The 1-3-1: Baylor (16-8, 7-5) at Kansas State (14-11, 3-9)

Just win (Lady) Bears!

Baylor is 2 games behind UT/OU not 4. They have lost 3 games and we have lost 5. Still unlikely we will win Big 12 this year. We just need to finish season strong and hope for no more injuries.

3 games behind..11-3 to 7-5 is 3 games behind because of uneven number of games played between us..

And we have 6 games left not 4.

Let's win all 6!

Strolling down memory lane



March 18, 2014

Kansas State made the rare move of luring a head coach away from a conference rival on Tuesday, hiring Jeff Mittie to become its new head coach. He replaces Deb Patterson, who was fired after 18 seasons that included nine NCAA tournament appearances.

Mittie resigned from the Horned Frogs, where he had spent the past 15 seasons, and agreed to a five-year contract with Kansas State that will pay $375,000 the first year with $25,000 increases each remaining year. He will also receive a $140,000 signing bonus

- Excerpts from NCAA website, 18 Mar 2014

Note
"Jeff Mittie is 2-25 against Baylor"

- KSU WBB website, 13 Feb 2023

slimecap said:

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Strolling down memory lane



March 18, 2014

Kansas State made the rare move of luring a head coach away from a conference rival on Tuesday, hiring Jeff Mittie to become its new head coach. He replaces Deb Patterson, who was fired after 18 seasons that included nine NCAA tournament appearances.

Mittie resigned from the Horned Frogs, where he had spent the past 15 seasons, and agreed to a five-year contract with Kansas State that will pay $375,000 the first year with $25,000 increases each remaining year. He will also receive a $140,000 signing bonus

- Excerpts from NCAA website, 18 Mar 2014

Note
"Jeff Mittie is 2-25 against Baylor"

- KSU WBB website, 13 Feb 2023

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I know he won last year, but when was the other victory? Last year was the first time we lost to KSt since 2003 or 2004, and TCU hasn't beaten us since SWC days.

whitetrash said:

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slimecap said:

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Note
"Jeff Mittie is 2-25 against Baylor"

- KSU WBB website, 13 Feb 2023

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I know he won last year, but when was the other victory?
Last year was the first time we lost to KSt since 2003 or 2004, and TCU hasn't beaten us since SWC days.

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DEC 4, 1995
Arkansas State defeats Baylor 64-57 in Waco
Jeff Mittie was the head coach of Arkansas State from 1995-1999

slimecap said:

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whitetrash said:

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slimecap said:

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Note
"Jeff Mittie is 2-25 against Baylor"

- KSU WBB website, 13 Feb 2023

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I know he won last year, but when was the other victory?
Last year was the first time we lost to KSt since 2003 or 2004, and TCU hasn't beaten us since SWC days.

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DEC 4, 1995
Arkansas State defeats Baylor 64-57 in Waco
Jeff Mittie was the head coach of Arkansas State from 1995-1999

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whitetrash said:

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slimecap said:

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whitetrash said:

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slimecap said:

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Note
"Jeff Mittie is 2-25 against Baylor"

- KSU WBB website, 13 Feb 2023

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I know he won last year, but when was the other victory?
Last year was the first time we lost to KSt since 2003 or 2004, and TCU hasn't beaten us since SWC days.

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DEC 4, 1995
Arkansas State defeats Baylor 64-57 in Waco
Jeff Mittie was the head coach of Arkansas State from 1995-1999

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After all these years, I still miss Johnny.

I think baylor girls are not talented enough to play fast … they have too many turnovers.. awful passes at least 20 turnovers per game.. slow it down and get more shots ..

Bear3 said:

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Baylor is 2 games behind UT/OU not 4. They have lost 3 games and we have lost 5. Still unlikely we will win Big 12 this year. We just need to finish season strong and hope for no more injuries.

