For as little as $100 a month, you can help feed a football player

Killing Floor said:

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If we all send $20 to Arkansas we can make a difference. Please help.

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"For just the cost of a cup of coffee a day, you can help Arkansas keep up with Ole Miss in recruiting."

Anyone who has ever raised money knows ... it's the big licks from the big donors that get it done. Weird the Arky AD would go stick his foot in his mouth in this particular way.

Bad news: they ain’t giving money. The family actually gives money to Mizzou.

Now what?

— The Ball Hawgs (@TheBallHawgs) September 17, 2024

boognish_bear said:

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This rubs me the wrong way. In one of the poorest states in the country he says if we can get 10,000 households to give $100 a month we can become competitive in the NIL market.

In a billion dollar industry fans are expected to pay the salary of players? Makes no sense.

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I know one lady in Arkansas who can afford to pay it...

[Alice Walton is the richest woman in the world, according to the Forbes annual list. Worth an estimated $89.1 billion, that makes the Arkansas-born philanthropist the 18th richest person in the world]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/09/16/alice-walton-richest-woman-forbes/75256526007/


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I see you already posted about the Arkansas Waltons

For the last 20 years we’ve bloated our athletic administration, inflated salaries, and wastefully spent money on opulent facilities…

Now we can no longer exploit our labor force. Instead of us curbing our spending, you, the fan, will have to subsidize us https://t.co/43e8DJlnDD

— Noah Henderson (@NoahImgLikeness) September 17, 2024

boognish_bear said:

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For the last 20 years we’ve bloated our athletic administration, inflated salaries, and wastefully spent money on opulent facilities…

Now we can no longer exploit our labor force. Instead of us curbing our spending, you, the fan, will have to subsidize us https://t.co/43e8DJlnDD

— Noah Henderson (@NoahImgLikeness) September 17, 2024

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If I was a Tennessee fan, I'd be absolutely furious. Just furious. Every team in the entire SEC is making 40% more than every other team not in the BIG. And they talk as if they have nothing to show for it.

If I was a state legislator, I would be some kind of pissed about this.

Arkansas AD Hunter Yurachek was asked this morning on the @chuckandboshow about the UA's stance on 50/50 raffles. Here's his full answer... @ArkansasRivals #WPS pic.twitter.com/ipcE0G2CKV

— Mason Choate (@ChoateMason) September 19, 2024

Why can't they just accept that Arkansas will aways be a doormat?

ScottS said:

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Why can't they just accept that Arkansas will aways be a doormat?

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Because there are enough fans willing to give them money based on their hopes and dreams.

OsoCoreyell said:

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boognish_bear said:

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For the last 20 years we’ve bloated our athletic administration, inflated salaries, and wastefully spent money on opulent facilities…

Now we can no longer exploit our labor force. Instead of us curbing our spending, you, the fan, will have to subsidize us https://t.co/43e8DJlnDD

— Noah Henderson (@NoahImgLikeness) September 17, 2024

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If I was a Tennessee fan, I'd be absolutely furious. Just furious. Every team in the entire SEC is making 40% more than every other team not in the BIG. And they talk as if they have nothing to show for it.

If I was a state legislator, I would be some kind of pissed about this.

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Especially with the insane salaries the A.D.'s (and likely other personnel) are making. Pretty sure you could get some great A.D.'s for $1M a year.

This is killing college football.

Players used to get free rides plus a ton of other benefits. Now they get paid but it is up to the fans to do it?

No thanks.

We are now expected to shell out hundreds for season tickets (or thousands depending on where you want to sit or if you want Baylor Club membership), pay for parking, pay inflated concession stand prices, and now pay the player's salaries?

If these players are getting paid they need to no longer get scholarships. Do away with those and use that money to pay the players directly since that seems to be what the whole issue was. They weren't happy with a free education, free housing, free meals, free clothing, etc. Well now make them pay for all of it.

ScottS said:

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Why can't they just accept that Arkansas will aways be a doormat?

