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Gameday Thread: Baylor at TCU

November 24, 2017
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BAYLOR (1-10) vs. TCU (9-2)

Amon G. Carter Stadium | 11:00 p.m. CT | FS1

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28 of 44 Depth Chart Spots Filled by Underclassmen

In the mid-week depth chart released by Baylor football prior to the final game of the 2017 football season, a total of 28 freshmen and sophomores were listed in the 44 available offensive and defensive positions.

The season has been a disappointing one for Matt Rhule's first in Waco, but the encouragement that comes from developing youth of a program that was challenged with player departures and dismissals over the last 18 months. The departures allowed for several underclassmen to play key roles throughout the season.

On offense a total of 13 freshmen and sophomore are listed in the 22 spots while on defense a total of 15 have made the depth chart. Highlighting the offensive groups is freshman QB Charlie Brewer, sophomore WR Denzel Mims and LG Xavier Newman. On defense sophomore DT Tyrone Hunt, sophomore LB Jordan Williams, freshman LB Jalen Pitre and sophomore CB Grayland Arnold are among the biggest contributors.

The theme for the matchup with TCU doesn't stray far from the theme for the entire season. A total of 33 freshmen and sophomore have earned starts, including 10 true freshmen.


SIDENOTE STORYLINE

Charlie Brewer gets fourth start against elite TCU defense

Heading into start No. 4 of his young career, Baylor freshman quarterback Charlie Brewer will need to be efficient and consistent if the Bears have any chance of finding victory against the TCU Horned Frogs on Black Friday. 

In his first three starts, Brewer has thrown for 310.0 yards per game on 71.8-percent completion with 7 touchdowns to only two interceptions. On the entire season Brewer has thrown for 1,261 yards with 9 touchdowns and 3 interceptions and led Baylor to their lone victory over the season against Kansas, 38-9.

Since taking over full time, Baylor's offense has averaged 436.3 yards of total offense while averaging 25 points per game. The biggest issues for Brewer in the three starts has been the protection of the football. Despite not having a single turnover in his start against Kansas, Brewer has been responsible for four total against Texas Tech and Iowa State, three of which came in the red zone.


MATT RHULE QUOTE OF THE WEEK

On the progress made in recent weeks...

“Yeah even on Saturday I think we had two ridiculous, our guys would say, pass plays which we would like to have back. You take that away, for being down some guys, I thought our guys hung in there and competed. I think it’s clicking for a lot of guys. I think our corners played at a high, high level on Saturday. You’re playing with some veterans out there who have played a lot of football, but it’s just such a different way of playing defense, not better not worse just different, that takes time to get adjusted to. It takes time for all the communication and the checks. They’re getting it. You’d love to go play another four or five games to help them get it. This will continue to develop through the offseason. It’ll continue to develop through the spring. They’ll look back in a year and be like, ‘oh my goodness, look where we were to where we are now.’ I did that for them after the Oklahoma State game film. I think I told you guys. Oklahoma State, we were upset. There were some questions. Why do we practice as hard as we do if we’re not getting the results we wanted? I had to go back and show them the football, not the results, but just the football and how much it had improved. And it’s come that far since then. Now you’ve lost some guys. You’ve lost some good players, but the guys that are out there playing have just improved, and improved, and improved. You look up this time next year, and Lenoy [Jones] and Jordan Williams, they won’t recognize themselves. They’re playing well, but they’ll be playing that much better. Our defensive line, they won’t recognize themselves. It takes time, but everyday kind of compounds on the day before.”


PLAYERS TO WATCH

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Charlie Brewer

Baylor will need to protect the football against a TCU team who presents the best defense in the Big 12. If Brewer can lead the offense efficiently, the Bears could have a chance for an upset in the final game of the 2017 season.

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Offensive Line

Protecting the football begins with protecting the quarterback. TCU is the best pass-rushing team in the Big 12 and the Baylor OL will need to find a way to keep Brewer off of his back in obvious passing situations.

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Connor Martin

The chances of Baylor putting up a significant amount of points against TCU is small, meaning field position will be crucial on Friday. Punter/placekicker Connor Martin has had more success kicking field goals than punting, but he hasn't been too shabby when trying to flip field position.

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JaMycal Hasty

Hasty has emerged as Baylor's lead back in the last two games and will likely get the lion's share of the carries against TCU on Friday. His shiftiness will be useful, but so will his ability to catch passes out of the backfield against a very sound defense.

Discussion from...

