Mandatory Retirement/Age Limits for Politicians- 65-70

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Canon
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I very much like this idea. I think 65 would be more appropriate, but 70 would be a great step in the right direction. We put age minimums to run for office, and the current President is proof mental decline is an issue that needs to be addressed.

It would also serve as a defacto term limiter, which we sorely need, despite the morons who say elections are term limits.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10270441/Lets-set-age-limit-Elon-Musk-suggests-introducing-BAN-70s-running-office.html#article-10270441

Let's set an age limit!' Elon Musk suggests introducing a BAN on over 70s from running for office that would see Joe Biden and Donald Trump barred from seeking second terms

Musk, who turned 50 in June, tweeted on Thursday that he wanted an age limit of 'just below 70' placed on those seeking political office
Joe Biden, now 79, is the oldest president in U.S. history and his critics - especially Fox News - frequently mock him for his age
Musk did not say who he meant, but he has frequently sparred with Bernie Sanders, with the 80-year-old Vermont senator calling for higher taxes
Twenty-three members of the Senate are in their 70s; only one is under 40, according to the Congressional Research Service
The average age of senators at the beginning of this year was 64.3 years the oldest in history
Coke Bear
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Frankly, I feel that Term Limits are our best option. Two terms in the Senate and 4 terms in the House. Or nor more than 20 years of service between the two. If you can't get it done in 20 years in Washington, you need to go.

Also bar any former elected official from becoming a lobbyist or consultant for any PAC.
Canon
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Coke Bear said:

Frankly, I feel that Term Limits are our best option. Two terms in the Senate and 4 terms in the House. Or nor more than 20 years of service between the two. If you can't get it done in 20 years in Washington, you need to go.

Also bar any former elected official from becoming a lobbyist or consultant for any PAC.


Since SCOTUS shot those down in the 90s, this seems like a great end run around that stupid ruling.
Osodecentx
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Don't vote for the politicians with whom you disagree. That is my term limits policy; vote 'em out
Guy Noir
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I also think that Supreme Court Members should have an age limit.
STxBear81
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yes to all....anyone who tries to have a concerted effort to go against the Constitution is sent home without any benefits
Forest Bueller_bf
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Man did you see Pelosi trying to speak the other day.

I wonder what type of drug cocktail they have to prop her up.

Her mind is gone.
ABC BEAR
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No member of The Squad was born before 1974, (Avg. age 42) and all holders of leadership offices in D.C. (Biden, Schumer, McConnell, Pelosi) were born before 1950.

I don't think we can draw any positive leadership conclusions from either group.

Wisdom and old age really have nothing to do with each other, (although old guys typically tell better stories than young guys) and stupid is the one commodity which is never in short supply.
Redbrickbear
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We should raise the minimum age to get elected to Congress to 35 and put in a mandatory retirement age of 70.

And that should go for all branches....Legislative, Executive, & Judicial.

Joe Biden as been in the Federal government since he was 29 years old....now he is almost 80.
Redbrickbear
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ABC BEAR said:

No member of The Squad was born before 1974, (Avg. age 42) and all holders of leadership offices in D.C. (Biden, Schumer, McConnell, Pelosi) were born before 1950.

I don't think we can draw any positive leadership conclusions from either group.

Wisdom and old age really have nothing to do with each other, (although old guys typically tell better stories than young guys) and stupid is the one commodity which is never in short supply.
Agree but at some point the older generation has to give up power to the younger generation. And the boomers don't seem like they want to go quietly.

Age 70 is old enough to pack in the bags and head off to retirement.

You have to let the younger generations rule eventually.
ABC BEAR
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Redbrickbear said:

ABC BEAR said:

No member of The Squad was born before 1974, (Avg. age 42) and all holders of leadership offices in D.C. (Biden, Schumer, McConnell, Pelosi) were born before 1950.

I don't think we can draw any positive leadership conclusions from either group.

Wisdom and old age really have nothing to do with each other, (although old guys typically tell better stories than young guys) and stupid is the one commodity which is never in short supply.


You have to let the younger generations rule eventually.
In the immortal words of Mickey Spillane: WE'RE DOOMED.
Canon
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Osodecentx said:

Don't vote for the politicians with whom you disagree. That is my term limits policy; vote 'em out


See para 2 of my original post
Oldbear83
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To the OP: Bad idea
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
quash
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Hard pass. I prefer a representative democracy.

