Add SMU into that, as well.

UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

blackie said:

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Add SMU into that, as well.

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SMU killed itself and the SWC long, long ago.

University of OU Regents v. NCAA also hurt badly.

montypython said:

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UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

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It's only slightly about basketball.

JP1037 said:

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montypython said:

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UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

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It's only slightly about basketball.

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I thought all of this was about TV Market capitalization.

UConn has a much larger TV market than UA. So if its not TV Market (unless there is a separate way to quantify sports viewers) and only slightly about bball - what else could it be? It certainly isn't football prowess.

SMU and UConn are great candidates….for the new Pac 12!

montypython is the UConn AD

montypython said:

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JP1037 said:

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montypython said:

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UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

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It's only slightly about basketball.

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I thought all of this was about TV Market capitalization.

UConn has a much larger TV market than UA. So if its not TV Market (unless there is a separate way to quantify sports viewers) and only slightly about bball - what else could it be? It certainly isn't football prowess.

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If it were about market size Big 12 would already have SMU. They quantify sports viewers with ratings.

In the digital age it's more about the brand and running a successful sports program.

UConn deserves power 5. They are an amazing bb school but it's too far and isolated for the Big 12.

montypython said:

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I thought all of this was about TV Market capitalization.

UConn has a much larger TV market than UA. So if its not TV Market (unless there is a separate way to quantify sports viewers) and only slightly about bball - what else could it be? It certainly isn't football prowess.

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If you were trying to add subscriptions to a conference network, then yes. But that's not the big 12's model. It's more about adding as many national brands as possible. Brilliant move by Yormark to think outside the box and grab marquee programs in non-football sports. We definitely have the top billing in men's and woman's bb if uconn and Gonzaga join the conference. Does it bring in as many dollars as football? No. But it does bring in additional dollars.

JP1037 said:

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montypython said:

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JP1037 said:

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montypython said:

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UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

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It's only slightly about basketball.

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I thought all of this was about TV Market capitalization.

UConn has a much larger TV market than UA. So if its not TV Market (unless there is a separate way to quantify sports viewers) and only slightly about bball - what else could it be? It certainly isn't football prowess.

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In the digital age it's more about the brand and running a successful sports program.

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Not so sure about that. Colorado is literally one of the worst P5 program out there, if not the worst.

I'm starting to think it was a lack of pairing to go with UConn. i.e. There wasn't another school in the region to bring over with them. Perhaps that and distance.

No Quarterback said:

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SMU and UConn are great candidates….for the new Pac 12!

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Don't you mean Pac 6!

Moment of silence for Gonsaga.

historian said:

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No Quarterback said:

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SMU and UConn are great candidates….for the new Pac 12!

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Don't you mean Pac 6!

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The Six-Pac.

montypython said:

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JP1037 said:

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montypython said:

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UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

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It's only slightly about basketball.

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I thought all of this was about TV Market capitalization.

UConn has a much larger TV market than UA. So if its not TV Market (unless there is a separate way to quantify sports viewers) and only slightly about bball - what else could it be? It certainly isn't football prowess.

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Need to get into the Pacific Time Zone. UCONN takes a slot from the ACC when they implode next.

No Quarterback said:

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SMU and UConn are great candidates….for the new Pac 12!

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No, the PAC ___ is dead as a conference. It's not really possible to save it. There is no media rights deal in place and its impossible to negotiate until you have your slate of schools. The buyout for the mountain west is $35 million per school. They have no money to cover the buy out and no way to promise higher pay outs. It's a sinking ship that nobody is going to want to board at this point, unfortunately

Both the ACC and the Big 12 should be making a hard push to add UConn as a full member before the other one does. Football is trending up and will get there.

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) April 9, 2024

Might be an easy football win for us.

I have faith in Brett Yormark to do what's right, dude has been awesome for us so far

JP1037 said:

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montypython said:

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JP1037 said:

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montypython said:

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UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

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It's only slightly about basketball.

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I thought all of this was about TV Market capitalization.

UConn has a much larger TV market than UA. So if its not TV Market (unless there is a separate way to quantify sports viewers) and only slightly about bball - what else could it be? It certainly isn't football prowess.

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If it were about market size Big 12 would already have SMU. They quantify sports viewers with ratings.

In the digital age it's more about the brand and running a successful sports program.

UConn deserves power 5. They are an amazing bb school but it's too far and isolated for the Big 12.

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SMU does not draw viewers from Dallas. Been up here for the most part since 1976 and there is very little coverage of the Mustangs other than from the faithful.

BUGWBBear said:

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Might be an easy football win for us.

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Hmm.....does such a thing exist?

boognish_bear said:

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Both the ACC and the Big 12 should be making a hard push to add UConn as a full member before the other one does. Football is trending up and will get there.

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) April 9, 2024

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That's an impressive necro post.

ABC BEAR said:

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BUGWBBear said:

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Might be an easy football win for us.

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Hmm.....does such a thing exist?

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Long Island says, uh huh.

montypython said:

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UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

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Outside of Berkley and Stanford they have one of the best academic reputations in the PAC. UA is the west coast version of UNC or UVA but without the same level of funding/budget and all of those heinous campus "demonstrations". UA football has just been more relevant the last couple of decades than UVA football.

johnnychimpo said:

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montypython said:

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UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

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Outside of Berkley and Stanford they have one of the best academic reputations in the PAC. UA is the west coast version of UNC or UVA but without the same level of funding/budget and all of those heinous campus "demonstrations". UA football has just been more relevant the last couple of decades than UVA football.

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I grew up in Arizona. This is not a remotely true statement. Of the Pac 12 schools, here are the schools more highly regarded, academically:

Stanford
Cal
UCLA
USC
Washington

Utah is about on the same level as U of A. Arizona is absolutely nowhere near the level of UNC or UVA and was middle of the Pac(k). For reference, Arizona was my safety school, while UVA was my "reach"/dream school.

Arizona will be towards the top of the new Big 12 academically, however.

johnnychimpo said:

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montypython said:

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UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

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Outside of Berkley and Stanford they have one of the best academic reputations in the PAC.

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TV revenue drives realignment, not academics.

Besides, UA is not even in the same ballpark as the top academic institutions in the PAC.

montypython said:

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UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

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If they were to send football back to FCS (or kill it altogether), their odds would improve infinitely.

johnnychimpo said:

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montypython said:

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UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

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Outside of Berkley and Stanford they have one of the best academic reputations in the PAC. UA is the west coast version of UNC or UVA but without the same level of funding/budget and all of those heinous campus "demonstrations". UA football has just been more relevant the last couple of decades than UVA football.

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UA is also a few million in the hole with a debt no one can seem to explain. I don't think the other PAC schools had that problem.

Arizona is a top 40 institution in the US in terms of federal research dollars, and that plus AAU membership carry its reputation. As with most public institutions, its admissions rate and ACT range leave much to be desired and it's clear from those variables that it's a step down from the tip top public institutions in the eyes of applicants.

Texasjeremy said:

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montypython said:

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UConn is arguably the best basketball program over the last 24 years

Arizona, while good, isn't any where near UConn's level.

If Arizona was a basketball add, I don't get it. UConn should have been the pick.

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If they were to send football back to FCS (or kill it altogether), their odds would improve infinitely.

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Well shoot it won't embed. This made me think of a moment from the movie Major League.. "I didn't know they still had a team"

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