Covid 19 - now what?

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

Booray said:

midgett said:

This study had SCIENTISTS looking at blood from donors in December 2019. About 2% had antibodies for Covid 19.

This suggests Covid 19 was in the US prior to January 2020. As Alex Berenson tweeted, "remember how the hospitals were overrun last year?"

Serologic testing of U.S. blood donations to identify SARS-CoV-2-reactive antibodies: December 2019-January 2020 | Clinical Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic (oup.com)

Covid 19 is a serious and dangerous virus for old people and those with comorbidities. Otherwise, especially for the under 45 and even under 60 crowd, this is not a high risk virus but similar to a flu season.

In before Truett says we need to shutdown the world to protect those at risk from us. No, they should isolate as, unfortunately, many in ASLs are forced to do.
You are correct on the facts, but I do not follow the logic.

According to the CDC. 20.5% of COVID-involved deaths happen to people age 65 or younger (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm). We are looking at about 325,000 total deaths in 9 months, so that would be a little over 60,000 deaths under age 65. That would be roughly equivalent to a really bad flu year.

But... those numbers happened only after extraordinary efforts to contain the virus. If we just isolated the most at-risk, our case numbers among the younger group would be enormous. Even assuming the medical system could handle the increase (it could not) the death numbers in the under age 65 population would rise significantly. In essence, you are using the relative success of our restrictions (health wise) to argue that we should abandon the restrictions.

That does not take into account the huge logistical difficulties of "isolating" the at-risk during a period in which case counts would be dramatically higher,

There is just no easy answer here. Unfortunately, we are making it even more difficult to manage by rejecting common sense precautions.
I thought we were about at 275,000 deaths not 325,000. Way too many either way.
325,000 is what I think it will be by end of year, starting in March, so 9 months.
Forest Bueller_bf
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Booray said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

Booray said:

midgett said:

This study had SCIENTISTS looking at blood from donors in December 2019. About 2% had antibodies for Covid 19.

This suggests Covid 19 was in the US prior to January 2020. As Alex Berenson tweeted, "remember how the hospitals were overrun last year?"

Serologic testing of U.S. blood donations to identify SARS-CoV-2-reactive antibodies: December 2019-January 2020 | Clinical Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic (oup.com)

Covid 19 is a serious and dangerous virus for old people and those with comorbidities. Otherwise, especially for the under 45 and even under 60 crowd, this is not a high risk virus but similar to a flu season.

In before Truett says we need to shutdown the world to protect those at risk from us. No, they should isolate as, unfortunately, many in ASLs are forced to do.
You are correct on the facts, but I do not follow the logic.

According to the CDC. 20.5% of COVID-involved deaths happen to people age 65 or younger (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm). We are looking at about 325,000 total deaths in 9 months, so that would be a little over 60,000 deaths under age 65. That would be roughly equivalent to a really bad flu year.

But... those numbers happened only after extraordinary efforts to contain the virus. If we just isolated the most at-risk, our case numbers among the younger group would be enormous. Even assuming the medical system could handle the increase (it could not) the death numbers in the under age 65 population would rise significantly. In essence, you are using the relative success of our restrictions (health wise) to argue that we should abandon the restrictions.

That does not take into account the huge logistical difficulties of "isolating" the at-risk during a period in which case counts would be dramatically higher,

There is just no easy answer here. Unfortunately, we are making it even more difficult to manage by rejecting common sense precautions.
I thought we were about at 275,000 deaths not 325,000. Way too many either way.
325,000 is what I think it will be by end of year, starting in March, so 9 months.
Got it. Way too many.
wuzzybear
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Before you go down the Covid rabbit hole listen to this then make sense of it:

Making Sense of the Madness | AMP (americanmediaperiscope.net)
wuzzybear
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Listen to the video titled VAX, NANOCUBES...
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