** the Police, what kind of parent teaches a toddler to say that? Then thinks it is acceptable enough to be proud of it? Perfect example of where we've gone wrong as a society. Teaching children that these behaviors are acceptable and that it's okay to be disrespectful will never lead to good outcomes in life.

If you're mad at the situation and want it to change, there are much better ways to effect that change than teaching your children to use profanity and then give positive reinforcement for it. This just makes the parent look like a complete moron. And, no, I'm not just saying that because they're black. If they were white I'd be calling them white trash and low bred because they obviously aren't educated enough or sophisticated enough to express themselves without profanity.

I just don't understand where our morals have gone...

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Federal officers in rental vans are snatching citizens off the street without a warrant or probable cause and you're worried about parenting?

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Oso Pardo said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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**** the Police, what kind of parent teaches a toddler to say that? Then thinks it is acceptable enough to be proud of it? Perfect example of where we've gone wrong as a society. Teaching children that these behaviors are acceptable and that it's okay to be disrespectful will never lead to good outcomes in life.

If you're mad at the situation and want it to change, there are much better ways to effect that change than teaching your children to use profanity and then give positive reinforcement for it. This just makes the parent look like a complete moron. And, no, I'm not just saying that because they're black. If they were white I'd be calling them white trash and low bred because they obviously aren't educated enough or sophisticated enough to express themselves without profanity.

I just don't understand where our morals have gone...

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Federal officers in rental vans are snatching citizens off the street without a warrant or probable cause and you're worried about parenting?

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Since you seem to have such total disrespect and disdain for law enforcement, why haven't you joined the "peaceful" protesters? I would bet airfare to Portland is pretty cheap right now.

Show proof of this. Show the lack of probable cause. The video with the parent giving their a sign, and the language to go with it, is hard proof. Prove your claim. Amazing how disturbing that video is, and that the left will justify it.

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Show proof of this. Show the lack of probable cause. The video with the parent giving their a sign, and the language to go with it, is hard proof. Prove your claim. Amazing how disturbing that video is, and that the left will justify it.

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Congrats, you have just created your children to never trust law enforcement or white people. They are already learning to be a victim of their circumstance and to be bitter about any injustice or hardship that they meet.

quash said:

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**** the Police, what kind of parent teaches a toddler to say that? Then thinks it is acceptable enough to be proud of it? Perfect example of where we've gone wrong as a society. Teaching children that these behaviors are acceptable and that it's okay to be disrespectful will never lead to good outcomes in life.

If you're mad at the situation and want it to change, there are much better ways to effect that change than teaching your children to use profanity and then give positive reinforcement for it. This just makes the parent look like a complete moron. And, no, I'm not just saying that because they're black. If they were white I'd be calling them white trash and low bred because they obviously aren't educated enough or sophisticated enough to express themselves without profanity.

I just don't understand where our morals have gone...

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Federal officers in rental vans are snatching citizens off the street without a warrant or probable cause and you're worried about parenting?

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What evidence have you seen of this? I've heard the rumor, which appears to be propagated by liberals, but as of yet have seen no evidence it's actually true. One would think with the prevalence of cell phones, we would have at least one video supporting such a claim.

And let's not forget that many of the people making such claims also maintain that the protestors are "peaceful" despite ample evidence to the contrary.

Assaults on police with the intent to kill have to be stopped.

Arsonists destroying buildings and potentially killing people trapped inside have to be stopped.

These rat people have nothing to lose.

History has shown........ over and over...... that mob violence can only be stopped by force .