Canada2017 said:
whiterock said:
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whiterock said:
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So we agree that Trump isn't first-rate. Why lose with him again & again?
You seem to be assuming Trump will be the nominee. Just so we are clear, I don't want Trump for the nominee, but need to see a quality candidate to support, and as my last post says, there are a number I can support.
With that said, under absolutely no circumstances would I support a Democrat, and that means if Trump is the nominee, I will support him because, warts and all, Trump is still far better than letting a Democrat win.
The people trying to deny Trump the opportunity to run for office, by the way, are violating the Constitution and are IMO a greater threat to our Republic than anything Trump has done or said.
The best solution is for voters to take him out, not some judicial process.
When Dems uncover dirt on him you guys cling tighter to him & he releases another trading card
Interesting point you raise here.
If Trump is such a bad candidate, why do Dems work so hard to stop him by non-electoral means?
Why not just stand back and let him run? If his endorsements really have been a kiss of death, why not work to keep the guy alive?
Could the opposite in fact be more true? That they are afraid of him because of his populist appeal? That in fact he worries them more than any other GOP candidate?
LOL
Almost appreciate your fanatical support for the old fat guy.
Pointing out the weakness in arguments against him is not supporting him. It's just pointing out the many weaknesses in the arguments against him, chief among which is that replacing him on the ticket is the only thing we need to do to win.
If he is such a loser, why aren't they helping him the way they did Bolduc in NH?
Why are they not ignoring him and boring in on the obvious successor = DeSantis?
I mean, if Trump is already toast, why waste money attacking him?
Why not start in now on RDS?
Sure , sure .
Who is a bigger Trump supporter than you within the cozy confines of this message board ?
the neverTrumpers dominate the narrative here, amid a general atmosphere of unease at what to do about Trump, which generally reflects the news narratives across the range of media outlets.
My posts are pretty consistently saying that it's not entirely clear who will be the best candidate for us in 2024, that Trump is not as bad as the current narrative suggests and not only could be electable, but might actually end up being our best chance. That is not the same as shamelessly promoting him. Just noting sober analysis. His polling is temporal, at a nadir in a 60 day period of relentless negativity about him. It is not clear where they will go from here. He's been durable before and could easily bounce back to where he was for most of the last two years - running slightly ahead of Biden. that's not hucksterism. that's right down the center line. At some point, narratives will work to his favor, and his numbers should reflect that.
I've also noted that I really like RDS. I noted him here before the 2020 election as the obvious front runner to the post-Trump GOP. Since then, he's executed flawlessly, and put in a spellbinding performance in the mid-terms, for reasons which I suspect address the one thing I've harped on as the largest part of the mid-term disappointment - he has a solution to our mail-in voting problem. But all of that positive said, questions still remain. He's got lower name ID. He's not been on the national stage. He's not been subjected to the kind of partisan proctology that Trump (or any other national candidate) has. We don't know how he will fare. I suspect he'll survive, but also suspect that his favorables and polling advantages will subside somewhat in the coming year. Democrats will see to that.
So I'm no Trumpster. I'm just the guy who refuses to join the "ding-dong the witch is dead" parade because I think it's premature. Would I prefer to avoid this and all debates about Trump? Sure. They're tedious. But they're the devil I know. Not entirely clear that the RDS briar patch will end up any more hospitable than the Trump briar patch, because it is just too early to tell on RDS. But I do like what I see.
My last assessment was that the Trump-RDS primary race was 50-50, with RDS having more upside than Trump. That fits. Polling is ambivalent, reflecting that pollsters do not know exactly what the primary electorate will look like and are not polling identical universes. That's actually a good sign. There's no way any reasonable analyst could stand 14-15 months out from a primary and see everything needed to know to lay out an analysis that had a high degree of reliability. Which is exactly my point. It is the neverTrumpers who are the big hucksters....promoting and spinning everything to suit their narrative. Pointing out the obvious holes is not Trumpism. It's just good analytical discipline.
