Both sides believe it is a matter of life and death. And that is okay. When the President said, we need to protect vaccinated workers from the unvaccinated", that was a pretty clear message to me the vaccines don't work. Same with the southern border. Another clear message.JXL said:
I cannot fathom why some people feel it is so important to reject a vaccine.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Both sides believe it is a matter of life and death. And that is okay. When the President said, we need to protect vaccinated workers from the unvaccinated", that was a pretty clear message to me the vaccines don't work. Same with the southern border. Another clear message.JXL said:
I cannot fathom why some people feel it is so important to reject a vaccine.
That is the problem. The medical evidence and reporting is not there.JXL said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Both sides believe it is a matter of life and death. And that is okay. When the President said, we need to protect vaccinated workers from the unvaccinated", that was a pretty clear message to me the vaccines don't work. Same with the southern border. Another clear message.JXL said:
I cannot fathom why some people feel it is so important to reject a vaccine.
So all the medical evidence is wrong?
JXL said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Both sides believe it is a matter of life and death. And that is okay. When the President said, we need to protect vaccinated workers from the unvaccinated", that was a pretty clear message to me the vaccines don't work. Same with the southern border. Another clear message.JXL said:
I cannot fathom why some people feel it is so important to reject a vaccine.
So all the medical evidence is wrong?
over 80% of the worlds population has no significant symptoms to Covid, vaccinated or non vaccine. About 2% of the worlds population has a critical response to Covid, we are still seeing significant covid surges in vaccinated populations as well. Israel has over 1000 deaths(13% of total covid deaths) in the last 60 days and they were already highly vaxed when the surge started.JXL said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Both sides believe it is a matter of life and death. And that is okay. When the President said, we need to protect vaccinated workers from the unvaccinated", that was a pretty clear message to me the vaccines don't work. Same with the southern border. Another clear message.JXL said:
I cannot fathom why some people feel it is so important to reject a vaccine.
So all the medical evidence is wrong?
Florda_mike said:
It's in OP but the same characters here refuse to even watch 10 minutes
Heck 2 minutes is sufficient!
It's not rejection of the vaccine that's important, but the freedom to do so. I am fine if others wanted to get vaccinated with a vaccine that has no long term data attached to it. I prefer to take a wait and see approach, and if the results in a few years show there is no adverse side effects long term, then perhaps I will get it myself. But as a conservative, I would prefer the govt. let me make that decision for myself.JXL said:
I cannot fathom why some people feel it is so important to reject a vaccine.
Not one or two million but I certainly believe there have been tens of thousands. For a little chill up your spine, you should read the latest data regarding Covid deaths in the UK and Israel. Something is amiss.JXL said:Florda_mike said:
It's in OP but the same characters here refuse to even watch 10 minutes
Heck 2 minutes is sufficient!
Since the vaccines are so dangerous and 181 million people in the United States have been vaccinated, there have probably been at least one or two million deaths as a result, right?
JXL said:
Since the vaccines are so dangerous and 181 million people in the United States have been vaccinated, there have probably been at least one or two million deaths as a result, right?
Not finding any horror stories regarding vaccine related deaths in Israel .RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Not one or two million but I certainly believe there have been tens of thousands. For a little chill up your spine, you should read the latest data regarding Covid deaths in the UK and Israel. Something is amiss.JXL said:Florda_mike said:
It's in OP but the same characters here refuse to even watch 10 minutes
Heck 2 minutes is sufficient!
Since the vaccines are so dangerous and 181 million people in the United States have been vaccinated, there have probably been at least one or two million deaths as a result, right?
I am not saying the deaths are caused by the vaccines. I think what we are learning from the UK/ Israel stats is the vaccines are not near as effective as we are being led to believe in preventiing deaths and hospitalizations.Canada2017 said:Not finding any horror stories regarding vaccine related deaths in Israel .RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Not one or two million but I certainly believe there have been tens of thousands. For a little chill up your spine, you should read the latest data regarding Covid deaths in the UK and Israel. Something is amiss.JXL said:Florda_mike said:
It's in OP but the same characters here refuse to even watch 10 minutes
Heck 2 minutes is sufficient!
Since the vaccines are so dangerous and 181 million people in the United States have been vaccinated, there have probably been at least one or two million deaths as a result, right?
Did see a couple of stories how the country's death counts have gone up dramatically over the last few weeks.
