As per footballscoop.

Congratulations to him and Nebraska! I like this hire for them. I think they need to be prepared though for him always looking for the next best job and having a down year in Year 1 of his rebuild.

Big sales of red smocks too!

Congrats to Rhule! He is stepping into a better situation than he did here, and it is the B10, his orginal stomping grounds. A complete rebuild may not be required. Will be interesting to keep an eye on.

A "complete" rebuild might not be required but he likes to blow up season one so anything after looks way better

If the Big 10 keeps divisions past '23 that would benefit him.

I think that Nebraska has reached the point of patience with their new hire. Unreasonable expectations have been replaced by the reasonable.

I don't think he tries to blow things up. I think that was spin from his ardent supporters here. I suspect he will be more careful now with more experience etc.

That said I personally think this is an odd choice from both sides of this new marriage.

Jorkel said:

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A "complete" rebuild might not be required but he likes to blow up season one so anything after looks way better

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Not really. It was bad here as proven ad nauseum.

So I'm reading that Rhule will be paid the remainder of his contract at Carolina of $34 million for the next four years (albeit with some potential mitigation of that payout) while likely garnering nearly $9 million/year from Nebraska. I went into the wrong profession.

Obviously depending at least somewhat on how he does there, Nebraska better hope that the Penn State job doesn't open up for at least several more years.

Or Michigan, Ohio St, or Texas and Bama as well for that matter. Im not saying he will get those, but I suspect he tries.

Jorkel said:

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A "complete" rebuild might not be required but he likes to blow up season one so anything after looks way better

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Could blow up this Nebraska season with a single wet firecracker.

Jorkel said:

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A "complete" rebuild might not be required but he likes to blow up season one so anything after looks way better

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This is silly. Rhule is more control freak than egomaniac. He "blows up" programs to build them back up exactly how he wants to, not so he gets more credit when he gets them back on track. People dismiss "the process" as coach speak, but it's not. That's what he believes to be the best way to build a winning program. And so far, his track record in the college ranks is pretty damn good.

Grumpy said:

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So I'm reading that Rhule will be paid the remainder of his contract at Carolina of $34 million for the next four years (albeit with some potential mitigation of that payout) while likely garnering nearly $9 million/year from Nebraska. I went into the wrong profession.

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I don't know Grumpy, I think the key is to be happy in what you are doing and not having your life be in continual scrutiny by the media and by people (in this case fans) who are talking and writing out their rear ends about things of which they have no intimate knowledge or information that is actual factual and complete surrounding the position in which you work. And you had better like not having a life for most of the year because of games, recruiting, etc.

I often wonder how many people here would feel if the visible results of their work was available for all the world to see and to criticize every time and everything when something wasn't perfect in the public's eyes. I suspect to an unbiased observer, their job performance would not be anywhere near the standards they seem to expect of the coaching profession of the team they follow. But then again those people always come to work focused on their jobs, never have a bad day, or make a poor decision.

Coaches get paid way more than they should for supervising a game, but for many, if not most of them, they have no life. Money is not what makes people happy when all is said and done. I'm sure that those who have never had it believe it does, but money ensuring happiness is way down the list of things that do.

If you are happy and comfortable and you like what you do or did, you did not go into the wrong profession.

Note to self: never hire someone who aspires to do better.

Has anyone ever asked themselves why buyout clauses are in contracts? Are they there to protect the organization or the employee or both?

B10 West is the biggest joke in P5 football. Should be able to win that joke of a division almost yearly

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Jorkel said:

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A "complete" rebuild might not be required but he likes to blow up season one so anything after looks way better

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Could blow up this Nebraska season with a single firecracker.

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Which is precisely why it needs to be razed and rebuilt.

IowaBear said:

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B10 West is the biggest joke in P5 football. Should be able to win that joke of a division almost yearly

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The Big Ten is very likely eliminating divisions like everyone else has, so this will be a moot point by the time he has a team ready to compete.

Rhule will be competing in the worst P-5 division in college football, so he may have a decent year right out of the chute.

He can compete in the West day 1 if they're still in divisions next year. You need proof of that watch the B10 title game

PartyBear said:

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I don't think he tries to blow things up. I think that was spin from his ardent supporters here. I suspect he will be more careful now with more experience etc.

That said I personally think this is an odd choice from both sides of this new marriage.

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It's not a secret. And it wasn't spin. Matt Rhule told the fanbases at both Temple and Baylor what his plan for the program was. Some (like you apparently) just didn't want to listen.

Matt Rhule wants to control the culture and philosophy in every facet of his program. Often, the only way to get everyone aligned is to tear down to the foundation and build up.

I would bet money that Nebraska looks terrible in his first year as his players adjust to what he wants from them and how he wants them to play. I'd also bet money that they're winning a lot of games by Year 3.

blackie said:

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Grumpy said:

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So I'm reading that Rhule will be paid the remainder of his contract at Carolina of $34 million for the next four years (albeit with some potential mitigation of that payout) while likely garnering nearly $9 million/year from Nebraska. I went into the wrong profession.

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I don't know Grumpy, I think the key is to be happy in what you are doing and not having your life be in continual scrutiny by the media and by people (in this case fans) who are talking and writing out their rear ends about things of which they have no intimate knowledge or information that is actual factual and complete surrounding the position in which you work. And you had better like not having a life for most of the year because of games, recruiting, etc.