Gameday Thread: Baylor at TCU

77,565 Views | 460 Replies | Last: 6 yr ago by YoakDaddy
RioRata
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Tommy_Lou_Ramsower said:

tommie said:

Anyone Black Friday shopping? Wow, there are some great sales.
I can't go shopping now. I am too upset. Big12boss is gone and I didn't even get to know him.

Did I miss something? What happened?
boognish_bear
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Can we cover the 25 pt spread?
SicThe12
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Good News

Sportcenter will show that safety and TD since we were winning 9-0

Bad news

Fat Pat will show no mercy now
Tommy_Lou_Ramsower
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He got banned.
SicThe12
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RioRata said:

Tommy_Lou_Ramsower said:

tommie said:

Anyone Black Friday shopping? Wow, there are some great sales.
I can't go shopping now. I am too upset. Big12boss is gone and I didn't even get to know him.

Did I miss something? What happened?
he got banned in another thread LOL
Boatshoes
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And laundry negates the TD.
Bear8084
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Lol, these refs...
SIC EM 94
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That is such a BS garbage call wiping out the TD!
boognish_bear
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Nice!
Mitch Blood Green
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Why not run #22?
SicThe12
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Porter climbed to the second level on a pass play.. what was he thinking?????
ImwithBU
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Lynch should be pissed that they are he'll bent on putting him on defense next year
hodedofome
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Interesting, throwing the ball downfield actually works. So of course we won't do that again all game.
Bull
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Worst call I've ever seen on the illegal man down field. Good mental toughness to follow up with a great play
SicThe12
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Give.Lovett.The.Ball.
boognish_bear
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BS...total PI there!
Bear8084
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hodedofome said:

Interesting, throwing the ball downfield actually works. So of course we won't do that again all game.


Lol. Stop.
Mitch Blood Green
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IF HOLDING a guys right arm isn't interference, there's no interference.
Jacques Strap
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We ain't getting any calls fromthese zebras. DB does not play the ball and has both hands onthe WR. no call.
Bull
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boognish_bear said:

BS...total PI there!


Dude was holding mim's hand down
RioRata
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SicThe12 said:

RioRata said:

Tommy_Lou_Ramsower said:

tommie said:

Anyone Black Friday shopping? Wow, there are some great sales.
I can't go shopping now. I am too upset. Big12boss is gone and I didn't even get to know him.

Did I miss something? What happened?
he got banned in another thread LOL

Which thread? How the HELL does that guy get banned and Nilli Vagina is allowed to troll month after month???
Bear8084
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boognish_bear said:

BS...total PI there!


It's not our day when they will call a lineman 3 yards down the field inelligable receiver downfield and miss a blatant PI and what looks like a leaping call.
boognish_bear
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This game is gonna take 5 hours with all the flags and reviews
ImwithBU
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I usually don't botch about the refs nut this is looking more the Big 12 is trying to ensure it's highest ranked teams play next week. TCU is going to win this game they don't need help
Mitch Blood Green
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I Feel for these mods.
Mitch Blood Green
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Bear8084 said:

boognish_bear said:

BS...total PI there!


It's not our day when they will call a lineman 3 yards down the field inelligable receiver downfield and miss a blatant PI and what looks like a leaping call.


From the mid cities, that's leaping and PI.
Bear8084
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tommie said:

Bear8084 said:

boognish_bear said:

BS...total PI there!


It's not our day when they will call a lineman 3 yards down the field inelligable receiver downfield and miss a blatant PI and what looks like a leaping call.


From the mid cities, that's leaping and PI.


The commentators are even talking about it.
perrynative
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Refs are terrible.
SIC EM 94
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At least the announcers are calling out the refs. Not that it does Baylor any good.
boognish_bear
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ImwithBU said:

I usually don't botch about the refs nut this is looking more the Big 12 is trying to ensure it's highest ranked teams play next week. TCU is going to win this game they don't need help


The announcers are even talking about how the refs are hosing us. How the hell did they pick up that flag on that FG?

That was a real difference maker call. Would have been 15 yards and have us at 1st and goal.

We can't beat TCU and the refs
Bear8084
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Score and we're back in it. But we have to get past the refs first.
Mitch Blood Green
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OUR reievers used to get separation.
geoman
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TCU corners and safeties aren't cooperating by turning around and running deep into their defensive backfield prior to the snap, thus not creating a void to be filled by our receivers and RBs.
Dungeon Athletics
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What? No flag?
GoldenBear007
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LET'S GO BABY!!!!!
 
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