Makes me think of Jalen Pitre! He committed to Baylor, not the coaching staff!BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
The soul of college sports was always the spirit of amateurism. Athletes choose to play at a school for it's greatness, not a paycheck (at least ostensibly). It was purely a reflection of the university you attended, therefore all alumns with pride for school had a stake in their success. And the athletes busted their tail to deliver - for school, for their teammates, for college glory. And we alumns and students loved them for it and would remember them and talk about them for a lifetime.
Regardless of your opinion as to exactly when college sports "lost its soul", at least the spirit of amateurism had remained. At least until now. Now we don't know if it's about the green and gold, it might just be about the green. So it isn't funny at all that people are only mad about it now. Because now's the point where the amateur spirit has ended. I guess the idea of cheering on hired mercenaries who wear your colors because you write their checks just doesn't have that same spirit. Kinda like paying someone to marry you.
As the recruits keep saying….
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Again, it was the schools and conferences that created this environment by prioritizing TV money and other revenue streams over literally everything else.thales said:bear2be2 said:College football hasn't had a soul for decades. And it's the adults that sold it. It's funny that people only care now that the players are demanding -- and getting -- their fair cut of the action.BusyTarpDuster2017 said:It's not necessary to view it as mocking Baylor specifically rather than college sports as a whole and what it has made Baylor become.parch said:I mean do what you need to do, but people calling out Baylor specifically for staying competitive in this market as opposed to just shutting up shop and becoming like Akron is wild.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:The NIL has chased me back to the NFL. Screw college football.parch said:Yeah what a weird thing to call us out on.Tempus Edax Rerum said:Who isn't?BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
Now that we're Paylor University, should keep coming.
What's wild to me is how so many don't seem to have any problem with college sports gaining the world but losing it's soul.
anyone that spent thousands of dollars and years at a school is going to bemoan anything that appears to, or actually severs the unique experience that is college and athletics
in their current form, nil and the portal will do just that
What were seeing now was the inevitable byproduct of trying to profit off amateur sports.
Florida says hello.historian said:
Plenty of random murders in Chicago & other Leftist cities
Murder isn't a partisan issue. Only shills and hacks try to paint it as such.Valkyrie said:Florida says hello.historian said:
Plenty of random murders in Chicago & other Leftist cities
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/murder-rate-by-state
And that data is pretty consistent with what you'd find the last 20-plus years, at least.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
FIFYYogi said:
Well, we've always said that we "fling our BAGS OF gold afar".
Coach Aranda just verified that.
Yes, but preparing kids to make money in the future as a "pro" in their respective field is what college is doing for all kids, really. Not just in sports. The point is not that future money isn't part of the decision to go to one school over the other. The point is that athletes chose the school that would best prepare them, not based on who paid them, and that reflects upon the school's qualities. Yes, it does seem irrational, but for some reason the perceived reality is that winning sports teams adds to a school's prestige. And that's why alumns who have pride for their school feel like they have a stake in the sport's success, and that forms the basis that drives their fanship.historian said:
It's a matter of perspective. The main difference between an amateur and a pro literally is that the latter gets paid. But the reality is more complicated. College athletes ostensibly didn't play for a team to get paid but to become a better athlete with the dream of going pro. So money was always a part of it. And that's just the beginning.
CaliBear00 said:
Can Bags U make it a fout-peat? The insider here appears to report on LSU and SMU primarily. Coach Hall and our ability to give a player their bag continues to boost out recruiting.
They can and did. Sicem.
With Michael Turner’s commitment to Baylor, the Bears now have more composite four-star prospects in their class (5) than any other Big 12 team.
— Will Turboff (@WillTurboff) July 19, 2024
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
Now that we're Paylor University, should keep coming.
That's not why we are landing kids. We have better talent evaluation.
