Interview with Ashli Babbitt's husband

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Mothra
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Your questions was why one officer was revealed and the other was not. One was a local policeman and the local police district followed their policy. It was written well before the incident. The other was a federal officer and they followed their policy, which was written well before the incident. There was no double standard.

Both cases wee tried in court.


Actually, most police depts. have a policy of NOT identifying the police officer until there has been an internal investigation, and in some cases, a grand jury convened to decide whether to charge the officer, if there is enough evidence that he/she committed a crime. This has been pretty much universal for years among depts. across the U.S. Now, many local municipalities are bucking their own depts.' internal rules.

So the question remains a legitimate one: why are local municipalities violating internal policies and procedures to identify those who kill black people, but this police officer at issue remains unnamed.

It does make anyone with a hint of intellectual honesty wonder if this would be different if the victim had been black, and the officer white, instead of just the opposite.
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Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
Not sure we need to be comparing ourselves to the Turkish govt.
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Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self Defence
Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.

Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.
So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?
It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.
So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.
They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.
Seems to me some federal buildings and law enforcement buildings were "breached" in the past year. Why were none of those unarmed protesters gunned down?
I wouldn't have shed any tears over it. IMO they've been very lenient with both sides. The Capitol riot was probably a little more urgent situation since civilian legislators were at risk.
Agree with your first two sentences. Blue star. But I do not agree that elected officials lives are more important than the lives of those in law enforcement. All lives matter.
I don't think the politicians are more important, but the Capitol police have taken on a duty to protect them. The risk to their own lives isn't their only immediate concern like it is for an LEO defending an empty courthouse. That's part of what this officer had to consider when he saw the likelihood of that door being breached and all those men getting through.
Don't disagree with this, and understand why this woman was shot. I agree it was justified.

The decision not to name the officer, on the other hand, when it seems all officers involved in justified shootings have been named as of late, is perplexing.
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self Defence
Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.

Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.
So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?
It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.
So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.
They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.
Seems to me some federal buildings and law enforcement buildings were "breached" in the past year. Why were none of those unarmed protesters gunned down?
I wouldn't have shed any tears over it. IMO they've been very lenient with both sides. The Capitol riot was probably a little more urgent situation since civilian legislators were at risk.
Agree with your first two sentences. Blue star. But I do not agree that elected officials lives are more important than the lives of those in law enforcement. All lives matter.
I don't think the politicians are more important, but the Capitol police have taken on a duty to protect them. The risk to their own lives isn't their only immediate concern like it is for an LEO defending an empty courthouse. That's part of what this officer had to consider when he saw the likelihood of that door being breached and all those men getting through.

The decision not to name the officer, on the other hand, when it seems all officers involved in justified shootings have been named as of late, is perplexing.
I agree
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
Not sure we need to be comparing ourselves to the Turkish govt.
It's just an example of the fact that police do get involved.
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
Not sure we need to be comparing ourselves to the Turkish govt.
It's just an example of the fact that police do get involved.
Well, what we also know is that the Turkish govt has also used the crackdown to jail for years political opponents that may not have been involved in any coup. The UN has been calling for their release for years.

Unfortunately, what's going on here may not be too dissimilar in some circumstances.
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Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self Defence
Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.

Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.
So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?
It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.
So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.
They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.
Seems to me some federal buildings and law enforcement buildings were "breached" in the past year. Why were none of those unarmed protesters gunned down?
I wouldn't have shed any tears over it. IMO they've been very lenient with both sides. The Capitol riot was probably a little more urgent situation since civilian legislators were at risk.
Agree with your first two sentences. Blue star. But I do not agree that elected officials lives are more important than the lives of those in law enforcement. All lives matter.
I don't think the politicians are more important, but the Capitol police have taken on a duty to protect them. The risk to their own lives isn't their only immediate concern like it is for an LEO defending an empty courthouse. That's part of what this officer had to consider when he saw the likelihood of that door being breached and all those men getting through.
Don't disagree with this, and understand why this woman was shot. I agree it was justified.

