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Switch #3 and #13...61-58

We beat them. That's the only measure you need to determine who deserved it.

Hell under the new rules starting in 2015, before they created the Big12 championship game, we would have outright won the conference instead of being co-champs.

Having co champs when your slogan is "one true champion" is some of the dumbest sh*t I've ever seen.

The only reason tcu and baylor coach fatterson was even in the 61-58 game was some major baylor miscues

We whipped them like a rented mule up
And down that field all day

That game was a fine example of those great Bennett defenses

As much as it pains me to say this… the dirty toads curb stomped Ole Miss and we… kept up our Cotton Bowl losing ways. Ridiculous we weren't conference champs with the head to head but we choked the final game.

boykin_spaniel said:

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As much as it pains me to say this… the dirty toads curb stomped Ole Miss and we… kept up our Cotton Bowl losing ways. Ridiculous we weren't conference champs with the head to head but we choked the final game.

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Dig into that ole miss situation a little More. You'll feel better about it

Baylor beat TCU in the regular season, but Baylor beat 0 P5s out of conference and TCU both beat 2 such teams and finished #3 in the final AP poll. That's not controversial.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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Baylor beat TCU in the regular season, but Baylor beat 0 P5s out of conference and TCU both beat 2 such teams and finished #3 in the final AP poll. That's not controversial.

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Compare Mich St and Miss if you like, but . . .

TCU played FCS, SMU, Minnesota
Baylor played FCS, SMU, Buffalo

No offense to Minnesota, but it's not like that win is so much better than Buffalo that it trumps a head to head loss.

Fools.

wongobear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Baylor beat TCU in the regular season, but Baylor beat 0 P5s out of conference and TCU both beat 2 such teams and finished #3 in the final AP poll. That's not controversial.

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Compare Mich St and Miss if you like, but . . .

TCU played FCS, SMU, Minnesota
Baylor played FCS, SMU, Buffalo

No offense to Minnesota, but it's not like that win is so much better than Buffalo that it trumps a head to head loss.

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It's understandable that this forum has some homerism, but pretending that beating an 8 win B1G team (who had a winning record in conference play) is substantially the same as beating a 5 win MAC team (who had a losing record in conference play) is literally laughable.

No one is arguing that Baylor didn't beat TCU in conference play, but there are reasons that TCU finished #3 in the AP (despite not even making the four team CFP) and Baylor did not - among other things, TCU had a hands down/inarguable better body of work.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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wongobear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Baylor beat TCU in the regular season, but Baylor beat 0 P5s out of conference and TCU both beat 2 such teams and finished #3 in the final AP poll. That's not controversial.

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Compare Mich St and Miss if you like, but . . .

TCU played FCS, SMU, Minnesota
Baylor played FCS, SMU, Buffalo

No offense to Minnesota, but it's not like that win is so much better than Buffalo that it trumps a head to head loss.

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It's understandable that this forum has some homerism, but pretending that beating an 8 win B1G team (who had a winning record in conference play) is substantially the same as beating a 5 win MAC team (who had a losing record in conference play) is literally laughable.

No one is arguing that Baylor didn't beat TCU in conference play, but there are reasons that TCU finished #3 in the AP (despite not even making the four team CFP) and Baylor did not - among other things, TCU had a hands down/inarguable better body of work.

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LOL

Trusting the improvement to 12 teams. Seemed so obvious in adding to post season interest and added t.v. revenue. Also the hot tea s 6 - 12 beating top 4 teams. Sorry this wasn't available when Art had us at all time exciting. Our 13 team was exciting and Tuff to defend.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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wongobear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Baylor beat TCU in the regular season, but Baylor beat 0 P5s out of conference and TCU both beat 2 such teams and finished #3 in the final AP poll. That's not controversial.

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Compare Mich St and Miss if you like, but . . .

TCU played FCS, SMU, Minnesota
Baylor played FCS, SMU, Buffalo

No offense to Minnesota, but it's not like that win is so much better than Buffalo that it trumps a head to head loss.

