It was good enough for yall when the WAPO and NYT ran unsubstantiated stories and didnt bother running down any corroboration on Trump stories. What changed? Shoe on the other foot perhaps. I hope said shoe is run up Biden's caboose.HuMcK said:
It hasn't even been established the info is real yet, since the NYPost put apparently 0 effort into running down any corroboration whatsoever before their rush to print. It certainly matters if the people vouching for it are also lying about where it came from.
There are all kinds of red flags surrounding this laptop and its genuineness. First it was recieved by a shop owner that can't see (how fantastically convenient), now even that story has changed. And that might be good enough for y'all in the Trump echo chamber, but the rest of us have seen this song and dance before.
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Here is another example of circular journalism the Dems love to use. The same thing they did to push the Trump/Russia collusion story to get the Mueller investigation started and to take heat off Hillary/Biden & Obama.
So because the former high level Dem operatives at Facebook & Twitter are taking down the story so that proves the story is false? Is this Biden stooge for real?
So because the former high level Dem operatives at Facebook & Twitter are taking down the story so that proves the story is false? Is this Biden stooge for real?
yall need to send Rudy back down the garbage can for another one. this aint gonna work. the more you try, the worse it gets. twitter and FB for the most part won't allow it on their platforms. most mainstream media aren't buying it, and sane voters are not.
Where's the skepticism regarding the BS posted about Trump - especially when it's from anonymous sources?HuMcK said:
It hasn't even been established the info is real yet, since the NYPost put apparently 0 effort into running down any corroboration whatsoever before their rush to print. It certainly matters if the people vouching for it are also lying about where it came from.
There are all kinds of red flags surrounding this laptop and its genuineness. First it was recieved by a shop owner that can't see (how fantastically convenient), now even that story has changed. And that might be good enough for y'all in the Trump echo chamber, but the rest of us have seen this song and dance before.
You're such a clown
If he drops the receipts he claims he has, you're still going to vote Biden.ScruffyD said:
yall need to send Rudy back down the garbage can for another one. this aint gonna work. the more you try, the worse it gets. twitter and FB for the most part won't allow it on their platforms. most mainstream media aren't buying it, and sane voters are not.
That's pretty weak from the biden campaignriflebear said:
Here is another example of circular journalism the Dems love to use. The same thing they did to push the Trump/Russia collusion story to get the Mueller investigation started and to take heat off Hillary/Biden & Obama.
So because the former high level Dem operatives at Facebook & Twitter are taking down the story so that proves the story is false? Is this Biden stooge for real?
Par for the course bud.Rawhide said:That's pretty weak from the biden campaignriflebear said:
Here is another example of circular journalism the Dems love to use. The same thing they did to push the Trump/Russia collusion story to get the Mueller investigation started and to take heat off Hillary/Biden & Obama.
So because the former high level Dem operatives at Facebook & Twitter are taking down the story so that proves the story is false? Is this Biden stooge for real?
they aren't receipts when it is simply an amorphous pile of **** that some foreign agent gives Rudy who then gives it to Steve Bannon. maybe in your world.
it isn't going to change my vote because I am not a mindless dolt who just believes everything ring wing TV tells me.
oh the splendid irony of going after a candidate's children. Biden should, but is too decent to go there. most of them are legally prohibited from operating a charity, after stealing money from kid's with cancer, for one thing.
it isn't going to change my vote because I am not a mindless dolt who just believes everything ring wing TV tells me.
oh the splendid irony of going after a candidate's children. Biden should, but is too decent to go there. most of them are legally prohibited from operating a charity, after stealing money from kid's with cancer, for one thing.
Dont be so hard on yourself. You are not a dolt.ScruffyD said:
they aren't receipts when it is simply an amorphous pile of **** that some foreign agent gives Rudy who then gives it to Steve Bannon. maybe in your world.
it isn't going to change my vote because I am not a mindless dolt who just believes everything ring wing TV tells me.
oh the splendid irony of going after a candidate's children. Biden should, but is too decent to go there. most of them are legally prohibited from operating a charity, after stealing money from kid's with cancer, for one thing.
So Whistleblowers that hurt Biden are illegitimate, but whistleblowers that hurt Trump should get a medal and promotion?HuMcK said:
It hasn't even been established the info is real yet, since the NYPost put apparently 0 effort into running down any corroboration whatsoever before their rush to print. It certainly matters if the people vouching for it are also lying about where it came from.
There are all kinds of red flags surrounding this laptop and its genuineness. First it was recieved by a shop owner that can't see (how fantastically convenient), now even that story has changed. And that might be good enough for y'all in the Trump echo chamber, but the rest of us have seen this song and dance before.