Statists want to use the power of their beast to limit voter choice.

“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Porteroso
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Term limits are better. They don't discriminate against age, and your goal would be accomplished. Old politicians don't get elected for the first time at 75, they got elected at 45, and entrench themselves.
Canon
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Oldbear83 said:

To the OP: Bad idea


OLD bear opinion noted.
Oldbear83
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Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

To the OP: Bad idea


OLD bear opinion noted.
Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Canon
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Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

To the OP: Bad idea


OLD bear opinion noted.
Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.
Septuagenarians and octogenarians, with only the most tentative, saggy and not long for this world skin in the game, should not be making decisions they won't be living with in 3-5 years. At a certain point, when you are on the dole, you should bow out and let the people actually paying the bills decide how the house is run.
quash
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Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

To the OP: Bad idea


OLD bear opinion noted.
Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.

She has better skin. And that matters for some reason...
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Oldbear83
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Then don't vote for them. Bigotry, any kind, is stupid and wrong.
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Canada2017
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Mandatory retirement of politicians and judges at 70 .
Oldbear83
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Canada2017 said:

Mandatory retirement of politicians and judges at 70 .
And if, hypothetically, the best candidate is 72 or 73?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Canada2017
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Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Mandatory retirement of politicians and judges at 70 .
And if, hypothetically, the best candidate is 72 or 73?
He isn't.


Got to dislodge these lifers who command all the campaign contributions .
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Oldbear83
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Canada2017 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Mandatory retirement of politicians and judges at 70 .
And if, hypothetically, the best candidate is 72 or 73?
He isn't.


Got to dislodge these lifers who command all the campaign contributions .
Get term limits then, not agist bigotry. Biden did more damage because of long obeisance to lobbyists than because of his age.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Canon
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Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Mandatory retirement of politicians and judges at 70 .
And if, hypothetically, the best candidate is 72 or 73?
He isn't.


Got to dislodge these lifers who command all the campaign contributions .
Get term limits then, not agist bigotry. Biden did more damage because of long obeisance to lobbyists than because of his age.




Bigotry? Like the 35 yr age requirement to be POTUS?
Oldbear83
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Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Mandatory retirement of politicians and judges at 70 .
And if, hypothetically, the best candidate is 72 or 73?
He isn't.


Got to dislodge these lifers who command all the campaign contributions .
Get term limits then, not agist bigotry. Biden did more damage because of long obeisance to lobbyists than because of his age.




Bigotry? Like the 35 yr age requirement to be POTUS?
Yup. Same principle.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Canon
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Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Mandatory retirement of politicians and judges at 70 .
And if, hypothetically, the best candidate is 72 or 73?
He isn't.


Got to dislodge these lifers who command all the campaign contributions .
Get term limits then, not agist bigotry. Biden did more damage because of long obeisance to lobbyists than because of his age.




Bigotry? Like the 35 yr age requirement to be POTUS?
Yup. Same principle.
It's not bigotry. It's recognition that there is a period in life when the mind and decision making skills are at their peak and periods when they are either underdeveloped or in severe decline and should not be trusted with overly important decisions that affect a nation.
Oldbear83
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Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Mandatory retirement of politicians and judges at 70 .
And if, hypothetically, the best candidate is 72 or 73?
He isn't.


Got to dislodge these lifers who command all the campaign contributions .
Get term limits then, not agist bigotry. Biden did more damage because of long obeisance to lobbyists than because of his age.




Bigotry? Like the 35 yr age requirement to be POTUS?
Yup. Same principle.
It's not bigotry. It's recognition that there is a period in life when the mind and decision making skills are at their peak and periods when they are either underdeveloped or in severe decline and should not be trusted with overly important decisions that affect a nation.
BS.

Some people at any age have comprehension issues. Some people at 80 are sharper than most people in their 20s.

Judge by the individual, not the bigot.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Canon
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Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Mandatory retirement of politicians and judges at 70 .
And if, hypothetically, the best candidate is 72 or 73?
He isn't.


Got to dislodge these lifers who command all the campaign contributions .
Get term limits then, not agist bigotry. Biden did more damage because of long obeisance to lobbyists than because of his age.




Bigotry? Like the 35 yr age requirement to be POTUS?
Yup. Same principle.
It's not bigotry. It's recognition that there is a period in life when the mind and decision making skills are at their peak and periods when they are either underdeveloped or in severe decline and should not be trusted with overly important decisions that affect a nation.
BS.