Since this tweet was posted, SMU has lost a recruiting battle to Baylor with three different 4 stars#SicEmDamnBears https://t.co/FqzBCgmcdC
— John 🐻 (@baylorjohnnn) July 18, 2024
It's worth considering whether the recruits consider a degree from Baylor, plus the college experience, is better than from SMU.
Plus the conference road games are closer for family to attend, than having to travel to the Atlantic Coast (or the Pacific!) for SMU's road games.
Plus the conference road games are closer for family to attend, than having to travel to the Atlantic Coast (or the Pacific!) for SMU's road games.
It's probably more about the athletic experience and the environment
Baylor actually has recent football history worth considering.
Can I interest anyone in a kicker?
Baylor has offered the #1 Kicker prospect in the nation Rhett Armstrong (@ArmstrongRhett).#sicem #BUResurgence @CoachK_Hall @ahunt90 https://t.co/tVvbllBXN7
— Baylor Football Recruiting (@SicemRecruiting) July 20, 2024
Obviously he's accurate. He also looks skinny, which is good because his leg muscles can improve, adding to his range.
Ahh, the whole "it's a red state problem" canard when it's the blue cities within the red states that have the problem.bear2be2 said:Murder isn't a partisan issue. Only shills and hacks try to paint it as such.Valkyrie said:Florida says hello.historian said:
Plenty of random murders in Chicago & other Leftist cities
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/murder-rate-by-state
And that data is pretty consistent with what you'd find the last 20-plus years, at least.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
In 2022, 26 of the 30 cities with the highest murder rates were run by democrat mayors. For the last 50 years, 24 of the 30 cities with the highest murder rates were blue:
https://wirepoints.org/red-states-blue-cities-whos-to-blame-for-americas-homicide-crisis-wirepoints-special-report/#:~:text=We%20found%20most%20of%20the%20country%E2%80%99s%20homicide-hot%20spots,and%20has%20done%20so%20for%2011%20years%20running.
The whole "blue cities" thing is stupid because virtually all major cities are purple, if not blue. Crime happens in cities because that's where people are. Only partisan hacks and shills try to make crime a partisan issue.BusyTarpDuster2017 said:Ahh, the whole "it's a red state problem" canard when it's the blue cities within the red states that have the problem.bear2be2 said:Murder isn't a partisan issue. Only shills and hacks try to paint it as such.Valkyrie said:Florida says hello.historian said:
Plenty of random murders in Chicago & other Leftist cities
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/murder-rate-by-state
And that data is pretty consistent with what you'd find the last 20-plus years, at least.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
In 2022, 26 of the 30 cities with the highest murder rates were run by democrat mayors. For the last 50 years, 24 of the 30 cities with the highest murder rates were blue:
https://wirepoints.org/red-states-blue-cities-whos-to-blame-for-americas-homicide-crisis-wirepoints-special-report/#:~:text=We%20found%20most%20of%20the%20country%E2%80%99s%20homicide-hot%20spots,and%20has%20done%20so%20for%2011%20years%20running.
Jesus wept. What the heck is politics doing on these boards? We don't need that crap in here.
Yes, they happen in cities. But as shown, the large majority of them are run by democrats. Not "purple" polices, BLUE policies. That's the bottom line, one that you can't refute. If you don't understand or are unwilling to admit that democrat soft-on-crime policies is a big factor in their crime problem, then the partisan hack and shill might just be you.bear2be2 said:The whole "blue cities" thing is stupid because virtually all major cities are purple, if not blue. Crime happens in cities because that's where people are. Only partisan hacks and shills try to make crime a partisan issue.BusyTarpDuster2017 said:Ahh, the whole "it's a red state problem" canard when it's the blue cities within the red states that have the problem.bear2be2 said:Murder isn't a partisan issue. Only shills and hacks try to paint it as such.Valkyrie said:Florida says hello.historian said:
Plenty of random murders in Chicago & other Leftist cities
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/murder-rate-by-state
And that data is pretty consistent with what you'd find the last 20-plus years, at least.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
In 2022, 26 of the 30 cities with the highest murder rates were run by democrat mayors. For the last 50 years, 24 of the 30 cities with the highest murder rates were blue:
https://wirepoints.org/red-states-blue-cities-whos-to-blame-for-americas-homicide-crisis-wirepoints-special-report/#:~:text=We%20found%20most%20of%20the%20country%E2%80%99s%20homicide-hot%20spots,and%20has%20done%20so%20for%2011%20years%20running.