Trump is polarizing, as all elections in recent memory have been, this one will be too.ScruffyD said:
Trump is popular in your echo chamber
He is done. Get your excuses and rationales in order. Or just wait for whatever Tucker spoon feeds you beginning in November.
Most rats are jumping off the ship. This last gasp is seen for what it is. But you have to look hard to see it. Because it is a joke to those outside of Looney Land.
It's a horse race, there are 9 states within the margin of error that can go either way, there will be no landslides in the popular vote and probably not in the electoral college either.
I hope we can all agree that on election night we pick a drink of our choice and a really nice steak to grill. Enjoy your drink and steak because it could be the last great meal you have for a while.Ursus Americanus said:Trump is polarizing, as all elections in recent memory have been, this one will be too.ScruffyD said:
Trump is popular in your echo chamber
He is done. Get your excuses and rationales in order. Or just wait for whatever Tucker spoon feeds you beginning in November.
Most rats are jumping off the ship. This last gasp is seen for what it is. But you have to look hard to see it. Because it is a joke to those outside of Looney Land.
It's a horse race, there are 9 states within the margin of error that can go either way, there will be no landslides in the popular vote and probably not in the electoral college either.
How has a journalist not tracked down Hunter and asked for a comment?
If this was a Trump son the entire press corp would be camped outside their families home right now.
It's shocking the media won't do their job to confirm if this story is legit or not - but I think their actions answer that very question.
If this was a Trump son the entire press corp would be camped outside their families home right now.
It's shocking the media won't do their job to confirm if this story is legit or not - but I think their actions answer that very question.
HuMcK said:
They can't even keep their stories straight for how they came to possess the laptop...
Call it now. The emails and pictures from the laptop are real/true or fake/false. Which is it?
Mr. Bearitto was banned by the cowardly site owners because he stated that U.S. battleships should not be named after weak victims like Emmett Till, like Robby suggested. Apparently the site owners want a ship named in their honor some day. ;)
you must be on another planet... early voter returns do not reflect polling at all. Trump gonna pull every state he got in 2016 and possibly a couple more...ScruffyD said:
Trump is popular in your echo chamber
He is done. Get your excuses and rationales in order. Or just wait for whatever Tucker spoon feeds you beginning in November.
Most rats are jumping off the ship. This last gasp is seen for what it is. But you have to look hard to see it. Because it is a joke to those outside of Looney Land.
Pics and video are likely real. For the emails, a meeting should be able to be corroborated so let's see it. The burden is on NYPost/Giuliani to show they are legit, so far they have produced only .pdf images created a year ago and nothing else, they didn't even ask the parties for comment or run down anything before printing.
We've seen Russia pair genuine documents with forged ones before, in the 2017 French elections. The provenance of the laptop itself is extremely shady, stories about where it came from already don't add up, and Giuliani readily admits working with sanctioned Russian spy Andrii Derkach (among others like Firtash, Parnas, and Fruman, all facing various charges). So far I see no reason to believe their far fetched story about it randomly appearing at a repair shop and not being picked up.
Let's say it's all completely legit, which is very much in question at present. I'm supposed to then vote to keep Jared and Ivanka, who Trump overruled investigators' objections to grant security clearance after literally saying he would never do that, in the White House and making 8 figures because Beau Biden made some money? Nah, pass. I'll take the guy the Russians are trying to beat, not the one they support.
We've seen Russia pair genuine documents with forged ones before, in the 2017 French elections. The provenance of the laptop itself is extremely shady, stories about where it came from already don't add up, and Giuliani readily admits working with sanctioned Russian spy Andrii Derkach (among others like Firtash, Parnas, and Fruman, all facing various charges). So far I see no reason to believe their far fetched story about it randomly appearing at a repair shop and not being picked up.
Let's say it's all completely legit, which is very much in question at present. I'm supposed to then vote to keep Jared and Ivanka, who Trump overruled investigators' objections to grant security clearance after literally saying he would never do that, in the White House and making 8 figures because Beau Biden made some money? Nah, pass. I'll take the guy the Russians are trying to beat, not the one they support.
HuMcK said:
Pics and video are likely real. For the emails, a meeting should be able to be corroborated so let's see it. The burden is on NYPost/Giuliani to show they are legit, so far they have produced only .pdf images created a year ago and nothing else, they didn't even ask the parties for comment or run down anything before printing.
We've seen Russia pair genuine documents with forged ones before, in the 2017 French elections. The provenance of the laptop itself is extremely shady, stories about where it came from already don't add up, and Giuliani readily admits working with sanctioned Russian spy Andrii Derkach (among others like Firtash, Parnas, and Fruman, all facing various charges). So far I see no reason to believe their far fetched story about it randomly appearing at a repair shop and not being picked up.
