Shapen out 2-3 weeks. Hate it for him, he didn't play bad, but there needs to be a major reset of some kind regardless. A rebirth of sorts.

LOL - Dominic Richardson was a "hot hand" last Saturday? So one yard gains and getting firmly planted on your back is a "hot hand"? I'm not faulting him personally because it isn't his fault he had an OLine that whiffed on blocks constantly, but that's a really weird thing for Aranda to say.

Johnny Bear said:

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LOL - Dominic Richardson was a "hot hand" last Saturday? So one yard gains and getting firmly planted on your back is a "hot hand"? I'm not faulting him personally because it isn't his fault he had an OLine that whiffed on blocks constantly, but that's a really weird thing for Aranda to say.

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He ended up with a decent YPC....especially given the OL issues.

Reese wasn't able to get rolling though.

Seems like all the comments were about the offense. I'd like to hear something about that lame duck defense.

OL "improved" and "had flashes?" Was that when the TX State DL was playing in their socks?

ImABearToo said:

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Shapen out 2-3 weeks. Hate it for him, he didn't play bad, but there needs to be a major reset of some kind regardless. A rebirth of sorts.

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He didn't play bad??? He was exceptional. It was everyone around him that stunk.

Aranda is just going through the motions. As soon as he's gone, the actual rebuild can begin.

Maybe this was already talked about, but why was Blake Shapen's left pant leg cut off all the way up mid-thigh when the game started? It was the oddest looking thing. It makes me think that he was either getting treatment on that leg or had a brace on it that he took off before the game. Was his knee a problem even before the game? Anybody know what that was all about?

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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Maybe this was already talked about, but why was Blake Shapen's left pant leg cut off all the way up mid-thigh when the game started? It was the oddest looking thing. It makes me think that he was either getting treatment on that leg or had a brace on it that he took off before the game. Was his knee a problem even before the game? Anybody know what that was all about?

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That definitely caught my eye as well and had me wondering what was up. I have never seen that look before.

Dave Aranda says there's a "contagious spirit" about Sawyer Robertson that gives the team confidence in him as the starter this week against Utah.

"There's a great amount of belief in him with the team. They know that with him, we've got a great chance." pic.twitter.com/eMZS02nCaQ

— Eric Kelly (@EricKellyTV) September 4, 2023

I have not caught that contagious spirit.

What do we have behind Sawyer Robertson if he goes down (I prolly should've said when he goes down)?

Rj martinez fcs transfer

Married A Horn said:

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I have not caught that contagious spirit.

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Natural immunity, or are you social distancing from the Bears right now?

I'm tired of hearing about "hard discussions". Get the job done. In the words of my ex-CEO, we don't need a weather report.

I don't go to many games but I was at the game Saturday and noticed that he looked gimpy a bit in the first half as well. I actually thought he got hurt on his TD run as he took a pretty solid hit to his back after he scored the touchdown. Obviously that was a different part of the body.

He played well under the circumstances, but hopping around on your right foot before making a throw is not really the best technique for throwing a football. Personally, I would think it would be silly to rush him back for the Texas game. The best case scenario is having him ready for UCF. You certainly don't need him for LIU.

And yet Martinez carried that FCS team to a fluff game victory over a Power 5 opponent. And has Kylar Murray's HS pass record. And is substantially better than Shapin. And time will bear that out.

And we're having this conversation because we lost our safe game. If he gets a chance he'll make it worthwhile.

buparent2025 said:

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I don't go to many games but I was at the game Saturday and noticed that he looked gimpy a bit in the first half as well. I actually thought he got hurt on his TD run as he took a pretty solid hit to his back after he scored the touchdown. Obviously that was a different part of the body.

He played well under the circumstances, but hopping around on your right foot before making a throw is not really the best technique for throwing a football. Personally, I would think it would be silly to rush him back for the Texas game. The best case scenario is having him ready for UCF. You certainly don't need him for LIU.

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I'm starting to think he had problems even before the game, maybe from practice earlier in the week. That would explain his pants being cut so high up on that same leg, as if they were making room for a brace. If this the case, I don't understand the decision to let him go out there with NOTHING on his knee to begin the game, not so much as even a kneepad. I'm wondering if during the press conference this was even brought up. Does anyone have any info?

buparent2025 said:

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I don't go to many games but I was at the game Saturday and noticed that he looked gimpy a bit in the first half as well. I actually thought he got hurt on his TD run as he took a pretty solid hit to his back after he scored the touchdown. Obviously that was a different part of the body.