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It's understandable that this forum has some homerism, but pretending that beating an 8 win B1G team (who had a winning record in conference play) is substantially the same as beating a 5 win MAC team (who had a losing record in conference play) is literally laughable.

No one is arguing that Baylor didn't beat TCU in conference play, but there are reasons that TCU finished #3 in the AP (despite not even making the four team CFP) and Baylor did not - among other things, TCU had a hands down/inarguable better body of work.

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Although the 61-58 score was close, if I remember correctly, Baylor had about 300 more offensive yards. We were without a doubt the better team on the field but had to overcome big miscues in that game. TCU had a great team no doubt, but we were better.

Chuckroast said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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wongobear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Baylor beat TCU in the regular season, but Baylor beat 0 P5s out of conference and TCU both beat 2 such teams and finished #3 in the final AP poll. That's not controversial.

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Compare Mich St and Miss if you like, but . . .

TCU played FCS, SMU, Minnesota
Baylor played FCS, SMU, Buffalo

No offense to Minnesota, but it's not like that win is so much better than Buffalo that it trumps a head to head loss.

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It's understandable that this forum has some homerism, but pretending that beating an 8 win B1G team (who had a winning record in conference play) is substantially the same as beating a 5 win MAC team (who had a losing record in conference play) is literally laughable.

No one is arguing that Baylor didn't beat TCU in conference play, but there are reasons that TCU finished #3 in the AP (despite not even making the four team CFP) and Baylor did not - among other things, TCU had a hands down/inarguable better body of work.

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Although the 61-58 score was close, if I remember correctly, Baylor had about 300 more offensive yards. We were without a doubt the better team on the field but had to overcome big miscues in that game. TCU had a great team no doubt, but we were better.

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Again, the issue isn't who was better on the field on a specific day, as Baylor was better than day. The issue is the totality of TCU's 2014 resume was indisputably better than Baylor's, and that's reflected in the final college football polls (including the AP and Coaches).

Aberzombie1892 said:

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wongobear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Baylor beat TCU in the regular season, but Baylor beat 0 P5s out of conference and TCU both beat 2 such teams and finished #3 in the final AP poll. That's not controversial.

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Compare Mich St and Miss if you like, but . . .

TCU played FCS, SMU, Minnesota
Baylor played FCS, SMU, Buffalo

No offense to Minnesota, but it's not like that win is so much better than Buffalo that it trumps a head to head loss.

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It's understandable that this forum has some homerism, but pretending that beating an 8 win B1G team (who had a winning record in conference play) is substantially the same as beating a 5 win MAC team (who had a losing record in conference play) is literally laughable.

No one is arguing that Baylor didn't beat TCU in conference play, but there are reasons that TCU finished #3 in the AP (despite not even making the four team CFP) and Baylor did not - among other things, TCU had a hands down/inarguable better body of work.

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Baylor fans, like Briles, wanted to have their cake and to eat it too.

You don't get to try to game the system with a cupcake noncon schedule and get in over teams that posted the same record without doing so.

We built our nonconference schedules with the explicit goal of improving our chances to go undefeated. When you do that, you'd better go undefeated, because once you lose a game and any real scrutiny is put on your schedule, the stunt you're pulling becomes crystal clear.

We scheduled like a bunch of *****es under Briles. And we did so intentionally. It came back to bite us in the ass in 2014.

Fre3dombear said:

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The only reason tcu and baylor coach fatterson was even in the 61-58 game was some major baylor miscues

We whipped them like a rented mule up
And down that field all day

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They did the same to us. We were pretty lucky to squeak out a 3 point win after being down 3 TD's.

It pains me say that you are correct. TCU's choke was a 3pt loss to a top 10 team. We shat the bed against a mediocre unranked WV team. TCU clobbered a supposed elite SEC team in their bowl while we blew a big lead to a top 2 Big10 team. If you're not Ohio St or Alabama then losses have consequences

Aberzombie1892 said:

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Chuckroast said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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wongobear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Baylor beat TCU in the regular season, but Baylor beat 0 P5s out of conference and TCU both beat 2 such teams and finished #3 in the final AP poll. That's not controversial.