The decision not to name the officer, on the other hand, when it seems all officers involved in justified shootings have been named as of late, is perplexing.
Local departments seem to be going the extra mile to avoid riots. In this case that was probably less of a concern than a targeted attack on the officer.
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Mothra said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Your questions was why one officer was revealed and the other was not. One was a local policeman and the local police district followed their policy. It was written well before the incident. The other was a federal officer and they followed their policy, which was written well before the incident. There was no double standard.

Both cases wee tried in court.


Actually, most police depts. have a policy of NOT identifying the police officer until there has been an internal investigation, and in some cases, a grand jury convened to decide whether to charge the officer, if there is enough evidence that he/she committed a crime. This has been pretty much universal for years among depts. across the U.S. Now, many local municipalities are bucking their own depts.' internal rules.

So the question remains a legitimate one: why are local municipalities violating internal policies and procedures to identify those who kill black people, but this police officer at issue remains unnamed.

It does make anyone with a hint of intellectual honesty wonder if this would be different if the victim had been black, and the officer white, instead of just the opposite.
Different local police departments have different policies. Do you have proof local police departments are violating their own policies? There is a difference between local policies and federal policies.
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Sam Lowry said:

Mothra said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self Defence
Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.

Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.
So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?
It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.
So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.
They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.
Seems to me some federal buildings and law enforcement buildings were "breached" in the past year. Why were none of those unarmed protesters gunned down?
I wouldn't have shed any tears over it. IMO they've been very lenient with both sides. The Capitol riot was probably a little more urgent situation since civilian legislators were at risk.
Agree with your first two sentences. Blue star. But I do not agree that elected officials lives are more important than the lives of those in law enforcement. All lives matter.
I don't think the politicians are more important, but the Capitol police have taken on a duty to protect them. The risk to their own lives isn't their only immediate concern like it is for an LEO defending an empty courthouse. That's part of what this officer had to consider when he saw the likelihood of that door being breached and all those men getting through.
Don't disagree with this, and understand why this woman was shot. I agree it was justified.

The decision not to name the officer, on the other hand, when it seems all officers involved in justified shootings have been named as of late, is perplexing.
Local departments seem to be going the extra mile to avoid riots. In this case that was probably less of a concern than a targeted attack on the officer.
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So targeted attacks on the officer were not a concern in the other instances?
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I keep up with what is happening from objective news sources as opposed Nexmax, Oan, Alex Jones, and Fox. Some of it is literally the same antisemitic fascist rhetoric repackaged that was circulated in Germany. You should pay attention to where the political rhetoric from the far right is coming. The misinformation circulated within the community is a sereious problem. It gets modified, repeated and works its way into mainstream of the R party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8chan
A lot of misinformation coming the left wing wackos. Hope you keep an eye are those snowflakes too

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Quote:

I keep up with what is happening from objective news sources as opposed Nexmax, Oan, Alex Jones, and Fox. Some of it is literally the same antisemitic fascist rhetoric repackaged that was circulated in Germany. You should pay attention to where the political rhetoric from the far right is coming. The misinformation circulated within the community is a sereious problem. It gets modified, repeated and works its way into mainstream of the R party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8chan
A lot of misinformation coming the left wing wackos. Hope you keep an eye are those snowflakes too


Absolutely. The far left is pretty bad. It's just that lately they're being upstaged by the extreme right.
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TexasScientist said:

Rawhide said:

Quote:

I keep up with what is happening from objective news sources as opposed Nexmax, Oan, Alex Jones, and Fox. Some of it is literally the same antisemitic fascist rhetoric repackaged that was circulated in Germany. You should pay attention to where the political rhetoric from the far right is coming. The misinformation circulated within the community is a sereious problem. It gets modified, repeated and works its way into mainstream of the R party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8chan
A lot of misinformation coming the left wing wackos. Hope you keep an eye are those snowflakes too


Absolutely. The far left is pretty bad. It's just that lately they're being upstaged by the extreme right.
The burning of buildings, the assaults on Trump supporters, the lies in the media (like Nick Sandman), the destruction of city blocks, the riots, the looting of businesses (black businesses) at that.... no, the left hasn't been upstaged by anyone.
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C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.
With no firearms among them that would have been a long row to hoe.

