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If This Secondary Can Simply Just Get Better, This Is a Dangerous Team | Ricky Thompson

November 12, 2024
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Ricky Thompson, Baylor Football Sideline Analyst joins 365 Sports to discuss his thoughts on Baylor coming off a bye week in week 11, if the bye came at a a good time, can Baylor finally beat West Virginia in Morgantown, his thoughts from the game against TCU and the spark it gave this team and more.

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If This Secondary Can Simply Just Get Better, This Is a Dangerous Team | Ricky Thompson

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5:11p, 11/12/24
Much easier said than done imo. These are multi year guys who just simply aren't good enough. And I'm sure it's not for lack of effort.
It's incredibly hard to scheme around poor safety play
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In reply to IowaBear • 9:40p, 11/12/24
IowaBear said:
Much easier said than done imo. These are multi year guys who just simply aren't good enough. And I'm sure it's not for lack of effort.
It's incredibly hard to scheme around poor safety play

I'm wondering what the issue is with the secondary. Is it a speed issue, recognition issue, or training issue? I admit I don't watch plays specifically focused on the secondary lately, especially since they're just in a soft zone. But I wonder.

If it's a development issue, then one can hope they develop. If it's a talent issue, then I guess there's little hope at all.
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8:17a, 11/13/24
1) lack of speed
2) poor development

4.6-4.7 safeties can't cover 4.4 receivers very well. What we see week in and week out are our safeties following receivers with their backs to the ball. You have to have speed to keep receivers in front of you, and the development to know how to look back and find the football and react to it. We have neither on the back end.

It's the result of recruiting average HS DB's and trying to make safeties out of them. Rhule always went after track guys at safety then developed them over 2-3 years. Without the speed, nothing will change.
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In reply to dstaylor57 • 8:29a, 11/13/24
Speed is part of it. But the instincts of our safeties is rather horrendous. They see/react late to almost everything. We see that constantly with horrible angles and WR's running past them before they even process. The reality is we're stuck with them for 3 more games and they'll continue getting absolutely abused. No idea what year they are but that HAS to be a priority this off season. Can't start the 25 season with those 2 at the safety position
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10:13a, 11/13/24
We have coachable coverage problems exacerbated by a lack of consistent pass rush. I'd play them back and have them move in versus playing up and letting receivers get past them up the field.
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11:12a, 11/13/24
Powledge just looks like a disaster.
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 1:00p, 11/13/24
Doc Holliday said:
We have coachable coverage problems exacerbated by a lack of consistent pass rush
Lack of pressure is definitely a problem.
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In reply to Robert Wilson • 1:28p, 11/13/24
Robert Wilson said:
Powledge just looks like a disaster.
He should be a special teams coordinator exclusively. He's good at that.
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In reply to jikespingleton • 2:09p, 11/13/24
jikespingleton said:
Doc Holliday said:
We have coachable coverage problems exacerbated by a lack of consistent pass rush
Lack of pressure is definitely a problem.
If you're going to zone the secondary, you've got to put pressure on the QB or he will pick you apart.
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2:16p, 11/13/24
I'm not sure I'll ever get over the stupidity of this secondary on the last play of the Colorado game. I don't think you can coach that level of stupidity out of them.
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In reply to osogreen • 3:17p, 11/13/24
osogreen said:
jikespingleton said:
Doc Holliday said:
We have coachable coverage problems exacerbated by a lack of consistent pass rush
Lack of pressure is definitely a problem.
If you're going to zone the secondary, you've got to put pressure on the QB or he will pick you apart.
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