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True, but mathematically we still have a chance for a tie.
We have three home games and three road games left with Texas in Austin and Iowa State at home being the toughest.
Texas has two home games and two road games left with Oklahoma in Norman and Baylor in Austin being the toughest.
We defiantly have the toughest challenge !!
SO.
We run the table (not an easy task by any means).- 5 Big 12 Losses
Texas loses to Oklahoma and BU.- 5 Big 12 Losses
Tied for first
Oklahoma loses to Oklahoma State - 6 Big 12 Losses
Iowa State loses to BU - 6 Big 12 Losses
Tied for second

Do we choose to not guard the 3 point line?

Why are we just jacking up any 3's and then we don't defend the 3's on the other end

Baylorkid said:

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Why are we just jacking up any 3's and then we don't defend the 3's on the other end

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Have you not watched the team? It's the CNC style. It's why we're down almost double digits at half. It's ineffective at the college level yet CNC will live and die by that shot.

bawitdaball said:

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Baylorkid said:

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Why are we just jacking up any 3's and then we don't defend the 3's on the other end

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Have you not watched the team? It's the CNC style. It's why we're down almost double digits at half. It's ineffective at the college level yet CNC will live and die by that shot.

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We are so bad offensively and defensively

When's the last time we lost 3 in a row?

Baylorkid said:

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When's the last time we lost 3 in a row?

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2008. Last two regular season games to OKST and @Aggy, then conference tournament to UT. But we had lost Jhasmin Player to ACL and Rachel Allison to foot problems by then.

Guessing we need to just trust the process.

I can't believe Ja'mee is actually playing a good game! I'm shocked but happy for her!

Baylorkid said:

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I can't believe Ja'mee is actually playing a good game! I'm shocked but happy for her!

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Once I say that she makes some bone headed plays!

Is it just me, or does CNC seem to wear a size 28 shoe?

They don't even look like they care. Andrews jacks up a missed 3 and then smiles. This hurts!

I guess we won't be back in the win column tonight! C'mon ladies! You guys can play better than this

Sad I thought for sure it would be better.

So what are people's excuses for why we lost this game?

Baylorkid said:

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So what are people's excuses for why we lost this game?

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That's easy.....GUARD play. It's been the problem all year long.

Two weeks ago I posted that Baylor is sloppy. One week ago, I posted Baylor is pitiful. Tonight, I have run out of adjectives to describe this team.

What is the solution in your opinion. But let it be known CNC is NOT the problem imo.

Green&Gold/Maize&Blue said:

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Some "analysts" on the premium side blame Kim for leaving the cupboard bare.

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Lol that's always the excuse!

Green&Gold/Maize&Blue said:

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Some "analysts" on the premium side blame Kim for leaving the cupboard bare.

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My thing is that they want to blame Kim but then give Nicki credit for winning the big 12 last year with Kim's players. This year is mainly all nicki's players minus Bickle, Andrews and Owens. If we would've won the big 12 this year then I would've been amazed

HuttoBear said:

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Two weeks ago I posted that Baylor is sloppy. One week ago, I posted Baylor is pitiful. Tonight, I have run out of adjectives to describe this team.

What is the solution in your opinion. But let it be known CNC is NOT the problem imo.

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In attempting to understand your statement ... at what point does CNC become the problem?

The coach is responsible for the product put out on the court. That is literally their job. This team lacks discipline, gusto, and a will to want to play. I know many argued that Kim was hard on her players and that the college experience was structured. But we are seeing what happens when that structure doesn't exist. The flinging water in the locker room after winning any game isn't how a top program plays. The dismal energy is embarrassing, and if you allow your team to play that way, it is the coaches fault. At least in my opinion. She has to be held accountable for how her team plays. She also has to be held accountable for how she prepares her team. She can have amazing basketball IQ, but if she isn't presenting it in a way that her players are able to understand and perform, that is an issue with her, as a coach. Players have regressed since she arrived. Can you imagine Owens EVER dribbling down the middle of the lane and getting the ball stripped three possessions a row and still seeing the court the next game? Yet she just winds her arm around telling them to run with the ball. I've said it before and I'll continue to say it - she is coaching the team like a WNBA team when the team is not a WNBA team. The same process doesn't work and the same mentality doesn't jive. She has a 1st team all-conference and what should be the Freshman of the Year in the Big 12 and this is some of the worst basketball I've ever seen at Baylor. This reminds me of Sonia Hogg level bad during her final years.