If you don't want political responses, don't make political comments.CaliBear00 said:
Jesus wept. What the heck is politics doing on these boards? We don't need that crap in here.
The problem is that most of the comments that starts a political discussion here are thrown in by those that frequent the R&P board. Many of us left that echo chamber months, if not years ago. Some have reacted here because at times you just can't let political agendas be thrown out when it is totally uncalled for and likely has nothing to do with the realities of the topic and by not replying assume that people are accepting that agenda. To quote the poster above, we don't need that crap on the sports boards.BusyTarpDuster2017 said:If you don't want political responses, don't make political comments.CaliBear00 said:
Jesus wept. What the heck is politics doing on these boards? We don't need that crap in here.
If you want to interject your political adjective or agenda into a conversation that has prior to your comment not contained any political crap, go to R&P, that is why it exists. I'm sure you'll be welcomed there.....as long as you conform to the company line in total. Just remember that whatever your political slant is, one way or another, likely more than 50% of the population doesn't agree with you. 50% because they are on the other side of the fence to begin with and a few more from your "side" that actually look at things objectively and realize nothing gets done without compromise.
CaliBear00 said:
Jesus wept. What the heck is politics doing on these boards? We don't need that crap in here.
Amen! There is a whole separate for for R&P.
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blackie said:The problem is that most of the comments that starts a political discussion here are thrown in by those that frequent the R&P board. Many of us left that echo chamber months, if not years ago. Some have reacted here because at times you just can't let political agendas be thrown out when it is totally uncalled for and likely has nothing to do with the realities of the topic and by not replying assume that people are accepting that agenda. To quote the poster above, we don't need that crap on the sports boards.BusyTarpDuster2017 said:If you don't want political responses, don't make political comments.CaliBear00 said:
Jesus wept. What the heck is politics doing on these boards? We don't need that crap in here.
If you want to interject your political adjective or agenda into a conversation that has prior to your comment not contained any political crap, go to R&P, that is why it exists. I'm sure you'll be welcomed there.....as long as you conform to the company line in total. Just remember that whatever your political slant is, one way or another, likely more than 50% of the population doesn't agree with you. 50% because they are on the other side of the fence to begin with and a few more from your "side" that actually look at things objectively and realize nothing gets done without compromise.
*golf clap*
somebody call me?Bear8084 said:blackie said:The problem is that most of the comments that starts a political discussion here are thrown in by those that frequent the R&P board. Many of us left that echo chamber months, if not years ago. Some have reacted here because at times you just can't let political agendas be thrown out when it is totally uncalled for and likely has nothing to do with the realities of the topic and by not replying assume that people are accepting that agenda. To quote the poster above, we don't need that crap on the sports boards.BusyTarpDuster2017 said:If you don't want political responses, don't make political comments.CaliBear00 said:
Jesus wept. What the heck is politics doing on these boards? We don't need that crap in here.
If you want to interject your political adjective or agenda into a conversation that has prior to your comment not contained any political crap, go to R&P, that is why it exists. I'm sure you'll be welcomed there.....as long as you conform to the company line in total. Just remember that whatever your political slant is, one way or another, likely more than 50% of the population doesn't agree with you. 50% because they are on the other side of the fence to begin with and a few more from your "side" that actually look at things objectively and realize nothing gets done without compromise.