More like a bunch of goofballs caught up in the moment. Could they have hurt people, of course. Did they have any chance or even possibility of overthrowing anything, that notion is the creation of a very slanted point of view.
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Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

Rawhide said:

Quote:

I keep up with what is happening from objective news sources as opposed Nexmax, Oan, Alex Jones, and Fox. Some of it is literally the same antisemitic fascist rhetoric repackaged that was circulated in Germany. You should pay attention to where the political rhetoric from the far right is coming. The misinformation circulated within the community is a sereious problem. It gets modified, repeated and works its way into mainstream of the R party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8chan
A lot of misinformation coming the left wing wackos. Hope you keep an eye are those snowflakes too


Absolutely. The far left is pretty bad. It's just that lately they're being upstaged by the extreme right.
The burning of buildings, the assaults on Trump supporters, the lies in the media (like Nick Sandman), the destruction of city blocks, the riots, the looting of businesses (black businesses) at that.... no, the left hasn't been upstaged by anyone.
Good grief the leftist had an multi block zone of anarchy that went on for days. They were trying to overthrow local government. They were successful for a while too.
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Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
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ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
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TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
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TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
Right. Of course Trump didn't confirm or deny it, but he did lend it credibility by promoting Q-related material many times.
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Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
What about the obsession that drove Trump supporters to attack the Capitol? Anything unhealthy about that?
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Sam Lowry said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
What about the obsession that drove Trump supporters to attack the Capitol? Anything unhealthy about that?
I'm a Trump supporter. I wasn't obsessed with attacking the capitol building, nor did I....and I'll bet the vast majority of Trump supporters isn't and didn't.

I'd even wager that the majority of Trump supporters in Washington DC on that day, never heard of Q
Sam Lowry
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Rawhide said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
What about the obsession that drove Trump supporters to attack the Capitol? Anything unhealthy about that?
I'm a Trump supporter. I wasn't obsessed with attacking the capitol building, nor did I....and I'll bet the vast majority of Trump supporters isn't and didn't.

I'd even wager that the majority of Trump supporters in Washington DC on that day, never heard of Q
I'd wager they've heard of Michael Flynn:
Quote:

Kelli Ward, the chair of Arizona's Republican Party, urged President Donald Trump to "cross the Rubicon" in a Saturday tweet, referencing the historical act by Julius Caesar which led to the Roman civil war and Caesar becoming a dictator. Retired General Michael Flynn, who was recently pardoned by Trump, shared Ward's tweet Sunday.
Rawhide
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Sam Lowry said:

Rawhide said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
What about the obsession that drove Trump supporters to attack the Capitol? Anything unhealthy about that?
I'm a Trump supporter. I wasn't obsessed with attacking the capitol building, nor did I....and I'll bet the vast majority of Trump supporters isn't and didn't.

I'd even wager that the majority of Trump supporters in Washington DC on that day, never heard of Q
I'd wager they've heard of Michael Flynn:
Quote:

Kelli Ward, the chair of Arizona's Republican Party, urged President Donald Trump to "cross the Rubicon" in a Saturday tweet, referencing the historical act by Julius Caesar which led to the Roman civil war and Caesar becoming a dictator. Retired General Michael Flynn, who was recently pardoned by Trump, shared Ward's tweet Sunday.

I would even bet the majority of those supporters don't actively look at twitter
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Rawhide said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rawhide said:

Sam Lowry said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
What about the obsession that drove Trump supporters to attack the Capitol? Anything unhealthy about that?
I'm a Trump supporter. I wasn't obsessed with attacking the capitol building, nor did I....and I'll bet the vast majority of Trump supporters isn't and didn't.

I'd even wager that the majority of Trump supporters in Washington DC on that day, never heard of Q
I'd wager they've heard of Michael Flynn:
Quote:

Kelli Ward, the chair of Arizona's Republican Party, urged President Donald Trump to "cross the Rubicon" in a Saturday tweet, referencing the historical act by Julius Caesar which led to the Roman civil war and Caesar becoming a dictator. Retired General Michael Flynn, who was recently pardoned by Trump, shared Ward's tweet Sunday.

