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Baylor, Rhule look for first win by controlling the clock against K-State

September 28, 2017
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Through three games, Baylor’s offense was a mixed bag that has relied on random big-time plays to stay competitive. And like Baylor of years past, penalties have been the bane of its existence. Against Oklahoma in week four, that trend started to shift as Baylor won the time of possession battle for the first time all year after holding the ball under 22 minutes the three weeks prior.

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Baylor junior Terence Williams is in need of a larger role against Kansas State in his second week back to action.

It’s not quite the team Rhule wanted but its started to form to his sensibilities. A win at Kansas State would be a further mark in the right direction as Baylor will have to match the discipline and patience that’s been the hallmark for Bill Snyder coached teams.

“That’s who I was in a previous life,” Rhule joked Wednesday. “It’s really a great way to play football.

“They’re probably very methodical like us, what we’re trying to become. I think that’s why we were really efficient Saturday. We didn’t want to waste any plays. We wanted to get in the right play. We wanted to make sure every play was a good play and I think that’s really what [Kansas State does].”

Methodical or not, Baylor ran 85 plays for 523 yards, including seven drives of at least two minutes. The Bears had only 13 drives of at least two minutes in the first three games.

WATCH: Head coach Matt Rhule previews K-State trip

While Rhule laughed about previously running an offense like K-State, there was an air of comfort he reverted to talking about that “previous life” he sees in the Wildcats. After showing some signs of that styling against Oklahoma, a full-blown conversion could bring the first win of the season. 

Not that Baylor has to be an exact replica of KSU but an attempt to mirror what’s propelled the Wildcats to seven straight bowl games shouldn’t hurt. That starts with the run game, an area Rhule’s itching to get back on track as his offense hasn't reached 100 yards rushing in the last two games.

“We have to find a way to run the football,” Rhule said. “I don’t care if we have to run the triple option.”

While Kansas State doesn’t run the triple option, Snyder is one of the pioneers of the spread option offense which Jesse Ertz has settled into nicely the past couple years under center. He crossed a thousand yards last season with 12 TDs and is again the team’s leading rusher with a solid 5.4 yards per attempt while considerably boosting his passing efficiency thanks to better downfield work. Rhule compared Ertz to Tim Tebow being an h-back disguised as a quarterback, ready to run through defenses.

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Zach Smith has shown ability to find running lanes when the Bears have needed yards on the ground.

Zach Smith isn’t an h-back under center. Rhule didn’t rule out the possibility of Smith running more but it wouldn’t necessarily be through designed runs. After coming within a touchdown of Oklahoma thanks to running a down-tempo attack, it’s going to be on the running backs and the beaten up offensive line to tire the KSU defense and chew the clock.

Terence Williams’ debut performance of 26 yards on 11 carries is of less inspiration than hoped but Rhule is keeping in mind it was Williams’ first game back from an injury and running behind a disheveled o-line. He said he expects to use his starting tailback more this week in hopes to keep a steady tempo and see some increased production from the backfield as a whole.

If Baylor learned anything from its last meeting with KSU, it’s that letting Snyder control the clock is nearly unstoppable as the Wildcats won the clock battle by 16 minutes. Their loss to Vanderbilt this year came with a 50/50 split of the clock, the benchmark Baylor looks to meet and come out with the first win of the season.

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Baylor, Rhule look for first win by controlling the clock against K-State

9,551 Views | 18 Replies | Last: 6 yr ago by Mothra
la1037
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And this attitude is why we are 0-4.

We have a team full of players designed to run the spread and this knucklehead can't see that.

We were successful against OU because we decided to do what needed to be done on offense rather than squeeze a square peg into a round hole just because it fits Rhule's Big East football fantasy.

hodedofome
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la1037 said:

And this attitude is why we are 0-4.

We have a team full of players designed to run the spread and this knucklehead can't see that.

We were successful against OU because we decided to do what needed to be done on offense rather than squeeze a square peg into a round hole just because it fits Rhule's Big East football fantasy.




Agree
John Hawk
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la1037 said:

And this attitude is why we are 0-4.

We have a team full of players designed to run the spread and this knucklehead can't see that.

We were successful against OU because we decided to do what needed to be done on offense rather than squeeze a square peg into a round hole just because it fits Rhule's Big East football fantasy.


Absolutely right and here's the stats to back that up:

Of the 14 TD drives this season, 12 were 2 minutes or less, 1 was 3:36, 1 was 2:30.
Of the 20 drives over 2 minutes, only 2 resulted in a TD, 3 in FGs and 15 with no points.