He played well under the circumstances, but hopping around on your right foot before making a throw is not really the best technique for throwing a football. Personally, I would think it would be silly to rush him back for the Texas game. The best case scenario is having him ready for UCF. You certainly don't need him for LIU.

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He definitely looked like he was very uncomfortable when he got up after that play and walked back slowly.

Johnny Bear said:

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What do we have behind Sawyer Robertson if he goes down (I prolly should've said when he goes down)?

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Not sure if you noticed on Saturday night, but this team is 1-11 regardless of health.

EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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ImABearToo said:

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Shapen out 2-3 weeks. Hate it for him, he didn't play bad, but there needs to be a major reset of some kind regardless. A rebirth of sorts.

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He didn't play bad??? He was exceptional. It was everyone around him that stunk.

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The receivers were good too. The passing production in general was encouraging, particularly given how bad the protection was. It's a shame we couldn't run at all and our defense was a no-show.

I was wondering about this too, but I think it was to make his signal more visible when signaling motions and perhaps some audibles.

Married A Horn said:

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I have not caught that contagious spirit.

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It's more like catching an STD than Covid. Takes a little more effort.

bear2be2 said:

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EvilTroyAndAbed said:

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ImABearToo said:

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Shapen out 2-3 weeks. Hate it for him, he didn't play bad, but there needs to be a major reset of some kind regardless. A rebirth of sorts.

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He didn't play bad??? He was exceptional. It was everyone around him that stunk.

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The receivers were good too. The passing production in general was encouraging, particularly given how bad the protection was. It's a shame we couldn't run at all and our defense was a no-show.

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Stopping the Jeff Grimes offense means stopping the run. I wouldn't barely care about passing game.

gobears20 said:

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Dave Aranda says there's a "contagious spirit" about Sawyer Robertson that gives the team confidence in him as the starter this week against Utah.

"There's a great amount of belief in him with the team. They know that with him, we've got a great chance." pic.twitter.com/eMZS02nCaQ

— Eric Kelly (@EricKellyTV) September 4, 2023

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Well, the late great Coach Leach did recruit this kid for MSU....so I am going to have some faith that he will help rescue some of the season...

I had Blake going out in the Utah game....

Whatever floats your boat NIL agent

Not my boat.

And it's not floating.

But definitely screenshot that for after the season.

Killing Floor said:

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And yet Martinez carried that FCS team to a fluff game victory over a Power 5 opponent. And has Kylar Murray's HS pass record. And is substantially better than Shapin. And time will bear that out.

And we're having this conversation because we lost our safe game. If he gets a chance he'll make it worthwhile.

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Do you realize that Shapen had the 2nd bet QB rating in the country last week? Shapen was not the problem.

He needs to start answering questions about his putrid defense.. they were terrible last year and look worse this year.

You definitely realize this loss was historic.
I'm not defending this hill with fantasy points.
Shapin was the 2nd best quarterback on the field and the 3rd best on our roster. His complete season last year was 18 TD, 10 Int behind a much better line. That's pretty much peak. But it's not my decision and I will be cheering regardless.

Bearwhiz said:

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He needs to start answering questions about his putrid defense.. they were terrible last year and look worse this year.

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This. We can nitpick the offense and quibble over stylistic preferences, but the fact of the matter is the offense has been significantly more effective and consistent than the defense has since the start of the 2022 season. And that's not what you expect or should be willing to accept when you hire a successful defensive coordinator as your head coach.

If we can't build a dependable defense, it's unlikely we're ever going to be particularly successful again with this staff. With an other built to complement the defense, the defense needs to be reliable.

Killing Floor said:

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You definitely realize this loss was historic.
I'm not defending this hill with fantasy points.
Shapin was the 2nd best quarterback on the field and the 3rd best on our roster. His complete season last year was 18 TD, 10 Int behind a much better line. That's pretty much peak. But it's not my decision and I will be cheering regardless.

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Shapen was fantastic last week, despite arguably the worst performance by a Baylor offensive line since the Kevin Steele era.

There's a lot to criticize about that game the other night. Shapen's performance is not on that list.

That many injuries makes me wonder about lack of conditioning. And what I saw in the game reinforces it.

Starting to think we won't have any conditioning advantage over Utah. Or maybe even LIU

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Johnny Bear said:

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What do we have behind Sawyer Robertson if he goes down (I prolly should've said when he goes down)?

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Not sure if you noticed on Saturday night, but this team is 1-11 regardless of health.

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Oh believe me I noticed and I realize if we do better than 1-11 it will be because of one or more upsets (and upsets certainly happen sometimes). I was just curious where we go when Robertson goes down.