But that the early data is suggesting the 'booster' shots are helping .
Possibly so.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:I am not saying the deaths are caused by the vaccines. I think what we are learning from the UK/ Israel stats is the vaccines are not near as effective as we are being led to believe in preventiing deaths and hospitalizations.Canada2017 said:Not finding any horror stories regarding vaccine related deaths in Israel .RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Not one or two million but I certainly believe there have been tens of thousands. For a little chill up your spine, you should read the latest data regarding Covid deaths in the UK and Israel. Something is amiss.JXL said:Florda_mike said:
It's in OP but the same characters here refuse to even watch 10 minutes
Heck 2 minutes is sufficient!
Since the vaccines are so dangerous and 181 million people in the United States have been vaccinated, there have probably been at least one or two million deaths as a result, right?
Did see a couple of stories how the country's death counts have gone up dramatically over the last few weeks.
But that the early data is suggesting the 'booster' shots are helping .
The swine flu vaccine also injured thousands of people. When the media was still interested in objective reporting, Mike Wallace did an in-depth investigation on the swine flu vaccine on 60 minutes. The vaccine-injured individual he interviewed was my wife's next door neighbor, and she lost the ability to walk because of that vaccine. She remains a dear family friend, and to this day, remains in a wheelchair.Coke Bear said:JXL said:
Since the vaccines are so dangerous and 181 million people in the United States have been vaccinated, there have probably been at least one or two million deaths as a result, right?
I haven't watched the video (quite frankly, I can't make the time right now), but according to a podcast with one of the lawyers for a whistleblower, the deaths from the vax are significantly under reported, maybe by a factor of 5 to 9 times higher.
Two quick facts:
1) In the 70's, a vax was created to stop a Swine flu outbreak. The vaccine killed 53 people and it was pulled immediately. These vaccines have killed 6000+ people and our government keeps pushing them.
2) Pfizer forced all their Sales Reps to get the vax. About two weeks ago, they pulled their entire outside sales force off the road because it was "too dangerous out there" - quote from friend who works for them.
Disclaimer - I'm not an anti-vaxer. I did receive both Modera shots and I'm currently working from home because I tested positive for Covid on Sunday.
If the vaccine works so well, why worry about the boob that didn't get one? After all, you've had the jab, you should be good to go.JXL said:Florda_mike said:
It's in OP but the same characters here refuse to even watch 10 minutes
Heck 2 minutes is sufficient!
Since the vaccines are so dangerous and 181 million people in the United States have been vaccinated, there have probably been at least one or two million deaths as a result, right?
bidenettes have a hard time with the concept of personal freedom.Coke Bear said:JXL said:
Since the vaccines are so dangerous and 181 million people in the United States have been vaccinated, there have probably been at least one or two million deaths as a result, right?
I haven't watched the video (quite frankly, I can't make the time right now), but according to a podcast with one of the lawyers for a whistleblower, the deaths from the vax are significantly under reported, maybe by a factor of 5 to 9 times higher.
Two quick facts:
1) In the 70's, a vax was created to stop a Swine flu outbreak. The vaccine killed 53 people and it was pulled immediately. These vaccines have killed 6000+ people and our government keeps pushing them.
2) Pfizer forced all their Sales Reps to get the vax. About two weeks ago, they pulled their entire outside sales force off the road because it was "too dangerous out there" - quote from friend who works for them.
Disclaimer - I'm not an anti-vaxer. I did receive both Modera shots and I'm currently working from home because I tested positive for Covid on Sunday.
Rawhide said:If the vaccine works so well, why worry about the boob that didn't get one? After all, you've had the jab, you should be good to go.JXL said:Florda_mike said:
It's in OP but the same characters here refuse to even watch 10 minutes
Heck 2 minutes is sufficient!
Since the vaccines are so dangerous and 181 million people in the United States have been vaccinated, there have probably been at least one or two million deaths as a result, right?
What about if you get in a car wreck because someone was driving under the influence? Maybe we should bring back prohibition?JXL said:Rawhide said:If the vaccine works so well, why worry about the boob that didn't get one? After all, you've had the jab, you should be good to go.JXL said:Florda_mike said:
It's in OP but the same characters here refuse to even watch 10 minutes
Heck 2 minutes is sufficient!
Since the vaccines are so dangerous and 181 million people in the United States have been vaccinated, there have probably been at least one or two million deaths as a result, right?