We've discussed when was the last time that we lost three conference games in a row. When was the last time we lost back-to-back games against unranked opponents? And at what point do we hope they lose the rest of the games so it wakes up Mack and he starts a search? I didn't agree with the hire to begin with, I disagree with it even more now. Who gets offered a job at a marque program and then doesn't actually move there? How in the world was that ever approved? The whole process here is just unfortunate. Reminds me of when Gail G left Duke for Texas. She hated it in Austin and lost her fire. Right now I feel Karen Aston could do more with these players than she isand that's saying a lot!

So many questions I could start a podcast.

We will be lucky to get to the dance this year.

Eball said:

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We will be lucky to get to the dance this year.

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Well, this is a first - I actually agree Eball - the wheels have come off and I do not see them getting put back on by the end of the season. NIT is a possibility .... IF !!!!!

bawitdaball said:

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HuttoBear said:

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Two weeks ago I posted that Baylor is sloppy. One week ago, I posted Baylor is pitiful. Tonight, I have run out of adjectives to describe this team.

What is the solution in your opinion. But let it be known CNC is NOT the problem imo.

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In attempting to understand your statement ... at what point does CNC become the problem?

The coach is responsible for the product put out on the court. That is literally their job. This team lacks discipline, gusto, and a will to want to play. I know many argued that Kim was hard on her players and that the college experience was structured. But we are seeing what happens when that structure doesn't exist. The flinging water in the locker room after winning any game isn't how a top program plays. The dismal energy is embarrassing, and if you allow your team to play that way, it is the coaches fault. At least in my opinion. She has to be held accountable for how her team plays. She also has to be held accountable for how she prepares her team. She can have amazing basketball IQ, but if she isn't presenting it in a way that her players are able to understand and perform, that is an issue with her, as a coach. Players have regressed since she arrived. Can you imagine Owens EVER dribbling down the middle of the lane and getting the ball stripped three possessions a row and still seeing the court the next game? Yet she just winds her arm around telling them to run with the ball. I've said it before and I'll continue to say it - she is coaching the team like a WNBA team when the team is not a WNBA team. The same process doesn't work and the same mentality doesn't jive. She has a 1st team all-conference and what should be the Freshman of the Year in the Big 12 and this is some of the worst basketball I've ever seen at Baylor. This reminds me of Sonia Hogg level bad during her final years.

We've discussed when was the last time that we lost three conference games in a row. When was the last time we lost back-to-back games against unranked opponents? And at what point do we hope they lose the rest of the games so it wakes up Mack and he starts a search? I didn't agree with the hire to begin with, I disagree with it even more now. Who gets offered a job at a marque program and then doesn't actually move there? How in the world was that ever approved? The whole process here is just unfortunate. Reminds me of when Gail G left Duke for Texas. She hated it in Austin and lost her fire. Right now I feel Karen Aston could do more with these players than she isand that's saying a lot!

So many questions I could start a podcast.

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The last time we lost back to back games to unranked opponents was last year in CNC's first 2 conference games @KSt and @OU. From midway in the 2010 season thru 2021, we lost back to back games only twice: 2014 to UConn and @KU (the classic case of one loss leading to two; UConn was our first home loss in 4 years and we were still sulking at KU), and 2015 @IowaSt and @OU (we had clinched the conference title with 6 games left, had our on court celebration, then went on a 2 game road trip and obviously relaxed too much).

With respect to your other primary question: Chad Morris left SMU for Arkansas but his family stayed behind in Highland Park so Chandler could keep playing football there. He went 4-18 and was fired before the end of his second season.