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With aTm in the SEC, it's doubtful Arkansas will ever be the doormat.

canoso said:

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ScottS said:

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Why can't they just accept that Arkansas will aways be a doormat?

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With aTm in the SEC, it's doubtful Arkansas will ever be the doormat.

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Funny

And I honestly wonder about OU going forward

Oklahoma (the State) only has 4 million people...not much more than Arkansas

You have to wonder how they will do going forward in the SEC in the years to come.

OU was always a big fish in a small pond (big 8 conference)...now they no longer are.

I think UT snookered OU into the SEC knowing they will not be as competitive as they had been to UT in Big 12.

Just waiting for the day when one of the P-4 schools says 'fuggital, we are not playing this money game any longer. Our athletic teams will be reduced in size and scope and we recommit to the academic standards we once held.'

cowboycwr said:

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This is killing college football.

Players used to get free rides plus a ton of other benefits. Now they get paid but it is up to the fans to do it?

No thanks.

We are now expected to shell out hundreds for season tickets (or thousands depending on where you want to sit or if you want Baylor Club membership), pay for parking, pay inflated concession stand prices, and now pay the player's salaries?

If these players are getting paid they need to no longer get scholarships. Do away with those and use that money to pay the players directly since that seems to be what the whole issue was. They weren't happy with a free education, free housing, free meals, free clothing, etc. Well now make them pay for all of it.

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If scholarships are done away with that just hurts private schools even more and benefits schools like UT, Michigan etc who provide a great education at really inexpensive price relatively speaking.

Love that tweet by Noah Henderson.

Schools need to reign in their spending, cut coaches salaries to something reasonable and spread that money around to the players instead of charging fans more money to be a fan.

PartyBear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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This is killing college football.

Players used to get free rides plus a ton of other benefits. Now they get paid but it is up to the fans to do it?

No thanks.

We are now expected to shell out hundreds for season tickets (or thousands depending on where you want to sit or if you want Baylor Club membership), pay for parking, pay inflated concession stand prices, and now pay the player's salaries?

If these players are getting paid they need to no longer get scholarships. Do away with those and use that money to pay the players directly since that seems to be what the whole issue was. They weren't happy with a free education, free housing, free meals, free clothing, etc. Well now make them pay for all of it.

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If scholarships are done away with that just hurts private schools even more and benefits schools like UT, Michigan etc who provide a great education at really inexpensive price relatively speaking.

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If players are getting paid they should not also get a free ride.

cowboycwr said:

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PartyBear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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This is killing college football.

Players used to get free rides plus a ton of other benefits. Now they get paid but it is up to the fans to do it?

No thanks.

We are now expected to shell out hundreds for season tickets (or thousands depending on where you want to sit or if you want Baylor Club membership), pay for parking, pay inflated concession stand prices, and now pay the player's salaries?

If these players are getting paid they need to no longer get scholarships. Do away with those and use that money to pay the players directly since that seems to be what the whole issue was. They weren't happy with a free education, free housing, free meals, free clothing, etc. Well now make them pay for all of it.

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If scholarships are done away with that just hurts private schools even more and benefits schools like UT, Michigan etc who provide a great education at really inexpensive price relatively speaking.

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If players are getting paid they should not also get a free ride.

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My initial reaction is to agree with you.

We could go another direction with it - just remove 'student' altogether and let them do sports full time with no school.

I'm sure that the reality of it happening is slim to none.

montypython said:

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cowboycwr said:

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PartyBear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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This is killing college football.

Players used to get free rides plus a ton of other benefits. Now they get paid but it is up to the fans to do it?

No thanks.

We are now expected to shell out hundreds for season tickets (or thousands depending on where you want to sit or if you want Baylor Club membership), pay for parking, pay inflated concession stand prices, and now pay the player's salaries?

If these players are getting paid they need to no longer get scholarships. Do away with those and use that money to pay the players directly since that seems to be what the whole issue was. They weren't happy with a free education, free housing, free meals, free clothing, etc. Well now make them pay for all of it.

