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GameDay Thread: Baylor (1-0) travels to face West Virginia (1-1)

October 2, 2020
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Baylor vs. West Virginia Primer

Coming off their season opening victory over Kansas, Baylor (1-0) will hit the road for the first time this season to take on West Virginia (1-1) Saturday morning at 11 a.m. CT in a game that will be aired live nationally on ABC. 

Baylor opened the season with a dominant 47-14 performance against the Jayhawks last Saturday. The Bears 47 points came in a variety of different of ways including a passing touchdown, three rushing scores, a field goal, two kickoffs returned for scores and a safety on defense. 

West Virginia opened the season back on Sept. 12 with a dominating 56-10 victory over Eastern Kentucky where the Mountaineers rushed for 329 yards and five scores and threw for 295 and another three. In their second game, the Mountaineers fell to Big 12 opponent Oklahoma State 27-14 in Stillwater. 

The Bears and Mountaineers have played every season since 2012 with WVU winning five of the eight contest. Baylor won the contest a year ago in Waco, 17-14. 


Baylor OL will get big test against WVU’s DL

Written by Craig Smoak

Baylor’s season-opening win over Kansas featured plenty of highlights, but perhaps no performance was more encouraging than that of the offensive line.

Despite starters missing at center, right guard, and right tackle, Joe Wickline’s group allowed just one sack, while Charlie Brewer completed 15-of-23 and the Bears’ stable of running backs cruised over the Jayhawks to the tune of nearly 5.0 yards per rush. 

Now, in year four since the start of a total rebuild on the offensive line, Baylor has collected depth and experience, but showing continued improvement will require consistency. This week’s opponent is an early-season measuring stick against a defense that has been the stuff of nightmares for Baylor linemen the past three seasons. 

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As a freshman, Charlie Brewer led Baylor to a valiant comeback against West Virginia, but fell short in the final seconds of the game.

It was October 21, 2017, in Waco when the Charlie Brewer era began at Baylor. Down 38-13 with seconds remaining in the 3rd quarter, and well on their way to 0-7, first-year head coach Matt Rhule knew the team needed a shakeup when he put the true freshman from Lake Travis on the field. 

A week removed from making his first collegiate completion, the Austin native would throw his first career TD pass, and a second, as the Bears would outscore WVU 23-0 in the final period, falling just short, 38-36, when Brewer was sacked by linebacker Xavier Preston on the two-point attempt to tie with 17 seconds remaining. It was the sixth sack of the night for the Mountaineers. 

"We thought we had a good play to convert," Brewer said in the postgame. "I need to do a better job of getting rid of the ball in that situation.” 

Two weeks later, he would make his first of what has now grown to 31 career starts, where me led the 2017 Bears to their only win that season against Kansas. In the process, he’s taken a lot of hits, some due to his own stubbornness or misfortune, with quite a few due to a lack of time and protection.

That’s especially been the case against the ‘Eers. 

In 2018 during Baylor’s last trip to Morgantown, WVU crushed the Bears while intercepting the sophomore quarterback three times and allowing just 1-of-8 passing before knocking him out of the game in the 2nd quarter. The Mountaineers finished with 5.0 sacks and four forced turnovers on their way to a 58-14 blowout victory in front of a Thursday night national audience.

The showing was a tough pill to swallow for Rhule’s team, embarrassing even, but for a group known for overcoming adversity, the night ultimately turned into a bump in the road and additional building block in their rise back to prominence. 

Last season, amidst that rise, it was all about the defenses as Baylor outlasted West Virginia 17-14 at McLane Stadium, moving to 8-0 in the process. Brewer had a solid enough game statistically, throwing for 277 yards and two touchdowns on 20-of-26 passing, but the Bears’ OL allowed 8.0 sacks and were denied from the one-yard line on three straight plays to keep the score 7-0 just before halftime. 

Dating back to that nearly magical night in 2017, West Virginia’s defense has compiled 19.0 sacks and 36.0 tackles for loss in their last three contests against Baylor. The Sills’ brothers, Darius and Dante, combined for 5.0 takedowns alone last season. They duo returns, but without the same amount of depth and experience in their supporting cast. 

Things are also a bit different on Baylor’s side of the equation. New offensive coordinator Larry Fedora’s offense, for one, is designed to get the ball out of his quarterbacks hands quicker and should cause some decline in the pressure Brewer and company will no doubt face. 

An even bigger boost should be expected with the news starting center Xavier Newman-Johnson, starting right guard Blake Bedier, and new starting right tackle Jake Burton, a graduate transfer from UCLA, are all expected to make their season debuts on Saturday. That’s a heavy dose of reinforcements and experience for a group that looked sharper than many of their peers across the league and country last week. 

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Baylor expects senior starters Xavier Newman, Blake Bedier and Jake Burton to be back in action this weekend.

West Virginia head coach Neal Brown recruited and coached Charlie Brewer’s older brother Michael at Texas Tech. Brown made it clear to the media this week, he’s been mightily impressed by little brother. 

“The kid wins,” Brown said. “I don’t know what else you can say that’s better than that. He’s a winner. He comes from a winning family. His granddad was a winner. His dad was a winner. His brother was a winner. You know, it’s bred into him.”

“That’s as high of a compliment as I can give for Charlie.”

Brown also had plenty of praise for first-year head Dave Aranda and his staff, but one other comment, in particular, could bode well for the Bears this season and on Saturday. 

“The o-line is better, that's the thing that stuck out to me watching the game,” Brown said. “Their o-line is much improved.”

Add three more experienced starters to the mix, and the ingredients are there for a group that can consistently create lanes for a bevy of talented backs, protect their star QB, and allows him time to make throws to a speedy group of wide outs. 