Let's say it's all completely legit, which is very much in question at present. I'm supposed to then vote to keep Jared and Ivanka, who Trump overruled investigators' objections to grant security clearance after literally saying he would never do that, in the White House and making 8 figures because Beau Biden made some money? Nah, pass. I'll take the guy the Russians are trying to beat, not the one they support.
Speaking of...
The guy obviously has problems, but he might be the first person ever to fall asleep with a crack pipe in his mouth. Seems more like an opium pipe kind of move.Doc Holliday said:
In one of the pictures he's asleep with a crack pipe in his mouth.
And there it is! It's the Russians! Well, sort of, it's the Russians that paid Biden lite.HuMcK said:HuMcK said:
Pics and video are likely real. For the emails, a meeting should be able to be corroborated so let's see it. The burden is on NYPost/Giuliani to show they are legit, so far they have produced only .pdf images created a year ago and nothing else, they didn't even ask the parties for comment or run down anything before printing.
We've seen Russia pair genuine documents with forged ones before, in the 2017 French elections. The provenance of the laptop itself is extremely shady, stories about where it came from already don't add up, and Giuliani readily admits working with sanctioned Russian spy Andrii Derkach (among others like Firtash, Parnas, and Fruman, all facing various charges). So far I see no reason to believe their far fetched story about it randomly appearing at a repair shop and not being picked up.
Let's say it's all completely legit, which is very much in question at present. I'm supposed to then vote to keep Jared and Ivanka, who Trump overruled investigators' objections to grant security clearance after literally saying he would never do that, in the White House and making 8 figures because Beau Biden made some money? Nah, pass. I'll take the guy the Russians are trying to beat, not the one they support.
Speaking of...
HuMcK said:
Pics and video are likely real. For the emails, a meeting should be able to be corroborated so let's see it. The burden is on NYPost/Giuliani to show they are legit, so far they have produced only .pdf images created a year ago and nothing else, they didn't even ask the parties for comment or run down anything before printing.
We've seen Russia pair genuine documents with forged ones before, in the 2017 French elections. The provenance of the laptop itself is extremely shady, stories about where it came from already don't add up, and Giuliani readily admits working with sanctioned Russian spy Andrii Derkach (among others like Firtash, Parnas, and Fruman, all facing various charges). So far I see no reason to believe their far fetched story about it randomly appearing at a repair shop and not being picked up.
Let's say it's all completely legit, which is very much in question at present. I'm supposed to then vote to keep Jared and Ivanka, who Trump overruled investigators' objections to grant security clearance after literally saying he would never do that, in the White House and making 8 figures because Beau Biden made some money? Nah, pass. I'll take the guy the Russians are trying to beat, not the one they support.
If it's real, your choice would be a proven criminal who is demonstrably corrupt and willing to use the second highest office in the land to enrich himself and his family through political favors for some of the worst actors on earth....or a guy who was falsely accused of doing what Biden actually did, but who is a jerk.....and who also brokered an historic Middle East peace deal.
That's your choice. If you believe the new evidence is true, you either vote for an Uber-corrupt lifelong politician or an a s s hole.
Mr. Bearitto was banned by the cowardly site owners because he stated that U.S. battleships should not be named after weak victims like Emmett Till, like Robby suggested. Apparently the site owners want a ship named in their honor some day. ;)
Hunter Biden 's lawyer heard about what he and the NY Post had and his lawyer called the computer shop and asked for Hunter's laptop back, thereby confirming its authenticity.
Boom.
Boom.
Ok. So from what you all are believing, Hunter Biden flew to NY with his laptop. Dropped it off at a repair shop to a blind repairman, and just forgot about them or left them.
The blind repairman looked somehow at the hard drives and gave them to the FBI. But before doing so he makes copies of the hard drive.
Deciding the FBI was deep state i guess, he contacts Rudy, who then took it from there and gave them to Steve Bannon.
And then here we are today
Is that right?
The blind repairman looked somehow at the hard drives and gave them to the FBI. But before doing so he makes copies of the hard drive.
Deciding the FBI was deep state i guess, he contacts Rudy, who then took it from there and gave them to Steve Bannon.
And then here we are today
Is that right?
You left out the trips he took with Daddy on the UNITED STATES OWNED AIRCRAFT while daddy was on official business on behalf of the UNITED STATES PEOPLE to cut all his deals.ScruffyD said:
Ok. So from what you all are believing, Hunter Biden flew to NY with his laptop. Dropped it off at a repair shop to a blind repairman, and just forgot about them or left them.