I often wonder how many people here would feel if the visible results of their work was available for all the world to see and to criticize every time and everything when something wasn't perfect in the public's eyes. I suspect to an unbiased observer, their job performance would not be anywhere near the standards they seem to expect of the coaching profession of the team they follow. But then again those people always come to work focused on their jobs, never have a bad day, or make a poor decision.

Coaches get paid way more than they should for supervising a game, but for many, if not most of them, they have no life. Money is not what makes people happy when all is said and done. I'm sure that those who have never had it believe it does, but money ensuring happiness is way down the list of things that do.

If you are happy and comfortable and you like what you do or did, you did not go into the wrong profession.

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Some go into that very same profession and are happy working with high school kids for 100k or so a year.

IowaBear said:

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He can compete in the West day 1 if they're still in divisions next year. You need proof of that watch the B10 title game

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Rhule's first team is going to be bad. Nebraska fans need to prepare themselves for that now.

I'd also be surprised if Iowa and Wisconsin aren't better next season.

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PartyBear said:

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I don't think he tries to blow things up. I think that was spin from his ardent supporters here. I suspect he will be more careful now with more experience etc.

That said I personally think this is an odd choice from both sides of this new marriage.

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It's not a secret. And it wasn't spin. Matt Rhule told the fanbases at both Temple and Baylor what his plan for the program was. Some (like you apparently) just didn't want to listen.

Matt Rhule wants to control the culture and philosophy in every facet of his program. Often, the only way to get everyone aligned is to tear down to the foundation and build up.

I would bet money that Nebraska looks terrible in his first year as his players adjust to what he wants from them and how he wants them to play. I'd also bet money that they're winning a lot of games by Year 3.

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I'll listen for when he tells the Husker nation his plan is to be really bad at first. If I miss it post it here for me. I really don't remember him telling Baylor folks that was the plan. I remember some after the fact saying that was the goal.

I'm not calling out names but I do remember a few of you were also saying Carolina would be in the Super Bowl in year 2 or 3.

PartyBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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PartyBear said:

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I don't think he tries to blow things up. I think that was spin from his ardent supporters here. I suspect he will be more careful now with more experience etc.

That said I personally think this is an odd choice from both sides of this new marriage.

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It's not a secret. And it wasn't spin. Matt Rhule told the fanbases at both Temple and Baylor what his plan for the program was. Some (like you apparently) just didn't want to listen.

Matt Rhule wants to control the culture and philosophy in every facet of his program. Often, the only way to get everyone aligned is to tear down to the foundation and build up.

I would bet money that Nebraska looks terrible in his first year as his players adjust to what he wants from them and how he wants them to play. I'd also bet money that they're winning a lot of games by Year 3.

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I'll listen for when he tells the Husker nation his plan is to be really bad at first. If I miss it post it here for me. I really don't remember him telling Baylor folks that was the plan.

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He called it a rebuild from the start? What exactly did you think he meant by that?

As I said all year to deaf ears in 2017, Rhule isn't trying to lose games, so it would be silly to come out and say that he is. But he cares more about laying the right foundation in Year 1 than he does about cutting corners for a few more wins.

Just saw his interview on GameDay..,8 yr deal.. mentioned Baylor several times..how he watched several Baylor guys he recruited get drafted..also gave props to Aranda.

It will be interesting to see if he can recruit Texas kids.

BellCountyBear said:

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It will be interesting to see if he can recruit Texas kids.

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Will also be interesting to see if he goes after some Baylor or Tech staff. Also, there is Elijah Robinson at TAMU. Rhule brought him from Temple to Baylor. He is also a Penn State guy.

Iowa loses a ton from their defense. They aren't going to be any better because they aren't going to evolve. Ferentz is living in dinosaur times offensively. They lucked into 7 wins thanks to a weak West per usual

FWIW, Nebraska's noncon schedule next year (@Colo, N Illinois, LaTech) is a combined 7-26 this year (pending today's outcomes).

Then again, Liberty/UTSA/Duke looked pretty soft too.

IowaBear said:

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Iowa loses a ton from their defense. They aren't going to be any better because they aren't going to evolve. Ferentz is living in dinosaur times offensively. They lucked into 7 wins thanks to a weak West per usual

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Iowa can typically reload on defense, so I don't think they'll drop off too dramatically there. And I think the pressure to change the offense will be too great not to, but I could be wrong. Ferentz is stubborn, but coaches make uncharacteristic decisions when they know their head is the next on the chopping block.

I just can't see any way his son survives this offseason as the OC or that Kirk survives another season like this one without making necessary changes to his staff.

Jorkel said:

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A "complete" rebuild might not be required but he likes to blow up season one so anything after looks way better

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Yep, rsum builder for leaving ASAP.

BBWCBear said:

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Jorkel said:

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A "complete" rebuild might not be required but he likes to blow up season one so anything after looks way better

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Yep, rsum builder for leaving ASAP.

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Nope.

Thanks, Blackie. I actually thoroughly enjoy what I do. I was simply being playful.

BellCountyBear said:

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It will be interesting to see if he can recruit Texas kids.

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Direct quote from a Texas HS Coach:

"Unless Matt is going to share his salary and pay a hefty NLI fee to a player, the message is clear that he puts himself above the kids. Let's see Matt stay more than three years before we take him seriously."

Matt is gonna find the terrain a bit different this time around.