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Shawn Bell to Remain at Baylor Despite Change in Offensive Direction

November 30, 2023
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Earlier Thursday afternoon, it was announced that Baylor would hire California offensive coordinator Jake Spavital for the same position. In addition, Shawn Bell will be retained on the offensive coaching staff and will coach the tight end position for the 2024 season. 

Bell, a former quarterback for Baylor (2003-06), has been on the coaching staff since December 2016. After starting as an offensive analyst, Bell has since coached the offensive line and tight ends and was named the quarterbacks coach in January 2021.

Under Bell’s coaching, quarterback Gerry Bohanon earned All-Big 12 Honorable Mention and finished 2021 with 27 total touchdowns, which tied for second-most in the Big 12. In the last two seasons, quarterback Blake Shapen has thrown for over 4,500 passing yards and 31 touchdowns across 21 starts.

It has not been confirmed yet whether the remaining offensive coaches, including running backs coach AJ Steward, receivers coach Dallas Baker and offensive line coach Eric Mateos, will be retained.

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Shawn Bell to Remain at Baylor Despite Change in Offensive Direction

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BellCountyBear
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7:07p, 11/30/23
Why? What has he done as a coach at Baylor that's noteworthy?
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7:08p, 11/30/23
Most interesting change of assignment, on many levels. Yes?
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In reply to BellCountyBear • 7:12p, 11/30/23
BellCountyBear said:
Why? What has he done as a coach at Baylor that's noteworthy?


That's what I was asking in the other thread. Many seem to like him, but nobody is willing to list 10 factual, non-speculative accomplishments that bell can take credit for since he has been here. And he's been here for years, so there's got to be some. If anyone here has had a six-figure job at a company for several years, and the owner of the company called and asked what you have accomplished since being at the company, I would hope that you would be able to provide something concrete. It's not unreasonable to ask the same of Bell

If he was a good offensive line coach, tight end coach, and quarterback coach, then why does he keep getting moved around every couple years. Good position coaches move up, then don't typically make multiple lateral moves over several years on the same team
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9:08p, 11/30/23
There's an old saying in sports. "When you lose to Texas State you've established a culture of losing and the only way to cleanse that lust for losing is to remove everyone from the AD all the way down to the cashier at the hot dog window." It's an old saying. I didn't make it up.
Let’s Go!
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7:37a, 12/1/23
"Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution."

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In reply to BUDOS • 10:41a, 12/1/23
BUDOS said:
"Stay away from negative people, they have a problem for every solution."



The sunshine pumpers on the premium board have an insult prepared to counter every fact
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11:30a, 12/1/23
Part of Novosad's reason for switching to Oregon was NIL.

The other part was BU football failing to give Drones and Zeno adequate opportunity to develop as QBs or to deliberately develop them to starter level. Bohanon was given that opportunity and made the most that he could with it. Given, he was never a great passer and that showed at USF as well. Even so, his career QBR (according to ESPN) is 10 points higher than Shapen's, with Drones and Zeno even higher.

I've always had the sense that at the end of the day Bell made his QB decisions on a single criterion: who do I "like" the most (or maybe who "likes" me the most)? I could be wrong about that, but if such were really the case, that in itself would be reason enough to move him from QBs coach to another responsibility, especially at the point of being able to recruit, and land, higher caliber QBs.
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In reply to canoso • 11:41a, 12/1/23
This tracks.
"Who do I like" is reflected in our running back room as well.
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11:57a, 12/1/23
As I've said before, any goodwill from his heroics vs Aggy is well past the expiration date. Time to move on.
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In reply to PaperBear89 • 12:30p, 12/1/23
PaperBear89 said:
As I've said before, any goodwill from his heroics vs Aggy is well past the expiration date. Time to move on.
Nailed it!
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In reply to canoso • 12:58p, 12/1/23
canoso said:
Part of Novosad's reason for switching to Oregon was NIL.

The other part was BU football failing to give Drones and Zeno adequate opportunity to develop as QBs or to deliberately develop them to starter level. Bohanon was given that opportunity and made the most that he could with it. Given, he was never a great passer and that showed at USF as well. Even so, his career QBR (according to ESPN) is 10 points higher than Shapen's, with Drones and Zeno even higher.

I've always had the sense that at the end of the day Bell made his QB decisions on a single criterion: who do I "like" the most (or maybe who "likes" me the most)? I could be wrong about that, but if such were really the case, that in itself would be reason enough to move him from QBs coach to another responsibility, especially at the point of being able to recruit, and land, higher caliber QBs.

In addition to all the good points you made here I have always asked Who has this guy developed at QB?
A bunch of folks here expressed that Gerry Bohannon was a terrible passer. But did his coach provide him adequate instruction to improve his mechanics? No he didn't. And it continued through Shapen. 11 games in dude was still throwing off his back foot.
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In reply to Daveisabovereproach • 12:13a, 12/2/23
No Quarterback said:
BellCountyBear said:
Why? What has he done as a coach at Baylor that's noteworthy?


That's what I was asking in the other thread. Many seem to like him, but nobody is willing to list 10 factual, non-speculative accomplishments that bell can take credit for since he has been here. And he's been here for years, so there's got to be some. If anyone here has had a six-figure job at a company for several years, and the owner of the company called and asked what you have accomplished since being at the company, I would hope that you would be able to provide something concrete. It's not unreasonable to ask the same of Bell

If he was a good offensive line coach, tight end coach, and quarterback coach, then why does he keep getting moved around every couple years. Good position coaches move up, then don't typically make multiple lateral moves over several years on the same team


He was brought to the program not just because he is an alumni. He was hired because of his ties to TX HS Football.

From what I have heard he was probably groomed from a young age to be a HC not an AC.

I think he deserves his spot if he wants it.
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In reply to DoubleBearClaw • 6:02a, 12/2/23
DoubleBearClaw said:
No Quarterback said:
BellCountyBear said:
Why? What has he done as a coach at Baylor that's noteworthy?


That's what I was asking in the other thread. Many seem to like him, but nobody is willing to list 10 factual, non-speculative accomplishments that bell can take credit for since he has been here. And he's been here for years, so there's got to be some. If anyone here has had a six-figure job at a company for several years, and the owner of the company called and asked what you have accomplished since being at the company, I would hope that you would be able to provide something concrete. It's not unreasonable to ask the same of Bell

If he was a good offensive line coach, tight end coach, and quarterback coach, then why does he keep getting moved around every couple years. Good position coaches move up, then don't typically make multiple lateral moves over several years on the same team


He was brought to the program not just because he is an alumni. He was hired because of his ties to TX HS Football.

From what I have heard he was probably groomed from a young age to be a HC not an AC.

I think he deserves his spot if he wants it.


lol. No he is here because he beat A&M nearly 20 years ago. If he was good at his position they would not keep bouncing him around the offense. If he is as great as you all think why is he not on anyone's radar to be poached from Baylor
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8:01a, 12/2/23
We have not developed QB's since Briles was here.
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In reply to ImwithBU • 8:19a, 12/2/23
That is a reason but not the only reason.
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1:55p, 12/2/23
Dude keeps surviving somehow.

He must have pictures........
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In reply to DoubleBearClaw • 11:10p, 12/2/23
DoubleBearClaw said:
That is a reason but not the only reason.


Well he is a local kid. I'm sure his family knows some donors or may be donors to Baylor. I'm pretty sure his brother was hired as well
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