Not fully vaccinated people account for 98.8% of COVID deaths in England

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/13/fully-vaccinated-people-account-for-12-of-englands-covid-19-deaths

get vaccinated morons
Osodecentx
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Maybe this is God's way of helping Darwin thin the herd and help the gene pool
Forest Bueller_bf
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More flies with honey than vinegar.
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Osodecentx said:

Maybe this is God's way of helping Darwin thin the herd and help the gene pool
I hope so! Let er rip, potato chip!!!!!
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Osodecentx said:

Maybe this is God's way of helping Darwin thin the herd and help the gene pool
I hope so! Let er rip, potato chip!!!!!


The effects of this pandemic are going to have very positive impacts on social security and Medicare.
KingHendy
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You are all sick. But hey to each their own…included those who won't take a vaccine.
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KingHendy said:

You are all sick. But hey to each their own…included those who won't take a vaccine.
Actually, most of us are not sick. Vaccinated and unvaccinated. That is the point.
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Osodecentx
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90%+ of sick and dying are unvaxxed.

What are the odds?

Freedomb3ar
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Osodecentx said:

90%+ of sick and dying are unvaxxed.

What are the odds?




And how many of those people never had covid before? That's a pretty important hidden statistic but many of us know many people in hospitals with the answer.

For people with no comorbidities, same as it always was, no Worse than the flu

The science is settled

Consult your doctor. Do what's best for your health in your personal situation.
Osodecentx
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Freedomb3ar said:

Osodecentx said:

90%+ of sick and dying are unvaxxed.

What are the odds?




And how many of those people never had covid before? That's a pretty important hidden statistic but many of us know many people in hospitals with the answer.
What is the answer?
Link?
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!
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Gonna drop this off, back to discuss later

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/09/covid-hospitalization-numbers-can-be-misleading/620062/
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!


Duh duh duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

But don't forget, these fools told us in April 2020 that millions of Americans would be dead by the end of the summer.

When they add up all the cancer deaths this caused with the lockdowns, they may be right, it will just take 5 years
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!
fyi, CDC modified the tracking parameters for covid positive individuals that are fully vaxed.. way back in May, we dont have close to a full accounting of breakthru cases.
“The Internet is just a world passing around notes in a classroom.”

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Freedomb3ar
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4th and Inches said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!
fyi, CDC modified the tracking parameters for covid positive individuals that are fully vaxed.. way back in May, we dont have close to a full accounting of breakthru cases.


You should see some of the internal emails to Texas hospital workers about how they are supposed to count people.

It's like counting Talibiden Hologram votes.

Disgusting
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Freedomb3ar said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!


Duh duh duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

But don't forget, these fools told us in April 2020 that millions of Americans would be dead by the end of the summer.

When they add up all the cancer deaths this caused with the lockdowns, they may be right, it will just take 5 years
They told us millions could be dead within two years, and without the vaccine they very likely would be.
Sam Lowry
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4th and Inches said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!
fyi, CDC modified the tracking parameters for covid positive individuals that are fully vaxed.. way back in May, we dont have close to a full accounting of breakthru cases.
I'm surprised they didn't do it sooner. The data would be highly misleading otherwise.
Freedomb3ar
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Sam Lowry said:

Freedomb3ar said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!


Duh duh duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

But don't forget, these fools told us in April 2020 that millions of Americans would be dead by the end of the summer.

When they add up all the cancer deaths this caused with the lockdowns, they may be right, it will just take 5 years
They told us millions could be dead within two years, and without the vaccine they very likely would be.


Wrong. It was months. Then without a vax, magically didn't happen. Then they didn't want a vax Trump
"Created". Nu uh. Nope. No way. Never.

All on video.

Then "we can mandate people get vaxed"

Then "this is a epidemic of the unvaxed".

Out patience is wearing thin
KingHendy
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Let me rephrase….you are deprived.
4th and Inches
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Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!
fyi, CDC modified the tracking parameters for covid positive individuals that are fully vaxed.. way back in May, we dont have close to a full accounting of breakthru cases.
I'm surprised they didn't do it sooner. The data would be highly misleading otherwise.
still is, check out the atlantic story on misleading hospitalization numbers
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Sam Lowry
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Freedomb3ar said:

Sam Lowry said:

Freedomb3ar said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!