I would even bet the majority of those supporters don't actively look at twitter
Neither do I.
TexasScientist
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Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
It's something to be concerned about, and you should pay closer attention. Look no further than the sea of Q signs, slogans and clothing in the Jan. 6th crowd. It's not so much the crazy Q and spin off conspiracies, but the willingness of a large and gullible fraction of people to believe and embrace parts if not all of this craziness. Michael Flynn was reciting Q slogans. The same with Roger Stone and others. They were exploiting and encouraging extremism and extremist ideology, and Trump went to the lip of embracing Q. You should have been at the Texas State Republican Convention and you would have seen all you wanted of Q. It's a cult of conspiracy and fringe beliefs that has a foot hold in the RP. The RPT in Texas is divided, and Chairman Allen West, who was run out of Fl Republican politics, is playing to the crowd for his bid to replace Abbott as governor. If Republicans continue down this self destructive path of conciliation, encouragement, and endorsement, Democrats will be in control for the foreseeable future.
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Carlos Cruz
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TexasScientist said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
It's something to be concerned about, and you should pay closer attention. Look no further than the sea of Q signs, slogans and clothing in the Jan. 6th crowd. Michael Flynn was reciting Q slogans. The same with Roger Stone and others. They were exploiting and encouraging extremism and extremist ideology, and Trump went to the lip of embracing Q. You should have been at the Texas State Republican Convention and you would have seen all you wanted of Q. It's a cult of conspiracy and fringe beliefs that has foot hold in the RP. The RPT in Texas is divided, and Chairman Allen West, who was run out of Fl politics, is playing to the crowd for his bid to replace Abbott as governor. If Republicans continue down this self destructive path of conciliation, encouragement, and endorsement, Democrats will be in control for the foreseeable future.
I bet you think Andy Kaufman was a threat to the Republic as well, don't you?
TexasScientist
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Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
It's something to be concerned about, and you should pay closer attention. Look no further than the sea of Q signs, slogans and clothing in the Jan. 6th crowd. Michael Flynn was reciting Q slogans. The same with Roger Stone and others. They were exploiting and encouraging extremism and extremist ideology, and Trump went to the lip of embracing Q. You should have been at the Texas State Republican Convention and you would have seen all you wanted of Q. It's a cult of conspiracy and fringe beliefs that has foot hold in the RP. The RPT in Texas is divided, and Chairman Allen West, who was run out of Fl politics, is playing to the crowd for his bid to replace Abbott as governor. If Republicans continue down this self destructive path of conciliation, encouragement, and endorsement, Democrats will be in control for the foreseeable future.
I bet you think Andy Kaufman was a threat to the Republic as well, don't you?
Ha Ha. Lame attempt at apples and oranges.
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TexasScientist said:

Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
It's something to be concerned about, and you should pay closer attention. Look no further than the sea of Q signs, slogans and clothing in the Jan. 6th crowd. Michael Flynn was reciting Q slogans. The same with Roger Stone and others. They were exploiting and encouraging extremism and extremist ideology, and Trump went to the lip of embracing Q. You should have been at the Texas State Republican Convention and you would have seen all you wanted of Q. It's a cult of conspiracy and fringe beliefs that has foot hold in the RP. The RPT in Texas is divided, and Chairman Allen West, who was run out of Fl politics, is playing to the crowd for his bid to replace Abbott as governor. If Republicans continue down this self destructive path of conciliation, encouragement, and endorsement, Democrats will be in control for the foreseeable future.
I bet you think Andy Kaufman was a threat to the Republic as well, don't you?
Ha Ha. Lame attempt at apples and oranges.
Your concern about Q and those who follow Q are as ludicrous as Q.
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Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
It's something to be concerned about, and you should pay closer attention. Look no further than the sea of Q signs, slogans and clothing in the Jan. 6th crowd. Michael Flynn was reciting Q slogans. The same with Roger Stone and others. They were exploiting and encouraging extremism and extremist ideology, and Trump went to the lip of embracing Q. You should have been at the Texas State Republican Convention and you would have seen all you wanted of Q. It's a cult of conspiracy and fringe beliefs that has foot hold in the RP. The RPT in Texas is divided, and Chairman Allen West, who was run out of Fl politics, is playing to the crowd for his bid to replace Abbott as governor. If Republicans continue down this self destructive path of conciliation, encouragement, and endorsement, Democrats will be in control for the foreseeable future.
I bet you think Andy Kaufman was a threat to the Republic as well, don't you?
Ha Ha. Lame attempt at apples and oranges.
Your concern about Q and those who follow Q are as ludicrous as Q.
Except there are enough of them that they are influencing RP policy and RP office holders with their conspiracy ideology and untruths. That's the problem.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
Carlos Cruz
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TexasScientist said:

Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
It's something to be concerned about, and you should pay closer attention. Look no further than the sea of Q signs, slogans and clothing in the Jan. 6th crowd. Michael Flynn was reciting Q slogans. The same with Roger Stone and others. They were exploiting and encouraging extremism and extremist ideology, and Trump went to the lip of embracing Q. You should have been at the Texas State Republican Convention and you would have seen all you wanted of Q. It's a cult of conspiracy and fringe beliefs that has foot hold in the RP. The RPT in Texas is divided, and Chairman Allen West, who was run out of Fl politics, is playing to the crowd for his bid to replace Abbott as governor. If Republicans continue down this self destructive path of conciliation, encouragement, and endorsement, Democrats will be in control for the foreseeable future.
I bet you think Andy Kaufman was a threat to the Republic as well, don't you?
Ha Ha. Lame attempt at apples and oranges.
Your concern about Q and those who follow Q are as ludicrous as Q.
Except there are enough of them that they are influencing RP policy and RP office holders with their conspiracy ideology and untruths. That's the problem.


Q is watching you.
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TexasScientist said:

Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
It's something to be concerned about, and you should pay closer attention. Look no further than the sea of Q signs, slogans and clothing in the Jan. 6th crowd. Michael Flynn was reciting Q slogans. The same with Roger Stone and others. They were exploiting and encouraging extremism and extremist ideology, and Trump went to the lip of embracing Q. You should have been at the Texas State Republican Convention and you would have seen all you wanted of Q. It's a cult of conspiracy and fringe beliefs that has foot hold in the RP. The RPT in Texas is divided, and Chairman Allen West, who was run out of Fl politics, is playing to the crowd for his bid to replace Abbott as governor. If Republicans continue down this self destructive path of conciliation, encouragement, and endorsement, Democrats will be in control for the foreseeable future.
I bet you think Andy Kaufman was a threat to the Republic as well, don't you?
Ha Ha. Lame attempt at apples and oranges.
Your concern about Q and those who follow Q are as ludicrous as Q.
Except there are enough of them that they are influencing RP policy and RP office holders with their conspiracy ideology and untruths. That's the problem.
Is AOC/Squad influencing DP policy and DP office holders?
TexasScientist
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Osodecentx said:

TexasScientist said:

Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
It's something to be concerned about, and you should pay closer attention. Look no further than the sea of Q signs, slogans and clothing in the Jan. 6th crowd. Michael Flynn was reciting Q slogans. The same with Roger Stone and others. They were exploiting and encouraging extremism and extremist ideology, and Trump went to the lip of embracing Q. You should have been at the Texas State Republican Convention and you would have seen all you wanted of Q. It's a cult of conspiracy and fringe beliefs that has foot hold in the RP. The RPT in Texas is divided, and Chairman Allen West, who was run out of Fl politics, is playing to the crowd for his bid to replace Abbott as governor. If Republicans continue down this self destructive path of conciliation, encouragement, and endorsement, Democrats will be in control for the foreseeable future.
I bet you think Andy Kaufman was a threat to the Republic as well, don't you?
Ha Ha. Lame attempt at apples and oranges.
Your concern about Q and those who follow Q are as ludicrous as Q.
Except there are enough of them that they are influencing RP policy and RP office holders with their conspiracy ideology and untruths. That's the problem.
Is AOC/Squad influencing DP policy and DP office holders?
Can't you see the influence in the $6 trillion of proposals. This is the biggest cradle to grave entitlement proposal since FDR, or Johnson. We have extremists influencing both ends of the spectrum.
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Rawhide
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TexasScientist said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
It's something to be concerned about, and you should pay closer attention. Look no further than the sea of Q signs, slogans and clothing in the Jan. 6th crowd. It's not so much the crazy Q and spin off conspiracies, but the willingness of a large and gullible fraction of people to believe and embrace parts if not all of this craziness.
You could easily be speaking of the liberals and their handlers like CNN, MSNBC, NYT, Twitter, etc....
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Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
It's something to be concerned about, and you should pay closer attention. Look no further than the sea of Q signs, slogans and clothing in the Jan. 6th crowd. Michael Flynn was reciting Q slogans. The same with Roger Stone and others. They were exploiting and encouraging extremism and extremist ideology, and Trump went to the lip of embracing Q. You should have been at the Texas State Republican Convention and you would have seen all you wanted of Q. It's a cult of conspiracy and fringe beliefs that has foot hold in the RP. The RPT in Texas is divided, and Chairman Allen West, who was run out of Fl politics, is playing to the crowd for his bid to replace Abbott as governor. If Republicans continue down this self destructive path of conciliation, encouragement, and endorsement, Democrats will be in control for the foreseeable future.
I bet you think Andy Kaufman was a threat to the Republic as well, don't you?
Ha Ha. Lame attempt at apples and oranges.
Your concern about Q and those who follow Q are as ludicrous as Q.
My family if full or Republicans and literally NONE of them know a thing about Q... this texasscientist poster is a wack job trying to convince everyone that the Republican party has been taken over by wackos. Which is funny, because that's exactly what's happened to the democrat party.

