Solar Panels. Is it a Good Deal?

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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The wife and I gotta replace a hail damaged roof in the next month or two. Who here has gone solar? Does it dramatically affect your electric bill? What was the cost? I do not like the look of random rectangular solar panels on homes. Just not a good look. Might be open to solar panels on the back (northeast side of the house) but not the West/ Southwest side of the house which is the front. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I have no idea of the initial cost. Have not yet gotten an estimate.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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For the record, I am not a save the whales or save the planet guy. Don't give a rat's ass about any of that. Can solar panels save my family some money in utility costs going forward? Gonna do my best to learn what I can. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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BellCountyBear
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I got them in January and had a negative-balance electric bill last month. They also saved me about $10k on my income taxes.
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BellCountyBear said:

I got them in January and had a negative-balance electric bill last month. They also saved me about $10k on my income taxes.
So there are still tax breaks for installing solar panels? I did not realize that. Thanks.
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MaxTeller
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BellCountyBear said:

I got them in January and had a negative-balance electric bill last month. They also saved me about $10k on my income taxes.
So there are still tax breaks for installing solar panels? I did not realize that. Thanks.
You get a Federal ITC of 26% until 2023, then it drops to 22%
LIB,MR BEARS
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BellCountyBear said:

I got them in January and had a negative-balance electric bill last month. They also saved me about $10k on my income taxes.
how many square feet on the roof ( or are they measured another way)?

How does it impact your insurance regarding wind or hail damage?

Is there a useful life to the solar panels?

What other questions am I not asking that I should be?
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

BellCountyBear said:

I got them in January and had a negative-balance electric bill last month. They also saved me about $10k on my income taxes.
how many square feet on the roof ( or are they measured another way)?

How does it impact your insurance regarding wind or hail damage?

Is there a useful life to the solar panels?

What other questions am I not asking that I should be?
Excellent questions, LIB, MR. BEARS! I don't like the look of solar panels. Would not mind putting them on the back of my house (facing east) but am not excited at all about having them on the front of my house (facing west). Would solar panels on just one side be feasible? I don't know. Guess I will ask my power provider when they come out and give me an estimate.
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MaxTeller
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

BellCountyBear said:

I got them in January and had a negative-balance electric bill last month. They also saved me about $10k on my income taxes.
how many square feet on the roof ( or are they measured another way)?

How does it impact your insurance regarding wind or hail damage?

Is there a useful life to the solar panels?

What other questions am I not asking that I should be?
They look at your annual electric bill then size the KW needed to take out your bill or come in slightly lower than your annual bill. Most places it doesn't pay to over produce since the utility might only pay you 2 or 3 cents per KW hour for excess production. Say you average $200 per month or $2,400 annually spent on your electric bill they will then decide how many panels you need to produce that much annually.

Most panels will still produce at 80% of their original production after 25-30 years of use. Damn hard to damage them in a hail storm.

A lot depends on which way your roof slopes, if there are trees in the way etc. Still not convinced they are a good deal yet. Let's say it cost $30,000 after the ITC to put on your roof. At $2,400 per year it will take at least 12 years to pay them off. If you plan to be in your house for 25 years it might make sense. The one thing I haven't added in is that electric bills seem to rise around 3 to 5% per year so that will work in your favor. So take that $2,400 and increase it by 3% annually and that will shorten the payoff.

Make sure you have a great warranty and especially make sure you have a good warranty on the inverter(s) they use. Inverters are not cheap to replace. Your panels produce DC current so you need an inverter to turn the current into AC so it can be fed to the grid. Some systems have inline inverters on each panel so if one inverter goes out your whole system doesn't go out. If you have only one large inverter for the entire system and it goes out then you are producing no power until the inverter is replaced. Fronius makes good inverters and they have been around for quite some time. I'd stay away from some no name product.

https://www.cleanenergyreviews.info/blog/best-grid-connect-solar-inverters-sma-fronius-solaredge-abb

https://thephoenixsun.com/solar-inverter-manufacturers/

RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Thank you Max. Very informative post.
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MrGolfguy
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Max droppin' the knowledge
MaxTeller
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Thank you Max. Very informative post.
One other thing I forgot to mention is there is now a type of hybrid inverter out there (not sure if Fronius has one) but it has output lines on it that can go directly to a battery back up you might have to re-charge any batteries on your system. Then it will switch to pumping juice to the grid once the batteries are topped off. Might be worth considering one of the hybrid inverters to future proof your system. As battery technology improves (improvements are damn slow if you ask me) you might want to add battery backups in the future.

I am not sure of the cost differential in the different types of inverters. It might not pay but you never know until you ask.
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Inverters are key Panels vary by use but the technology is similar

Value depends on where you live and tax bracket
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