Duh duh duhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

But don't forget, these fools told us in April 2020 that millions of Americans would be dead by the end of the summer.

When they add up all the cancer deaths this caused with the lockdowns, they may be right, it will just take 5 years
They told us millions could be dead within two years, and without the vaccine they very likely would be.


Wrong. It was months. Then without a vax, magically didn't happen. Then they didn't want a vax Trump
"Created". Nu uh. Nope. No way. Never.

All on video.

Then "we can mandate people get vaxed"

Then "this is a epidemic of the unvaxed".

Out patience is wearing thin
That was assuming no mitigation policies - no lockdowns, no masks, etc. What happened was very consistent with predictions under the actual circumstances.
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clubhi said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/13/fully-vaccinated-people-account-for-12-of-englands-covid-19-deaths

get vaccinated morons
The biggest moron on this board calls others morons.

Thoughtful and convincing, stinque.
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Osodecentx said:

90%+ of sick and dying are unvaxxed.

What are the odds?


your odds are better if you stay out of Scotland


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4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!
fyi, CDC modified the tracking parameters for covid positive individuals that are fully vaxed.. way back in May, we dont have close to a full accounting of breakthru cases.
I'm surprised they didn't do it sooner. The data would be highly misleading otherwise.
still is, check out the atlantic story on misleading hospitalization numbers
I've seen it, and it's good to have confirmation of how well the vaccines are working. It also remains true that the milder cases are taking up space, they are there for a reason, and in general their chances wouldn't be as good if they didn't have access to treatment.
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Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!
fyi, CDC modified the tracking parameters for covid positive individuals that are fully vaxed.. way back in May, we dont have close to a full accounting of breakthru cases.
I'm surprised they didn't do it sooner. The data would be highly misleading otherwise.
still is, check out the atlantic story on misleading hospitalization numbers
I've seen it, and it's good to have confirmation of how well the vaccines are working. It also remains true that the milder cases are taking up space, they are there for a reason, and in general their chances wouldn't be as good if they didn't have access to treatment.
that is what you got out of a bunch of people are in the hospital for something else are being counted as covid hospitalizations? Interesting
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4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!
fyi, CDC modified the tracking parameters for covid positive individuals that are fully vaxed.. way back in May, we dont have close to a full accounting of breakthru cases.
I'm surprised they didn't do it sooner. The data would be highly misleading otherwise.
still is, check out the atlantic story on misleading hospitalization numbers
I've seen it, and it's good to have confirmation of how well the vaccines are working. It also remains true that the milder cases are taking up space, they are there for a reason, and in general their chances wouldn't be as good if they didn't have access to treatment.
that is what you got out of a bunch of people are in the hospital for something else are being counted as covid hospitalizations? Interesting


Everyone knows that's what's happening. We even have video of people leading hospitals telling their marketing team and doctors "we need to get the covid numbers up to..you know...scare the public more"
Osodecentx
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Freedomb3ar said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!
fyi, CDC modified the tracking parameters for covid positive individuals that are fully vaxed.. way back in May, we dont have close to a full accounting of breakthru cases.
I'm surprised they didn't do it sooner. The data would be highly misleading otherwise.
still is, check out the atlantic story on misleading hospitalization numbers
I've seen it, and it's good to have confirmation of how well the vaccines are working. It also remains true that the milder cases are taking up space, they are there for a reason, and in general their chances wouldn't be as good if they didn't have access to treatment.
that is what you got out of a bunch of people are in the hospital for something else are being counted as covid hospitalizations? Interesting


Everyone knows that's what's happening. We even have video of people leading hospitals telling their marketing team and doctors "we need to get the covid numbers up to..you know...scare the public more"
I haven't seen the video. Link?
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Osodecentx said:

Freedomb3ar said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

Sam Lowry said:

4th and Inches said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!
fyi, CDC modified the tracking parameters for covid positive individuals that are fully vaxed.. way back in May, we dont have close to a full accounting of breakthru cases.
I'm surprised they didn't do it sooner. The data would be highly misleading otherwise.
still is, check out the atlantic story on misleading hospitalization numbers
I've seen it, and it's good to have confirmation of how well the vaccines are working. It also remains true that the milder cases are taking up space, they are there for a reason, and in general their chances wouldn't be as good if they didn't have access to treatment.
that is what you got out of a bunch of people are in the hospital for something else are being counted as covid hospitalizations? Interesting


Everyone knows that's what's happening. We even have video of people leading hospitals telling their marketing team and doctors "we need to get the covid numbers up to..you know...scare the public more"
I haven't seen the video. Link?