He loves to preach about Q while ignoring the threats posed by the likes of Antifa.

He's stupid liberal trying to pretend to be a republican in hopes that people purchase his BS. Sorry to break to him, I'm not or will be buying his crap.
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Rawhide said:

Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Carlos Cruz said:

TexasScientist said:

Rawhide said:

TexasScientist said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

ATL Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

C. Jordan said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.

Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?

Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.

Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.

How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.


Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.
What was planned? And what coordination occurred with government entities? Any?
I don't know if there was any coordination. My point is that it wouldn't be unusual. They intended for Trump supporters in the military to join in and provide the muscle to overthrow the election and keep him in power.
Who is they and what "plan" had military people participating in this? I mean is this just some figment or unverified expectation that it would magically occur in this manner? What coordination between protesters and military personnel occurred?
It appears many were there following Q, and one of the underlying themes of Q was that on the 6th the military was waiting for Trump to call it into action to take control and bring the 'cabal' to 'justice.'
You have an unhealthy obsession with Q. You don't realize that most (by far) conservatives, Republicans and Trump supporters don't follow it, don't agree with it and don't know what the hell it is. Hell, I only became aware because of your incessant posting about it.
It's something to be concerned about, and you should pay closer attention. Look no further than the sea of Q signs, slogans and clothing in the Jan. 6th crowd. Michael Flynn was reciting Q slogans. The same with Roger Stone and others. They were exploiting and encouraging extremism and extremist ideology, and Trump went to the lip of embracing Q. You should have been at the Texas State Republican Convention and you would have seen all you wanted of Q. It's a cult of conspiracy and fringe beliefs that has foot hold in the RP. The RPT in Texas is divided, and Chairman Allen West, who was run out of Fl politics, is playing to the crowd for his bid to replace Abbott as governor. If Republicans continue down this self destructive path of conciliation, encouragement, and endorsement, Democrats will be in control for the foreseeable future.
I bet you think Andy Kaufman was a threat to the Republic as well, don't you?
Ha Ha. Lame attempt at apples and oranges.
Your concern about Q and those who follow Q are as ludicrous as Q.
My family if full or Republicans and literally NONE of them know a thing about Q... this texasscientist poster is a wack job trying to convince everyone that the Republican party has been taken over by wackos. Which is funny, because that's exactly what's happened to the democrat party.

He loves to preach about Q while ignoring the threats posed by the likes of Antifa.

He's stupid liberal trying to pretend to be a republican in hopes that people purchase his BS. Sorry to break to him, I'm not or will be buying his crap.
How is calling out a problem in your own backyard ignoring Antifa. You can deny it, but conspiracy theorists and cult followers have an influence on recent events and current politics. No one else stormed the Capitol. The rhetoric is somewhat analogous to 1930's Germany, with communism on one end, and nationalist fascism on the other. Go ahead and put your blinders back on and earplugs in.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” ~ Upton Sinclair
 
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