90sBear said:
I think I've read that same article (or some variation of it) every year for the last 119 years, give or take. "Baylor doesn't recruit well enough to compete against the UT's of the world", ad nauseam.
The author might want to learn that Title IX is not an NCAA rule. If he can't even understand that, there is hardly any point in taking anything he writes seriously.BUGWBBear said:tstuck said:
After escaping (for now) a potential NCAA death penalty for truly deplorable Title IX violations amidst a purported (and pretty well-proven) series of rape cover-ups, Baylor and new coach Matt Rhule are successfully recruiting talent to the program again.
Not to get in an argument about what may or may not have happened. But the statement "and pretty well-proven" is nonsense. More like pretty well speculated by the media.
Death Penalty? Whoever the ghey boy in bondage was that wrote that needs to be reminded that no one gets the death penalty. And if anyone deserved to get it more over the past 40 years, it'd be UT and OU.
RioRata said:
ODB article counters Cam Smith point by point.
https://www.ourdailybears.com/2017/8/3/16093176/no-baylor-football-is-not-recruiting-temple-quality-recruits-rhule-bears-big12-cam-smith
Russell Gym said:RioRata said:
ODB article counters Cam Smith point by point.
https://www.ourdailybears.com/2017/8/3/16093176/no-baylor-football-is-not-recruiting-temple-quality-recruits-rhule-bears-big12-cam-smith
Well-written rebuttal. Torched original author's points.
Oh Nooooooooooooooooo!harleyJspoon said:
SOME OF YOU NAY-SAYERS OUGHT TO JUST BE LONGHONR FANS...A LITTLE SETBACK AND YOU TRADE YOUR JOCKEY STRAPS IN FOR A BOX OF KT'S!
Surf Oso said:
Well, we'll just see how it pans out on the field. Surprisingly, Mr Smith fails to point out that Rhule, with a bunch of 2 stars and 3 stars with crappy facilities, won his conference and beat Herman which boasted new facilities and 3 star and 4 star players.
harleyJspoon said:
Mueller has it; Pence knows it; and sooner than later you will soon be drowning in the quicksand. 73% of Americans say they don't believe anything they hear out of the DJT White House. 24% still buy his BS. I had no doubt you'd be one of the 23%. Who in the hell is Boris Epshteyn--born in Russia; works for Sinclair Media Group; worked for Trumpty Dumpty! The Mountaineers will be in shock!
Just throwing this out there... Here is the link to the Eric Treszoks Politics, Religion, Etc. board.harleyJspoon said:
Mueller has it; Pence knows it; and sooner than later you will soon be drowning in the quicksand. 73% of Americans say they don't believe anything they hear out of the DJT White House. 24% still buy his BS. I had no doubt you'd be one of the 23%. Who in the hell is Boris Epshteyn--born in Russia; works for Sinclair Media Group; worked for Trumpty Dumpty! The Mountaineers will be in shock!
Don't you know that reported on by the media means proven?tstuck said:
After escaping (for now) a potential NCAA death penalty for truly deplorable Title IX violations amidst a purported (and pretty well-proven) series of rape cover-ups, Baylor and new coach Matt Rhule are successfully recruiting talent to the program again.
Not to get in an argument about what may or may not have happened. But the statement "and pretty well-proven" is nonsense. More like pretty well speculated by the media.
One.Kite23 said:tstuck said:
After escaping (for now) a potential NCAA death penalty for truly deplorable Title IX violations amidst a purported (and pretty well-proven) series of rape cover-ups, Baylor and new coach Matt Rhule are successfully recruiting talent to the program again.
Not to get in an argument about what may or may not happen. But the statement "and pretty well-proven" is nonsense. More like pretty well speculated by the media.
And we have yet to see more than 2 convictions in criminal court.
I believe Chatman and Armstead were charged/indicted as well about the same time Ukwuachu's conviction was overturned on appeal.cowboycwr said:One.Kite23 said:tstuck said:
After escaping (for now) a potential NCAA death penalty for truly deplorable Title IX violations amidst a purported (and pretty well-proven) series of rape cover-ups, Baylor and new coach Matt Rhule are successfully recruiting talent to the program again.
Not to get in an argument about what may or may not happen. But the statement "and pretty well-proven" is nonsense. More like pretty well speculated by the media.
And we have yet to see more than 2 convictions in criminal court.
One conviction at this point.
Sam U was appealed and overturned and I have not heard if he will actually be tried again.
Oakman is awaiting trial.
All of the other 17 or 52 or whatever number the media is going with these days, have not even been charged.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/big12/2017/03/23/sam-ukwuachu-baylor-sexual-assault-conviction-overturned/99530760/S11 said:
Where was Sam U overturned? Got a link?
I believe MCDA has appealed the appeal.PartyBear said:
Yes over turned and remanded back to the trial court to be tried again, if the DA's office wants to. It could turn out worse or better for Sam U if it is tried again. However that has been a while and I dont know what the DA is doing with it. It could be they have quietly decided to let it go and hope the media isn't paying attention and never asks them about it again.
RioRata said:
Oddly enough, the 10th Court only ruled on the first of SU's five points of appeal IIRC. Does this mean that Sam still has four aces in the hole? Yogi? X? Bueller? Bueller???
Google is your friend.S11 said:
Where was Sam U overturned? Got a link?
I forgot about those two because by the time they were charged they were not with the team any more.Brian Ethridge said:I believe Chatman and Armstead were charged/indicted as well about the same time Ukwuachu's conviction was overturned on appeal.cowboycwr said:One.Kite23 said:tstuck said:
After escaping (for now) a potential NCAA death penalty for truly deplorable Title IX violations amidst a purported (and pretty well-proven) series of rape cover-ups, Baylor and new coach Matt Rhule are successfully recruiting talent to the program again.
Not to get in an argument about what may or may not happen. But the statement "and pretty well-proven" is nonsense. More like pretty well speculated by the media.
And we have yet to see more than 2 convictions in criminal court.
One conviction at this point.
Sam U was appealed and overturned and I have not heard if he will actually be tried again.
Oakman is awaiting trial.
All of the other 17 or 52 or whatever number the media is going with these days, have not even been charged.
The Court of Appeals only ruled on 2 of six issues submitted on appeal. They denied one and sustained the other. The McLennan County DA appealed the reversal of his conviction to the Court of Criminal Appeals. We are waiting to see if the CCA will review the case. If the CCA reviews the case and overturns the Court of Appeals decision, the case will go back to the Court of Appeals to rule on the other issues it did not decide. From the tone and tenor of the oral argument in the Court of Appeals, there is a good chance the Court of Appeals would decide at least one of those issues in Sam's favor. If so, the case would likely go back to the CCA a second time. So we are a long way from a retrial, if there is one.RioRata said:
Oddly enough, the 10th Court only ruled on the first of SU's five points of appeal IIRC. Does this mean that Sam still has four aces in the hole? Yogi? X? Bueller? Bueller???
Just to clarify. Sam U's case is being appealed to the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals -- a 9 Judge court of last resort in Texas for appealing a ruling in criminal cases.RioRata said:
The DA (Reyna) is appealing the 10th Court's decision to the Texas Supreme Court. It's difficult to believe the Supreme Court will overturn the 10th Court so Reyna must feel that a 2nd trial wouldn't go so well...IMO.