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Compare Mich St and Miss if you like, but . . .

TCU played FCS, SMU, Minnesota
Baylor played FCS, SMU, Buffalo

No offense to Minnesota, but it's not like that win is so much better than Buffalo that it trumps a head to head loss.

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It's understandable that this forum has some homerism, but pretending that beating an 8 win B1G team (who had a winning record in conference play) is substantially the same as beating a 5 win MAC team (who had a losing record in conference play) is literally laughable.

No one is arguing that Baylor didn't beat TCU in conference play, but there are reasons that TCU finished #3 in the AP (despite not even making the four team CFP) and Baylor did not - among other things, TCU had a hands down/inarguable better body of work.

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Although the 61-58 score was close, if I remember correctly, Baylor had about 300 more offensive yards. We were without a doubt the better team on the field but had to overcome big miscues in that game. TCU had a great team no doubt, but we were better.

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Again, the issue isn't who was better on the field on a specific day, as Baylor was better than day. The issue is the totality of TCU's 2014 resume was indisputably better than Baylor's, and that's reflected in the final college football polls (including the AP and Coaches).

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My recollection is that TCU played a mediocre big 10 team, otherwise, our schedules were pretty similar in the regular season.

boykin_spaniel said:

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It pains me say that you are correct. TCU's choke was a 3pt loss to a top 10 team. We shat the bed against a mediocre unranked WV team. TCU clobbered a supposed elite SEC team in their bowl while we blew a big lead to a top 2 Big10 team. If you're not Ohio St or Alabama then losses have consequences

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Nah. Look deeper

Had tcu won and baylor won we'd have been ranked ahead of tcu. Without questions

But we didn't win just like we floundered in the Fiesta Bowl the year prior and like our loss in Morgantown we also dropped a big one in Stillwater. Briles had a way of losing an important game here and there

Fre3dombear said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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It pains me say that you are correct. TCU's choke was a 3pt loss to a top 10 team. We shat the bed against a mediocre unranked WV team. TCU clobbered a supposed elite SEC team in their bowl while we blew a big lead to a top 2 Big10 team. If you're not Ohio St or Alabama then losses have consequences

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Nah. Look deeper

Had tcu won and baylor won we'd have been ranked ahead of tcu. Without questions

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Not exactly.

There is a reason that TCU ended #3 and it wasn't solely because they "won", as Baylor beating MSU by anything less than 30 points almost certainly doesn't put them above a TCU team that beat Ole Miss by 39 points. As we all know, the 2014 Baylor team wasn't going to beat a good P5 team (i.e. ranked in final AP) by 30+ points.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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It pains me say that you are correct. TCU's choke was a 3pt loss to a top 10 team. We shat the bed against a mediocre unranked WV team. TCU clobbered a supposed elite SEC team in their bowl while we blew a big lead to a top 2 Big10 team. If you're not Ohio St or Alabama then losses have consequences

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Nah. Look deeper

Had tcu won and baylor won we'd have been ranked ahead of tcu. Without questions

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Not exactly.

There is a reason that TCU ended #3 and it wasn't solely because they "won", as Baylor beating MSU by anything less than 30 points almost certainly doesn't put them above a TCU team that beat Ole Miss by 39 points. As we all know, the 2014 Baylor team wasn't going to beat a good P5 team (i.e. ranked in final AP) by 30+ points.

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Really can't comprehend the love for the ole
Miss team that didn't even win 10 games, played with a hurt qb and was destroyed by 6-7 Arkansas 30-0 a couple weeks before tcu beat them

I could go on

If baylor beats MSU we finish #3. Zero doubt about that. Baylor walked all over tcu in the 61-58 game.

It took record setting PI calls at wvu to keep
Baylor from winning and a dropped TD by k d cannon that hit him right in the hands and some baaaaaaad defense but wvu had plenty of help and not just from baylor due to the "blown" pi call late in the tcu game and were made an example of the next week.