*golf clap*
"I’m way excited ... about the direction it’s going now. In the past we’d be battling and fighting and continually not be able to finish. Now to be able to have the ability to close it out and win some of these recruiting battles is because we have the NIL money (to) back us up."
— Brice Cherry (@BriceCherry) July 22, 2024
parch said:I mean do what you need to do, but people calling out Baylor specifically for staying competitive in this market as opposed to just shutting up shop and becoming like Akron is wild.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:The NIL has chased me back to the NFL. Screw college football.parch said:Yeah what a weird thing to call us out on.Tempus Edax Rerum said:Who isn't?BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
Now that we're Paylor University, should keep coming.
Most of us think that Baylor was way late to the NIL landscape, contrary to what the administration was saying. And now that they are finally doing what it takes to increase the likelihood of winning, I'm not sure that abandoning the program is the greatest idea. To each his own though.
Last two seasons I record the games while watching other much more interesting games. If we have some sudden come to life from the dead like the UCF game I watch the entire replay. Otherwise I ignore the recordings I hope this year is different. I did watch some of the TCU game two or three days later.
“You’re blind if you can’t see what’s happening in Waco.” - New OL Commit Matthew Parker pic.twitter.com/6mvaVzeiuC
— Grayson Grundhoefer (@GrayGrundhoefer) July 30, 2024
I really, really hope Aranda makes this thing work this year and gives us a good season, because if we suck again this season this epic 2025 class is going to fall apart.
Whoo buddy. Bears flip highly-coveted LB target Kaleb Burns from Texas Tech. The recruiting momentum is crazy right now. #SicEm https://t.co/rVVyAC4N5G
— Craig Smoak (@CraigSmoak) July 30, 2024
Got 2 more left and imma chill 😈😈#SicEm
— 𝑇𝑎𝑧 𝑊𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑖𝑎𝑚$ 𝐽𝑟 (@Taz_1x) July 30, 2024
parch said:I mean do what you need to do, but people calling out Baylor specifically for staying competitive in this market as opposed to just shutting up shop and becoming like Akron is wild.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:The NIL has chased me back to the NFL. Screw college football.parch said:Yeah what a weird thing to call us out on.Tempus Edax Rerum said:Who isn't?BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
Now that we're Paylor University, should keep coming.
The Zips have road games at Ohio State, Rutgers, and South Carolina.
Even Baylor spending NIL (finally) will not cover up Dave Aranda's incompetence as a Head Coach of a P5 program.Guitarbiscuit said:parch said:I mean do what you need to do, but people calling out Baylor specifically for staying competitive in this market as opposed to just shutting up shop and becoming like Akron is wild.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:The NIL has chased me back to the NFL. Screw college football.parch said:Yeah what a weird thing to call us out on.Tempus Edax Rerum said:Who isn't?BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
Now that we're Paylor University, should keep coming.
Most of us think that Baylor was way late to the NIL landscape, contrary to what the administration was saying. And now that they are finally doing what it takes to increase the likelihood of winning, I'm not sure that abandoning the program is the greatest idea. To each his own though.
Aranda was a terrible hire by Rhoades and will continue to be. Both Rhoades and Aranda must go if Baylor is going to reach anywhere near the national heights CAB teams did.
Sic'em
Even Baylor spending NIL (finally) will not cover up Dave Aranda's incompetence as a Head Coach of a P5 program.parch said:
I really, really hope Aranda makes this thing work this year and gives us a good season, because if we suck again this season this epic 2025 class is going to fall apart.
Aranda was a terrible hire by Rhoades and will continue to be. Both Rhoades and Aranda must go if Baylor is going to reach anywhere near the national heights CAB teams did.
Sic'em
Praise the Lord! Sic ‘Em🐻 @BUFootball @CoachDaveAranda @CoachMCScott @CoachRPollard @KornblueKicking pic.twitter.com/KfHfLdtyZP
— Rhett Armstrong (@ArmstrongRhett) August 1, 2024
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