The blind repairman looked somehow at the hard drives and gave them to the FBI. But before doing so he makes copies of the hard drive.
Deciding the FBI was deep state i guess, he contacts Rudy, who then took it from there and gave them to Steve Bannon.
And then here we are today
Is that right?
Buddha Bear said:The guy obviously has problems, but he might be the first person ever to fall asleep with a crack pipe in his mouth. Seems more like an opium pipe kind of move.Doc Holliday said:
In one of the pictures he's asleep with a crack pipe in his mouth.
Actually, it's a meth pipe. Tells you a little more about the depth of Hunter's addictions.
They should release the pics of his hookers instead of the hookah.beerman said:Buddha Bear said:The guy obviously has problems, but he might be the first person ever to fall asleep with a crack pipe in his mouth. Seems more like an opium pipe kind of move.Doc Holliday said:
In one of the pictures he's asleep with a crack pipe in his mouth.
Actually, it's a meth pipe. Tells you a little more about the depth of Hunter's addictions.
As I recall early in Trump's presidency, everyone was singing his praises for his work in battling the opioid crisis.
Yet here we are now basking in the misfortune of someone's addiction - I guess because he is Joe Biden's son all compassion goes out the window.
It is very Christian of you all.
Sure, I get if his son was going to be in his Cabinet that makes him fair game and all. But I have a hard time believing that is the case even in the best of circumstances.
At any rate, good job at sucking as humans.
Yet here we are now basking in the misfortune of someone's addiction - I guess because he is Joe Biden's son all compassion goes out the window.
It is very Christian of you all.
Sure, I get if his son was going to be in his Cabinet that makes him fair game and all. But I have a hard time believing that is the case even in the best of circumstances.
At any rate, good job at sucking as humans.
Yes we should not be making fun of him for sucking on that glass donkey. But his daddy has expressed multiple times how proud he is of his son for kicking the habit and getting off of drugs. It appears he has relapsed. We should not make fun of him for it but we should console him and comfort him. He probably turned to drugs to numb the pain of losing his mom and sister at such a young age and used the drugs to fill that void. Poor fella.ScruffyD said:
As I recall early in Trump's presidency, everyone was singing his praises for his work in battling the opioid crisis.
Yet here we are now basking in the misfortune of someone's addiction - I guess because he is Joe Biden's son all compassion goes out the window.
It is very Christian of you all.
Sure, I get if his son was going to be in his Cabinet that makes him fair game and all. But I have a hard time believing that is the case even in the best of circumstances.
At any rate, good job at sucking as humans.
Dude...there's a HUGE difference between prescribed pain killers turning into an addiction and buying meth/crack on the black market and making the choice to take it.ScruffyD said:
As I recall early in Trump's presidency, everyone was singing his praises for his work in battling the opioid crisis.
Yet here we are now basking in the misfortune of someone's addiction - I guess because he is Joe Biden's son all compassion goes out the window.
It is very Christian of you all.
Sure, I get if his son was going to be in his Cabinet that makes him fair game and all. But I have a hard time believing that is the case even in the best of circumstances.
At any rate, good job at sucking as humans.
Good god.
Oh right. Thanks for knowing the line here.
What is it if you were not prescribed the pain killers but you abuse them and bought them on the street, like crack? Is that worthy of your compassion? Please tell us how it works benevolent one.
What is it if you were not prescribed the pain killers but you abuse them and bought them on the street, like crack? Is that worthy of your compassion? Please tell us how it works benevolent one.
Doctors prescribe opioids under the guise that you will be ok and that it's a perfectly sane option and then it leads to dependency and addiction which leads to buying it on the street.ScruffyD said:
Oh right. Thanks for knowing the line here.
What is it if you were not prescribed the pain killers but you abuse them and bought them on the street, like crack? Is that worthy of your compassion? Please tell us how it works benevolent one.
You can't get a prescription for crack...you literally have to make the choice to use it while knowing it's a horrible and deadly drug.
yes and in the real world, when you don't have your head lodged up your own ass, you realize that those same drugs can be purchased on the street, without a scrip. and they can be abused just as easily as crack, heroin, you name it. so was just making sure where compassion is warranted and where it is not.
especially when it involves someone who really has nothing to do with a presidential race, other than I guess being born into the wrong family.
if you abuse a prescription, you are worthy of compassion.
if you buy crack on the street, or the same opioids on the street but without a prescription, I suppose you are not then.
especially when it involves someone who really has nothing to do with a presidential race, other than I guess being born into the wrong family.
if you abuse a prescription, you are worthy of compassion.
if you buy crack on the street, or the same opioids on the street but without a prescription, I suppose you are not then.