Fre3dombear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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It pains me say that you are correct. TCU's choke was a 3pt loss to a top 10 team. We shat the bed against a mediocre unranked WV team. TCU clobbered a supposed elite SEC team in their bowl while we blew a big lead to a top 2 Big10 team. If you're not Ohio St or Alabama then losses have consequences

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Nah. Look deeper

Had tcu won and baylor won we'd have been ranked ahead of tcu. Without questions

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Not exactly.

There is a reason that TCU ended #3 and it wasn't solely because they "won", as Baylor beating MSU by anything less than 30 points almost certainly doesn't put them above a TCU team that beat Ole Miss by 39 points. As we all know, the 2014 Baylor team wasn't going to beat a good P5 team (i.e. ranked in final AP) by 30+ points.

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Really can't comprehend the love for the ole
Miss team that didn't even win 10 games, played with a hurt qb and was destroyed by 6-7 Arkansas 30-0 a couple weeks before tcu beat them

I could go on

If baylor beats MSU we finish #3. Zero doubt about that. Baylor walked all over tcu in the 61-58 game.

It took record setting PI calls at wvu to keep
Baylor from winning and a dropped TD by k d cannon that hit him right in the hands and some baaaaaaad defense but wvu had plenty of help and not just from baylor due to the "blown" pi call late in the tcu game and were made an example of the next week.

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The resumes speak for themselves though.

TCU resume:
Loss to #7 Baylor by 3
Won over #17 Ole Miss by 39
Won over #18 KSU by 21
Won over 8-5 Minnesota by 23
Won over 6-7 Texas by 38
Won over 7-6 Oklahoma State by 33
Won over 8-5 Oklahoma by 3
Won over 7-6 WVU by 1

12 total wins on a harder schedule - 8 bowl teams and 11 P5s with 2 ranked wins and 1 ranked loss.

Baylor resume:
Loss to #5 Michigan State by 1
Loss to 7-6 WVU by 14
Won over #3 TCU by 3
Won over #18 KSU by 11
Won over 6-7 Texas by 21
Won over 7-6 Oklahoma State by 21
Won over 8-5 Oklahoma by 34

11 total wins on an easier schedule - 7 bowl teams and 10 P5s with 2 ranked wins, 1 ranked loss, and 1 unranked loss.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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It pains me say that you are correct. TCU's choke was a 3pt loss to a top 10 team. We shat the bed against a mediocre unranked WV team. TCU clobbered a supposed elite SEC team in their bowl while we blew a big lead to a top 2 Big10 team. If you're not Ohio St or Alabama then losses have consequences

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Nah. Look deeper

Had tcu won and baylor won we'd have been ranked ahead of tcu. Without questions

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Not exactly.

There is a reason that TCU ended #3 and it wasn't solely because they "won", as Baylor beating MSU by anything less than 30 points almost certainly doesn't put them above a TCU team that beat Ole Miss by 39 points. As we all know, the 2014 Baylor team wasn't going to beat a good P5 team (i.e. ranked in final AP) by 30+ points.

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Really can't comprehend the love for the ole
Miss team that didn't even win 10 games, played with a hurt qb and was destroyed by 6-7 Arkansas 30-0 a couple weeks before tcu beat them

I could go on

If baylor beats MSU we finish #3. Zero doubt about that. Baylor walked all over tcu in the 61-58 game.

It took record setting PI calls at wvu to keep
Baylor from winning and a dropped TD by k d cannon that hit him right in the hands and some baaaaaaad defense but wvu had plenty of help and not just from baylor due to the "blown" pi call late in the tcu game and were made an example of the next week.

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The resumes speak for themselves though.

TCU resume:
Loss to #7 Baylor by 3
Won over #17 Ole Miss by 39
Won over #18 KSU by 21
Won over 8-5 Minnesota by 23
Won over 6-7 Texas by 38
Won over 7-6 Oklahoma State by 33
Won over 8-5 Oklahoma by 3
Won over 7-6 WVU by 1

12 total wins on a harder schedule - 8 bowl teams and 11 P5s with 2 ranked wins and 1 ranked loss.