It's posted. On this here very board
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!


Is it spin to point out that number is meaningless; that anyone who knows basic logic understands "correlation is not causation."


For the 50th time. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
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Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!


Is it spin to point out that number is meaningless; that anyone who knows basic logic understands "correlation is not causation."


For the 50th time. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

I think you misunderstood the link or did not read it. These stats are not listing adverse reactions to the vaccine. It lists the number of people that received the vaccine that were hospitalized or died from Covid.

The last row of the chart* specifically lists those cases that were asymptiomatic or non-Covid related.
The numbers may be "meaningless" to some such as yourself but to others they are not.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!


Is it spin to point out that number is meaningless; that anyone who knows basic logic understands "correlation is not causation."


For the 50th time. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

I think you misunderstood the link or did not read it. These stats are not listing adverse reactions to the vaccine. It lists the number of people that received the vaccine that were hospitalized or died from Covid.

The last row of the chart* specifically lists those cases that were asymptiomatic or non-Covid related.
The numbers may be "meaningless" to some such as yourself but to others they are not.
You are right-I thought this was the 50th time you had pointed out the hotline data. Instead you have begun misinterpreting different data-good for you.

That chart shows that some people with an undetermined level of vaccination have died with COVID; that in some of those cases COVID contributed to their death. Meaning that the vaccines are not 100% effective.

Is that somehow surprising?
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Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!


Is it spin to point out that number is meaningless; that anyone who knows basic logic understands "correlation is not causation."


For the 50th time. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

I think you misunderstood the link or did not read it. These stats are not listing adverse reactions to the vaccine. It lists the number of people that received the vaccine that were hospitalized or died from Covid.

The last row of the chart* specifically lists those cases that were asymptiomatic or non-Covid related.
The numbers may be "meaningless" to some such as yourself but to others they are not.
You are right-I thought this was the 50th time you had pointed out the hotline data. Instead you have begun misinterpreting different data-good for you.

That chart shows that some people with an undetermined level of vaccination have died with COVID; that in some of those cases COVID contributed to their death. Meaning that the vaccines are not 100% effective.

Is that somehow surprising?
Thank you. In my opinion, the vaccines are marginally effective at best. I think we are learning their effectiveness of those that have received the shot has a very small window. I believe the endgame is to require everyone that has bought all in to get a shot every six months.
No thanks.
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clubhi said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/13/fully-vaccinated-people-account-for-12-of-englands-covid-19-deaths

get vaccinated morons


If you believe this ****, well, "ya can't fix stupid" so I have no comment
Florda_mike
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Oh, and Israel says hi .... to you, Clubhi
Booray
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Booray said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

14,115 people that were vaccinated have died or been hospitalized. Link is from the CDC website.

GO Spinmeisters!!!


Is it spin to point out that number is meaningless; that anyone who knows basic logic understands "correlation is not causation."


For the 50th time. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

I think you misunderstood the link or did not read it. These stats are not listing adverse reactions to the vaccine. It lists the number of people that received the vaccine that were hospitalized or died from Covid.

The last row of the chart* specifically lists those cases that were asymptiomatic or non-Covid related.
The numbers may be "meaningless" to some such as yourself but to others they are not.
You are right-I thought this was the 50th time you had pointed out the hotline data. Instead you have begun misinterpreting different data-good for you.

That chart shows that some people with an undetermined level of vaccination have died with COVID; that in some of those cases COVID contributed to their death. Meaning that the vaccines are not 100% effective.

Is that somehow surprising?
Thank you. In my opinion, the vaccines are marginally effective at best. I think we are learning their effectiveness of those that have received the shot has a very small window. I believe the endgame is to require everyone that has bought all in to get a shot every six months.
No thanks.
If that is what you have learned, you are not a very good learner. The vaccines have been incredibly effective. The fact that boosters might be needed make these vaccines no different from almost all other vaccines.
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