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If scholarships are done away with that just hurts private schools even more and benefits schools like UT, Michigan etc who provide a great education at really inexpensive price relatively speaking.

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If players are getting paid they should not also get a free ride.

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My initial reaction is to agree with you.

We could go another direction with it - just remove 'student' altogether and let them do sports full time with no school.

I'm sure that the reality of it happening is slim to none.

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That will happen soon. With the movement to call them employees of the university there will be those that then challenge the student side requirements until that is removed.

And then there will be a lot of players that bank on going pro and never attend college and when the pro thing doesn't happen or they don't last long in the pros they will be done playing sports, broke and no degree to use.

There have already been players talking that way about "why do we have to go to class when we are paid to play football?"

If they are not students (or even if they are), why should there be eligibility limits? How long will it be until eligibility is challenged in the courts by players who are good to great college players, making good money, but with no prospect of making the pros? Some lawyer will have a theory that eligibility requirements are discriminatory or that they are in restraint of trade keeping athletes from making money. If you are a school employee, why can you get fired just for being there too long? Its coming.

cowboycwr said:

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PartyBear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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This is killing college football.

Players used to get free rides plus a ton of other benefits. Now they get paid but it is up to the fans to do it?

No thanks.

We are now expected to shell out hundreds for season tickets (or thousands depending on where you want to sit or if you want Baylor Club membership), pay for parking, pay inflated concession stand prices, and now pay the player's salaries?

If these players are getting paid they need to no longer get scholarships. Do away with those and use that money to pay the players directly since that seems to be what the whole issue was. They weren't happy with a free education, free housing, free meals, free clothing, etc. Well now make them pay for all of it.

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If scholarships are done away with that just hurts private schools even more and benefits schools like UT, Michigan etc who provide a great education at really inexpensive price relatively speaking.

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If players are getting paid they should not also get a free ride.

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I think fans and alums of every private school except perhaps ND and USC (but maybe them as well) would be very upset as to where that policy leads their athletic programs.

PartyBear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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PartyBear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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This is killing college football.

Players used to get free rides plus a ton of other benefits. Now they get paid but it is up to the fans to do it?

No thanks.

We are now expected to shell out hundreds for season tickets (or thousands depending on where you want to sit or if you want Baylor Club membership), pay for parking, pay inflated concession stand prices, and now pay the player's salaries?

If these players are getting paid they need to no longer get scholarships. Do away with those and use that money to pay the players directly since that seems to be what the whole issue was. They weren't happy with a free education, free housing, free meals, free clothing, etc. Well now make them pay for all of it.

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If scholarships are done away with that just hurts private schools even more and benefits schools like UT, Michigan etc who provide a great education at really inexpensive price relatively speaking.

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If players are getting paid they should not also get a free ride.

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I think fans and alums of every private school except perhaps ND and USC (but maybe them as well) would be very upset as to where that policy leads their athletic programs.

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To use our own BOR words "we are an institution of higher learning."

Schools will never do away with the scholarships for players even though they are now paying them unless some sort of rule or law forces them to. I just think it is crazy. The players already got free school, food, room, health care, etc. and now are getting paid on top of that.

If it was that players could earn money through endorsements and autographs and appearances like what I think NIL was supposed to be I would be fine with the scholarships. But as it is now where it is just "here is money" I don't think they need both.

PartyBear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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PartyBear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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This is killing college football.

Players used to get free rides plus a ton of other benefits. Now they get paid but it is up to the fans to do it?

No thanks.

We are now expected to shell out hundreds for season tickets (or thousands depending on where you want to sit or if you want Baylor Club membership), pay for parking, pay inflated concession stand prices, and now pay the player's salaries?

If these players are getting paid they need to no longer get scholarships. Do away with those and use that money to pay the players directly since that seems to be what the whole issue was. They weren't happy with a free education, free housing, free meals, free clothing, etc. Well now make them pay for all of it.

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If scholarships are done away with that just hurts private schools even more and benefits schools like UT, Michigan etc who provide a great education at really inexpensive price relatively speaking.

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If players are getting paid they should not also get a free ride.