Baylor resume:
Loss to #5 Michigan State by 1
Loss to 7-6 WVU by 14
Won over #3 TCU by 3
Won over #18 KSU by 11
Won over 6-7 Texas by 21
Won over 7-6 Oklahoma State by 21
Won over 8-5 Oklahoma by 34

11 total wins on an easier schedule - 7 bowl teams and 10 P5s with 2 ranked wins, 1 ranked loss, and 1 unranked loss.

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That's fine but if baylor beats msu after beating tcu head to head zero chance ranked behind tcu

Ole miss just wasn't much special by the time tcu played them and they finished what 9-4?

Baylor would have beat ole miss too most likely

Doesn't Matter. Baylor **** the bed and then later Texas murdered Briles career for spurning rhem and shoving it up their ass and Oklahoma's ass for years

Aberzombie1892 said:

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Again, the issue isn't who was better on the field on a specific day, as Baylor was better than day. The issue is the totality of TCU's 2014 resume was indisputably better than Baylor's, and that's reflected in the final college football polls (including the AP and Coaches).

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In a legitimate playoff system, we would have been the sole Big 12 champs (something the Big 12 corrected that offseason) and would have been invited to a real playoff.

Both preseason results (OOC games) and the meaningless bowl game results are irrelevant in that scenario.

Working with the ******bag committee setup, if the Big 12 had proper tie break rules in place prior to the season, we would have been crowned Big 12 champs, not co champs. We could have still been left out of invitationals because the TV networks prefer large, blue blood teams like Ohio St vs the 'sisters of the poor'.

Make no mistake though. With a real playoff, we deserved to be in and would have been in. Everything after that fact is irrelevant, including meaningless bowl game results.

Fre3dombear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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It pains me say that you are correct. TCU's choke was a 3pt loss to a top 10 team. We shat the bed against a mediocre unranked WV team. TCU clobbered a supposed elite SEC team in their bowl while we blew a big lead to a top 2 Big10 team. If you're not Ohio St or Alabama then losses have consequences

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Nah. Look deeper

Had tcu won and baylor won we'd have been ranked ahead of tcu. Without questions

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Not exactly.

There is a reason that TCU ended #3 and it wasn't solely because they "won", as Baylor beating MSU by anything less than 30 points almost certainly doesn't put them above a TCU team that beat Ole Miss by 39 points. As we all know, the 2014 Baylor team wasn't going to beat a good P5 team (i.e. ranked in final AP) by 30+ points.

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Really can't comprehend the love for the ole
Miss team that didn't even win 10 games, played with a hurt qb and was destroyed by 6-7 Arkansas 30-0 a couple weeks before tcu beat them

I could go on

If baylor beats MSU we finish #3. Zero doubt about that. Baylor walked all over tcu in the 61-58 game.

It took record setting PI calls at wvu to keep
Baylor from winning and a dropped TD by k d cannon that hit him right in the hands and some baaaaaaad defense but wvu had plenty of help and not just from baylor due to the "blown" pi call late in the tcu game and were made an example of the next week.

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The resumes speak for themselves though.

TCU resume:
Loss to #7 Baylor by 3
Won over #17 Ole Miss by 39
Won over #18 KSU by 21
Won over 8-5 Minnesota by 23
Won over 6-7 Texas by 38
Won over 7-6 Oklahoma State by 33
Won over 8-5 Oklahoma by 3
Won over 7-6 WVU by 1

12 total wins on a harder schedule - 8 bowl teams and 11 P5s with 2 ranked wins and 1 ranked loss.

Baylor resume:
Loss to #5 Michigan State by 1
Loss to 7-6 WVU by 14
Won over #3 TCU by 3
Won over #18 KSU by 11
Won over 6-7 Texas by 21
Won over 7-6 Oklahoma State by 21
Won over 8-5 Oklahoma by 34

11 total wins on an easier schedule - 7 bowl teams and 10 P5s with 2 ranked wins, 1 ranked loss, and 1 unranked loss.

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That's fine but if baylor beats msu after beating tcu head to head zero chance ranked behind tcu

Ole miss just wasn't much special by the time tcu played them and they finished what 9-4?