Some people at any age have comprehension issues. Some people at 80 are sharper than most people in their 20s.

Judge by the individual, not the bigot.
Some people in their 60's are stronger than people in their 30's. It's still a very poor idea to put a 60 year old on the field to play in the NFL. Regardless, for the same reason people who pay no net tax should be prevented from voting (no skin the game), people who will likely not live to see the results of their own decisions should not be making decisions for those who will...skin in the game.
Oldbear83
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Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Mandatory retirement of politicians and judges at 70 .
And if, hypothetically, the best candidate is 72 or 73?
He isn't.


Got to dislodge these lifers who command all the campaign contributions .
Get term limits then, not agist bigotry. Biden did more damage because of long obeisance to lobbyists than because of his age.




Bigotry? Like the 35 yr age requirement to be POTUS?
Yup. Same principle.
It's not bigotry. It's recognition that there is a period in life when the mind and decision making skills are at their peak and periods when they are either underdeveloped or in severe decline and should not be trusted with overly important decisions that affect a nation.
BS.

Some people at any age have comprehension issues. Some people at 80 are sharper than most people in their 20s.

Judge by the individual, not the bigot.
Some people in their 60's are stronger than people in their 30's. It's still a very poor idea to put a 60 year old on the field to play in the NFL. Regardless, for the same reason people who pay no net tax should be prevented from voting (no skin the game), people who will likely not live to see the results of their own decisions should not be making decisions for those who will...skin in the game.
Again, vote for/against the individual, not out of groupthink
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Canada2017
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Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Mandatory retirement of politicians and judges at 70 .
And if, hypothetically, the best candidate is 72 or 73?
He isn't.


Got to dislodge these lifers who command all the campaign contributions .
Get term limits then, not agist bigotry. Biden did more damage because of long obeisance to lobbyists than because of his age.




Bigotry? Like the 35 yr age requirement to be POTUS?
Yup. Same principle.
It's not bigotry. It's recognition that there is a period in life when the mind and decision making skills are at their peak and periods when they are either underdeveloped or in severe decline and should not be trusted with overly important decisions that affect a nation.
BS.

Some people at any age have comprehension issues. Some people at 80 are sharper than most people in their 20s.

Judge by the individual, not the bigot.
Some people in their 60's are stronger than people in their 30's. It's still a very poor idea to put a 60 year old on the field to play in the NFL. Regardless, for the same reason people who pay no net tax should be prevented from voting (no skin the game), people who will likely not live to see the results of their own decisions should not be making decisions for those who will...skin in the game.
Again, vote for/against the individual, not out of groupthink
Its almost impossible for these lifers to lose when they dominate the campaign contributions .

In such realities the 'individual' is swamped by the dollars .
quash
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Canada2017 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canada2017 said:

Mandatory retirement of politicians and judges at 70 .
And if, hypothetically, the best candidate is 72 or 73?
He isn't.


Got to dislodge these lifers who command all the campaign contributions .

In your opinion.

But if a fellow citizen disagrees with you then imposing this policy denies that citizen the right to vote for the candidate of his choice.

The OP wants to substitute state restrictions for voter discernment. Less liberty is, again, a hard pass.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Sam Lowry
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Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

To the OP: Bad idea


OLD bear opinion noted.
Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.
Septuagenarians and octogenarians, with only the most tentative, saggy and not long for this world skin in the game, should not be making decisions they won't be living with in 3-5 years. At a certain point, when you are on the dole, you should bow out and let the people actually paying the bills decide how the house is run.
Translation: let's find a way to screw the retirees, and let's find it quick.
Canon
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Sam Lowry said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

Canon said:

Oldbear83 said:

To the OP: Bad idea


OLD bear opinion noted.
Take a look sometime and the % of the population over 60. Stupid to piss off that bloc. Better to just demand someone prove they have a soul, brain and spine. Shewt, AOC proved that young people can be just as stupid as old Pelosi.
Septuagenarians and octogenarians, with only the most tentative, saggy and not long for this world skin in the game, should not be making decisions they won't be living with in 3-5 years. At a certain point, when you are on the dole, you should bow out and let the people actually paying the bills decide how the house is run.
Translation: let's find a way to screw the retirees, and let's find it quick.



Retirees getting massively more out of SSI than most ever put in? No. They aren't getting screwed in this. They just should not be allowed to vote for things they won't live with.
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