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He's removed reference to Baylor in his bio, so he's obviously gone.
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In reality this kid wouldn't do well with any staff. Talk about underwhelming player
Yeah, it's the player. We have so much evidence supporting the stellar player development and retention it has to be the 4star recruit is really a bust.
You know the 2 are not mutually exclusive. Dave can suck and so can Armani. I've watched him. He probably has more drops than catches. He doesn't block and runs ****ty routes. Not all 4 and 5 star players pan out. Maybe he gets better at his next stop or maybe he is what he is and underwhelming there as well. This team is a long ways from being successful so I'm not going to lose sleep over a player that couldn't beat a transfer and a walk-on for a starting spot or even consistent play in th rotation
You know, there has not been one player that left that we should leave sleep over. They all suck, yet they end up starting for other teams, some going bowling and others having good seasons in tougher leagues. Yet, they all suck.
We have gone from Big 12 Champs to losing to Texas St and getting embarrassed every week in non-competitive games with those that stayed that were better than the guys that left. Shapen is better than Drones. Drones salvaged Va Tech's season and has them going to a Bowl Game if they beat a bad UVA team.
I got destroyed by SoCalBear and his Youth Buddies on the Premium Board for saying Drones looked good during the Pitt game. He looked pretty good vs WVU and OSU in a Baylor uniform but according to those that know, he sucks. How many others? The big RB, was trouble, better losing a 235 pound back that can move the pile. He smoked grass, 80% of the NCAA smokes pot! The CB for Ark stole Headphones, good riddance.
So, based on what I have seen, I would take the 4-star rating with offers from UT and Bama over what the "experts" on this Board say any day. They don't know a football from a Watermelon based on their analysis, including some that played.
I knew they where full of it when I see Walcott and Johnson lighting it up in the SEC hell even Josh fleeks is scoring TDs for Nebraska
Neither of those guys is "lighting it up." They're both mediocre starters for a 4-7 team.
The only player we lost who is actually lighting it up is Devin Neal for a top-10 Louisville team. He's had a really good year.
Have you looked in the mirror? You really ae saying that starting for teams with more wins, even if just 1, is no loss. We need every legit starter we can getD
Johnson and Walcott wouldn't have added a single win to this team's total. All of our current corners are better than Johnson, who got himself kicked off the team, making this a moot point anyway. And Walcott might have made us marginally better, but he wasn't very good in the star role last season.
Devin Neal is the only good player we lost from the defense.
Transfers are a fact of life in modern college football. Everyone loses players to other programs. I'm not going to cry over losing and handful of mid players to other bad teams.
To get where we want to be, we need to elevate our talent level beyond all of these guys.
- Kyron Drones, QB (Four-Star) Virginia Tech
- Josh Fleeks, RB (Four-Star) Nebraska
- Devin Neal, S (Three-Star) Louisville
- Seth Jones, WR (Three-Star) USF
- Micah Mazzccua, IOL (Three-Star) Florida
- Al Walcott, S (Three-Star), Senior Arkansas
- Lorando Johnson, CB (Four-Star) Arkansas
- Noah Rauschenberg, K (Three-Star)
- Craig Williams, RB (Four-Star
Qualon Jones sucked, all 7 of his TDs.
All of them were no big losses? What we brought in was better? Silly me, you are so right. What Bowl do you hope we get this year????
Do you honestly believe any of those guys would have made us significantly better this year? The only two who would have any significant impact are Mazzccua, who was kicked off the team, and Neal. The rest of those guys are marginal P5 starters who would have done very little to help a team full of marginal P5 starters.
Yes! You are looking at 10 players, 1/7 of a CFB travel roster. So, yes it makes a difference and that is not even looking at what it does for position groups taking position changes into consideation. That is 10 players that know the system and have been there. So, Yes. It would make a difference.
Hell, in QB play alone when Shapen went down Drones is a huge upgrade over Robertson. Williams and Jones were producers on Bowl level teams. Walcott and Johnson are both servicable DBs.
How can you say it makes no difference and that they wouldn't have impacted any W's? Geez, Drones and Jones against Utah could have been the difference between burning the clock and not.
Sorry, I get that in the transfer portal you can't keep everyone. But, BU had losses that were worth losing sleep .
It's not realistic in 2023 to expect no outgoing transfers. All programs are going to lose players, some of them good.
But the fact of the matter is we've had fewer outgoing transfers than our Big 12 counterparts ... far fewer in most cases ... and those who have left on their own -- counting those who got kicked off the team is silly -- have been mid-tier starters at the very best for their new teams in most cases.
Our portal losses don't even crack the top 10 reasons for our team's current struggles. Neal is the only plus player that we've lost that didn't force our hand for disciplinary reasons.
This team is where it is because we haven't developed the players on our roster, not because we've lost impact players to the portal. Both those we've lost and those we've kept/added have been mid. That's the problem. Aranda's program produces nothing but mid or worse players.
I don't disagree with you on player development.
Where we diverge is that the players announcing that they are entering the portal, for whatever reason, is problematic. As evidence by the deterioration of play since 2021. For whatever the reason, these 3 and 4 stars are not developing, leaving and Baylor seems hit harder on the field than other programs in the B12.
As you said, all programs are having these issues but we nosedived worse than most.
I do apologize that you get my outpouring on this subject because you talk reasonably, as opposed to the Premium Board patrols. You do rcognize, while no All American Drones could have helped, Jones has a skill set we do not have and some of the DBs could have helped. Unfortunately, no good deed goes unpunished.