What if I get in a car wreck but all the ICU beds are taken up by the boobs who didn't get a shot?
What do we do if all the beds are taken up by the boobs that did get the shot? Should we do something different?Rawhide said:What about if you get in a car wreck because someone was driving under the influence? Maybe we should bring back prohibition?JXL said:Rawhide said:If the vaccine works so well, why worry about the boob that didn't get one? After all, you've had the jab, you should be good to go.JXL said:Florda_mike said:
It's in OP but the same characters here refuse to even watch 10 minutes
Heck 2 minutes is sufficient!
Since the vaccines are so dangerous and 181 million people in the United States have been vaccinated, there have probably been at least one or two million deaths as a result, right?
What if I get in a car wreck but all the ICU beds are taken up by the boobs who didn't get a shot?
Then you must be happy. Thats exactly what is happening. Up until now, no one has been held down and vaccinated, Freedom of choice for you and me.Mothra said:It's not rejection of the vaccine that's important, but the freedom to do so. I am fine if others wanted to get vaccinated with a vaccine that has no long term data attached to it. I prefer to take a wait and see approach, and if the results in a few years show there is no adverse side effects long term, then perhaps I will get it myself. But as a conservative, I would prefer the govt. let me make that decision for myself.JXL said:
I cannot fathom why some people feel it is so important to reject a vaccine.
Ah yes, there's that incredible reasoning ability again. Yes, you're right, if the govt. mandate doesn't require govt. actors to hold you down and vaccinate you, you haven't been forced. LOL.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:Then you must be happy. Thats exactly what is happening. Up until now, no one has been held down and vaccinated, Freedom of choice for you and me.Mothra said:It's not rejection of the vaccine that's important, but the freedom to do so. I am fine if others wanted to get vaccinated with a vaccine that has no long term data attached to it. I prefer to take a wait and see approach, and if the results in a few years show there is no adverse side effects long term, then perhaps I will get it myself. But as a conservative, I would prefer the govt. let me make that decision for myself.JXL said:
I cannot fathom why some people feel it is so important to reject a vaccine.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:Then you must be happy. Thats exactly what is happening. Up until now, no one has been held down and vaccinated, Freedom of choice for you and me.Mothra said:It's not rejection of the vaccine that's important, but the freedom to do so. I am fine if others wanted to get vaccinated with a vaccine that has no long term data attached to it. I prefer to take a wait and see approach, and if the results in a few years show there is no adverse side effects long term, then perhaps I will get it myself. But as a conservative, I would prefer the govt. let me make that decision for myself.JXL said:
I cannot fathom why some people feel it is so important to reject a vaccine.
I am on both sides of this really.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Both sides believe it is a matter of life and death. And that is okay. When the President said, we need to protect vaccinated workers from the unvaccinated", that was a pretty clear message to me the vaccines don't work. Same with the southern border. Another clear message.JXL said:
I cannot fathom why some people feel it is so important to reject a vaccine.
Mike, why do you think people are going to waste 10 minutes of their time watching some random video when all you do nowadays is post link after link to some crazy right wing conspiracy theory website if you cant even be bother to sum it up? At this point you are this forums Alex Jones (and given your current disposition, to be clear, that is not a compliment)Florda_mike said:
You're not even responding to the video in OP so I know you've not spent 10 short minutes viewing it
WAKE UP AND VIEW VIDEO IN OP
And your link is gone for whatever reason?
It's called conservatism. Look into it.Mothra said:Ah yes, there's that incredible reasoning ability again. Yes, you're right, if the govt. mandate doesn't require govt. actors to hold you down and vaccinate you, you haven't been forced. LOL.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:Then you must be happy. Thats exactly what is happening. Up until now, no one has been held down and vaccinated, Freedom of choice for you and me.Mothra said:It's not rejection of the vaccine that's important, but the freedom to do so. I am fine if others wanted to get vaccinated with a vaccine that has no long term data attached to it. I prefer to take a wait and see approach, and if the results in a few years show there is no adverse side effects long term, then perhaps I will get it myself. But as a conservative, I would prefer the govt. let me make that decision for myself.JXL said:
I cannot fathom why some people feel it is so important to reject a vaccine.
You have some of the dumbest takes on this board.
clubhi said:
flordia_mike is what happens when conspiracy theorists stay up all night smoking meth instead of weed