So if a drive lasts longer than 2 minutes, there's a good chance we won't score, and trying to win by controlling the clock is a losing strategy.
hodedofome
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But a 9-6 snooze fest is exactly what these Yankees fantasize about. They think us B12 boys have lost our way and need to be redeemed.
vanillabryce
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I think the best way to beat them is to control the scoreboard by scoring more points than them.
ColomboLQ
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vanillabryce said:

I think the best way to beat them is to control the scoreboard by scoring more points than them.
I'll take our chances with that strategy.
GhettoHEBear
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Nobody is gonna outclock the wizard.

The only way to beat the purple wizard is attack, attack, attack.
Oso Pardo
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GhettoHEBear said:

Nobody is gonna outclock the wizard.

The only way to beat the purple wizard is attack, attack, attack.
Agree with this 100%.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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vanillabryce said:

I think the best way to beat them is to control the scoreboard by scoring more points than them.
Hell no. Not complete game. Not enough time in practice spent punting and kicking field goals. Those track meet offenses arent good for anything but winning games. We won the time of possession against the top rated team in our conference. We won it. Celebrate.

We had a kicker make a long field goal to make the game closer. Celebrate.

We sacked the other teams qb and started a whole thread trashing him. Celebrate

We probably do more community work than OU. Celebrate

The had more unsportsmanlike penalties than we did. Celebrate

We beat the spread. Celebrate

We earned our score by working instead of acting like it was a damn track meet. Celebrate

Our DC never coached at A&M. Celebrate

Our defense only gave up one (1) ninety nine yard touchdown. Celebrate

Trust the process and lower your expectations. Winning isnt everything.
ColomboLQ
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

vanillabryce said:

I think the best way to beat them is to control the scoreboard by scoring more points than them.
Hell no. Not complete game. Not enough time in practice spent punting and kicking field goals. Those track meet offenses arent good for anything but winning games. We won the time of possession against the top rated team in our conference. We won it. Celebrate.

We had a kicker make a long field goal to make the game closer. Celebrate.

We sacked the other teams qb and started a whole thread trashing him. Celebrate

We probably do more community work than OU. Celebrate

The had more unsportsmanlike penalties than we did. Celebrate

We beat the spread. Celebrate

We earned our score by working instead of acting like it was a damn track meet. Celebrate

Our DC never coached at A&M. Celebrate

Our defense only gave up one (1) ninety nine yard touchdown. Celebrate

Trust the process and lower your expectations. Winning isnt everything.
I wish I could rep this 100x more.
80sBEAR
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I reckon I would rather control the scoreboard than control the clock. But I am a very simple man.
"This is not an institution of football."
-- Dr. David Garland
timetraveler
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We better make sure not to get too many yards at at time then. That was always Art's problem in his 70-20 wins. He just scored too fast. A damn shame.
xiledinok
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I just hope our coaches don't make asses out of themselves like the ones did last year.
Bill Snyder blew up that tank.
hodedofome
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When we beat KSU in the past it's because we created turnovers. We scored our points, we couldn't stop their running game...we won because we got an INT late in the game.
PartyBear
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Rhule said last week he took the head sets off an let the offensive coaches do whatever they wanted. That seemed to create the best results thus far. If we go back to what we did the first three games because he has decided to micro manage again, then I think we might have an idiot on our hands. Seriously we could win this game if we play like last Saturday. The team against Liberty and UTSA goes an inexcusable 0-12. Rhule needs to let go and let his offensive staff control the offense..that is if he likes having this 4 million a year job.
FWBear91
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John Hawk said:


Of the 14 TD drives this season, 12 were 2 minutes or less, 1 was 3:36, 1 was 2:30.
Of the 20 drives over 2 minutes, only 2 resulted in a TD, 3 in FGs and 15 with no points.

So if a drive lasts longer than 2 minutes, there's a good chance we won't score, and trying to win by controlling the clock is a losing strategy.

Good stat. Please forward to Coach Rhule!


"I think the best way to beat them is to control the scoreboard by scoring more points than them."

Amen to that. Reminds me of Doug Collins's famous quote: "Any time Detroit scores more than 100 points and holds the other team below 100 points, they almost always win."
atxtraveler
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The number one metric we need to hold this team accountable toward is this...

Did they have fun? Because that is what it is all about.
Sic 'em
Mothra
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So in other words, let's abandon the offensive philosophy that almost allowed us to knock off the #2 team in the country.

Makes perfect sense.
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