As usual against West Virginia, this weekend will be a tough challenge across the board, even with no fans allowed at Milan Puskar Stadium. But, if it’s a test Aranda's Bears pass upfront, it could mean not only making history in Morgantown but perhaps making a lot more noise than expected in 2020. 


Baylor vs. West Virginia Preview & Prediction

Written by Sam Bradshaw (S11)

Baylor fans are understandably worried about the WVU pass rush but given that Baylor has 80% of a completely new offensive line and WVU hasn’t had as disruptive of a game since I am not thinking it will be the issue it was.  I think Baylor has the better home run hitters on offense.  Add to that how well Brewer completed the ball I can see Baylor keeping the chains moving.

On the other side of the ball I think WVU’s protection issues will be a big issue.  I don’t see WVU being able to grind out big drives on the ground and while their guys are good at breaking tackles for extra yards I think Baylor will have most of their full defensive line roster available as well.  Doege is the kind of QB that gives you a chance by protecting the ball and knowing where to go with it but I think Roberts & Aranda will be able to dial up pressure on him.

Last year I predicted 34-17 Baylor and after BU missed a few opportunities it ended up 17-14.  It won’t be pretty but Bears likely go to 2-0.  

Baylor 31, West Virginia 23

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GameDay Thread: Baylor (1-0) travels to face West Virginia (1-1)

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TheDaiyaanKing
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Exactly like does it look like I give a flying **** about the prez getting covid
ImABearToo
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Well you pretty much suck as a human being.
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SIC EM 94
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IowaBear said:

Timbear said:

Charlie, throw the damn Ball! Throw it deep! Are you incapable ? No deep throws in 6 quarters!

He's not capable over 30 yards, the last 3 years has shown that


Haha, you should let the coaches know. I'm sure they'll appreciate your wisdom.
TheDaiyaanKing
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I've heard that before yes
Mitch Henessey
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Not getting any positive traction on that stretch play.

Also, our interior OL is getting worked.
IowaBear
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Quick screens/Sloants anything to slow down their rush come on. Quit with the slow developing BS it's not working
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SIC EM 94 said:

IowaBear said:

Timbear said:

Charlie, throw the damn Ball! Throw it deep! Are you incapable ? No deep throws in 6 quarters!

He's not capable over 30 yards, the last 3 years has shown that

Show me this great arm he has? Oh wait you can't. I love Charlie but he doesn't have a big arm to say otherwise is laughable

Haha, you should let the coaches know. I'm sure they'll appreciate your wisdom.
PartyBear
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A little different from that 77-70 or whatever it was game in 12.
JumboShrimper
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First to 20 wins this game.
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PartyBear said:

A little different from that 77-70 or whatever it was game in 12.
70-63

A whole lot of offense, not so much defense--for both teams.

Our defense is keeping us in the game today. Too bad we could not convert all those WVU turnovers into Baylor points.
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IowaBear said:

Quick screens/Sloants anything to slow down their rush come on. Quit with the slow developing BS it's not working
Agreed. They need to go explosive and aggressive.
ImABearToo
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Fedora have any trick plays or some wrinkle to trip the defense? Such plain vanilla game plan. Play not to lose.
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SIC EM 94 said:

IowaBear said:

Timbear said:

Charlie, throw the damn Ball! Throw it deep! Are you incapable ? No deep throws in 6 quarters!

He's not capable over 30 yards, the last 3 years has shown that




Haha, you should let the coaches know. I'm sure they'll appreciate your wisdom.


A tad exaggerated but he is not threat deep. He is definitely a dink and dunk QB and has been that way since high school. It's fine if you move the ball, but this is a terrible showing on offense in general so far
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ImABearToo said:

Fedora have any trick plays or some wrinkle to trip the defense? Such plain vanilla game plan. Play not to lose.


That's why it seems like a return of Reedy's offense.
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9 years ago. That was a fun game. This is like a 1 to 1 soccer game.
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Dink and dunk. And another punt
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Big if
Wwbear
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Not impressed with Brewer right now. Slow making decisions and doesn't have the wheels to buy himself time.
IowaBear
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Man this is hard to watch! Throw the ball on first down Fedora my god. This team is struggling to even get positive yards let alone points
Chamberman
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OL is horrible!
Baylor187
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The offensive line is absolutely killing us. Charlie is having to run for his life.
Jacques Strap
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Gonna need more sacks and turnovers to give this offense a short field today. Just cannot handle that D line of WVU
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Wwbear said:

Not impressed with Brewer right now. Slow making decisions and doesn't have the wheels to buy himself time.

Careful to be critical of golden boy, the lynch mob will be out in full force. Long story short he's not getting it done. And he's getting zero help from this so called offensive line
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Can have the best offensive "skill" players but without a competent O line it doesn't matter.
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Aren't we supposed to have fast receivers? Take some shots, Fedora!
CaliByWayOfKS
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Our OLine is almost giving 1 guy every play a free run through the line... if there is a chip it is so minor it does nothing.

While I know the DLine of WV is supposed to be the best part of their team, but our Line is atrocious
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IowaBear
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I really wish we had at least one of those FGs right now
JumboShrimper
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God this game is sloppy.
BUBBFAN
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Offensive line looking bad. Defense not much better.
Baylor187
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The hurry up offense helped wear down the defense and bought time to pass. I really wish they would pick up the tempo.
Jacques Strap
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Pitre with excellent 3rd down open field tackle
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BUBBFAN said:

Offensive line looking bad. Defense not much better.


O line needs work. Defense has kept us in this game.
ImABearToo
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Zeno can chunk it far. Why not?
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ImABearToo said:

Zeno can chunk it far. Why not?


Wouldn't have time to.
Doc Holliday
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This defense is playing lights out
 
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