Baylor would have beat ole miss too most likely

Doesn't Matter. Baylor **** the bed and then later Texas murdered Briles career for spurning rhem and shoving it up their ass and Oklahoma's ass for years

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We can certainly agree to disagree, but Baylor beating MSU by anything less than 30 leaves them under TCU as Baylor's WVU loss combined with TCU's (1) demolition of Ole Miss, (2) better performance vs. virtually all common opponents (SMU, KSU, Texas, Oklahoma State, WVU, Texas Tech, and ISU), and (3) regular season win over 8 win Minnesota makes the difference there.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Fre3dombear said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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It pains me say that you are correct. TCU's choke was a 3pt loss to a top 10 team. We shat the bed against a mediocre unranked WV team. TCU clobbered a supposed elite SEC team in their bowl while we blew a big lead to a top 2 Big10 team. If you're not Ohio St or Alabama then losses have consequences

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Nah. Look deeper

Had tcu won and baylor won we'd have been ranked ahead of tcu. Without questions

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Not exactly.

There is a reason that TCU ended #3 and it wasn't solely because they "won", as Baylor beating MSU by anything less than 30 points almost certainly doesn't put them above a TCU team that beat Ole Miss by 39 points. As we all know, the 2014 Baylor team wasn't going to beat a good P5 team (i.e. ranked in final AP) by 30+ points.

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Really can't comprehend the love for the ole
Miss team that didn't even win 10 games, played with a hurt qb and was destroyed by 6-7 Arkansas 30-0 a couple weeks before tcu beat them

I could go on

If baylor beats MSU we finish #3. Zero doubt about that. Baylor walked all over tcu in the 61-58 game.

It took record setting PI calls at wvu to keep
Baylor from winning and a dropped TD by k d cannon that hit him right in the hands and some baaaaaaad defense but wvu had plenty of help and not just from baylor due to the "blown" pi call late in the tcu game and were made an example of the next week.

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The resumes speak for themselves though.

TCU resume:
Loss to #7 Baylor by 3
Won over #17 Ole Miss by 39
Won over #18 KSU by 21
Won over 8-5 Minnesota by 23
Won over 6-7 Texas by 38
Won over 7-6 Oklahoma State by 33
Won over 8-5 Oklahoma by 3
Won over 7-6 WVU by 1

12 total wins on a harder schedule - 8 bowl teams and 11 P5s with 2 ranked wins and 1 ranked loss.

Baylor resume:
Loss to #5 Michigan State by 1
Loss to 7-6 WVU by 14
Won over #3 TCU by 3
Won over #18 KSU by 11
Won over 6-7 Texas by 21
Won over 7-6 Oklahoma State by 21
Won over 8-5 Oklahoma by 34

11 total wins on an easier schedule - 7 bowl teams and 10 P5s with 2 ranked wins, 1 ranked loss, and 1 unranked loss.

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That's fine but if baylor beats msu after beating tcu head to head zero chance ranked behind tcu

Ole miss just wasn't much special by the time tcu played them and they finished what 9-4?

Baylor would have beat ole miss too most likely

Doesn't Matter. Baylor **** the bed and then later Texas murdered Briles career for spurning rhem and shoving it up their ass and Oklahoma's ass for years

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We can certainly agree to disagree, but Baylor beating MSU by anything less than 30 leaves them under TCU as Baylor's WVU loss combined with TCU's (1) demolition of Ole Miss, (2) better performance vs. virtually all common opponents (SMU, KSU, Texas, Oklahoma State, WVU, Texas Tech, and ISU), and (3) regular season win over 8 win Minnesota makes the difference there.

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I just don't see it that way. The only real difference in our regular season schedules was Minnesota. Big deal. Their win over Minnesota combined with our loss on the road to a decent West Virginia team was not enough for them to overcome their loss to Baylor. Plus, it was a statistical annihilation. Regular season advantage, Baylor.

I don't have a problem with TCU being ranked ahead of us after the bowl season since they won their bowl game, and we lost ours.