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I think fans and alums of every private school except perhaps ND and USC (but maybe them as well) would be very upset as to where that policy leads their athletic programs.

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yeah we'd be even more screwed

Posters are out here pretending like the average player receives payment higher than the the total cost of attendance, which does not appear to be the case. The players should still get their tuition.

Everyone knows Arkansas is a 1 tooth state.

The Walton's say hello. So do the Tyson's along with the Hunts of J.B. Hunt.

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boognish_bear said:

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This rubs me the wrong way. In one of the poorest states in the country he says if we can get 10,000 households to give $100 a month we can become competitive in the NIL market.

In a billion dollar industry fans are expected to pay the salary of players? Makes no sense. Can't wait for revenue sharing to get started.

I've got zero problem with fans who choose to give to NIL collectives....I just don't like hearing the schools asking fans for money.

"Ole Miss has 5,000 people in their collective. We have 1,000."@HunterYurachek says, "If we're really gonna get a handle on this NIL and remain competitive, we need to rally people across this state." pic.twitter.com/XWzB6sAs3n

— LR Touchdown Club (@LRTouchdownClub) September 16, 2024

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Why don't we view corporate panhandling for what it is? How is this different than begging for money in front of Wal-Mart -- beyond the fact that it's being done, in this case, by employees of untaxed institutions raking in tens of millions of dollars in TV revenue?

I'm with you. This is pathetic.

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At least the Salvation Army used donation dollars for something genuinely good. I don't recall any scandals involving them.

KaiBear said:

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The sooner Universities terminate this escalating abomination of entertainment the better off they will be.

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It will never happen.

"For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evils."
I Timothy 6:10a

CorsicanaBear said:

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If they are not students (or even if they are), why should there be eligibility limits? How long will it be until eligibility is challenged in the courts by players who are good to great college players, making good money, but with no prospect of making the pros? Some lawyer will have a theory that eligibility requirements are discriminatory or that they are in restraint of trade keeping athletes from making money. If you are a school employee, why can you get fired just for being there too long? Its coming.

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100%. Eligibility will be challenged and overruled. Players will be able to play as long as the team will keep them on the roster. This obviously will throw the system into complete chaos.

Without some serous reforms that make it workable, we're seeing the beginning of the end of college football.

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bear2be2 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This rubs me the wrong way. In one of the poorest states in the country he says if we can get 10,000 households to give $100 a month we can become competitive in the NIL market.

In a billion dollar industry fans are expected to pay the salary of players? Makes no sense. Can't wait for revenue sharing to get started.

I've got zero problem with fans who choose to give to NIL collectives....I just don't like hearing the schools asking fans for money.

"Ole Miss has 5,000 people in their collective. We have 1,000."@HunterYurachek says, "If we're really gonna get a handle on this NIL and remain competitive, we need to rally people across this state." pic.twitter.com/XWzB6sAs3n

— LR Touchdown Club (@LRTouchdownClub) September 16, 2024

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Why don't we view corporate panhandling for what it is? How is this different than begging for money in front of Wal-Mart -- beyond the fact that it's being done, in this case, by employees of untaxed institutions raking in tens of millions of dollars in TV revenue?

I'm with you. This is pathetic.

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At least the Salvation Army used donation dollars for something genuinely good. I don't recall any scandals involving them.

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I wasn't talking about Salvation Army, specifically. I don't have a problem with charity's collecting money or items in organized campaigns.

I was talking more about the career panhandlers that make their living with a folding chair and a cardboard sign. We have quite a few of them here in Abilene, and Wal-Mart exits are a popular spot.

CorsicanaBear said:

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If they are not students (or even if they are), why should there be eligibility limits? How long will it be until eligibility is challenged in the courts by players who are good to great college players, making good money, but with no prospect of making the pros? Some lawyer will have a theory that eligibility requirements are discriminatory or that they are in restraint of trade keeping athletes from making money. If you are a school employee, why can you get fired just for being there too long? Its coming.

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"If professors can have tenure, why not football players?"