cowboycwr said:
Rawhide said:
The war wasn't about slavery. It was about keeping the union together.
The secession was about slavery (among other things).
You have the secession and war terribly confused.
Don't care if you believe I got a vaccine or not. But I made my decision not based on what some internet, youtube, cnn doctors or fuaci or biden has to say. I made my decision based on conversations with my personal physician.
That is what it started out as (from the North) but from the south it was about slavery. The war changed and morphed into about slavery first and keeping the union together second. Hence calling it about slavery.
That is why the majority of professionals call it about slavery.
So you got the shot because your doctor had reached a conclusion based on the majority of experts stating the shot was good and advised you to get it...
For the Upper South States secession itself was not even about slavery…much less the war. They were not even inclined to leave the Union at all until Lincoln called up troops to stop the deep south states from leaving.
"Once Lincoln called for troops, the secession of VA, NC, TN & AR only then became certain. Although all had been fundamentally Unionist in sentiment, the hostility of all to coercion was overwhelming."
-Prof Allan Nevins
"Devoted as they were [Border States] to the Union, they shrank from the idea of saving it by blood. And behind their antagonism to force lay a hope that if time were allowed for reflection, the two sections would...agree on a reasonable compromise." -Prof. Allan Nevins
"Why? If they believed in the Union & the Union was attacked, why join the assailants and not the defenders? Theoretically, because they did not believe in the indissoluble Union of which Lincoln repeatedly spoke, but in the dissoluble Union of John Taylor of Caroline and Thomas Jefferson."- Prof. Allan Nevins
"To hold Fort Sumter was to Lincoln a duty but to the Virginians it savored of coercion; and coercion in this case meant forcing a State which had seceded, back into the Union. If an attempt was made to coerce a State, Virginia would join the Southern Confederacy."-Rhodes
When Lincoln called for armed troops to subjugate the "Rebelling states," Virginia, The Mother of States and of Statesmen, refused to provide them, indicted Lincoln for "choosing to inaugurate a violent war," then she seceded from the Union, and joined the Confederacy."