Vandy Alabama and A Reminder of What We Don't Have

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Guitarbiscuit
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Killing Floor said:

That's almost 3 miles from the stadium to the river straight down Broadway
Anything's possible. Take about 12 breaks. They should be there by 1:30 AM
Johnny Bear
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bear2be2 said:

Guitarbiscuit said:

Slavital needs to watch this film as a lesson on how to put teams away, which entails not running 3 consecutive run plays.
100 percent. Vandy said, "We're not giving Alabama the ball back," and went and played for the three first downs it needed to win. It was a thing of beauty.

I know "the book" says run the ball in that situation, but it was great that the Vandy coaches realized they weren't going to get the 2 first downs they needed to seal it against a defense like
Bama's by following "the book", especially when they're locked in to stop the run. They just effectively said "to hell with the book, we're taking the risk and throwing it", or put another way, "we're playing to win instead of playing not to lose". Our pathetic coaches could learn so much from this.
Guitarbiscuit
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Well they ended up throwing it into the river.
bear2be2
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Johnny Bear said:

bear2be2 said:

Guitarbiscuit said:

Slavital needs to watch this film as a lesson on how to put teams away, which entails not running 3 consecutive run plays.
100 percent. Vandy said, "We're not giving Alabama the ball back," and went and played for the three first downs it needed to win. It was a thing of beauty.

I know "the book" says run the ball in that situation, but it was great that the Vandy coaches realized they weren't going to get the 2 first downs they needed to seal it against a defense like
Bama's by following "the book", especially when they're locked in to stop the run. They just effectively said "to hell with the book, we're taking the risk and throwing it", or put another way, "we're playing to win instead of playing not to lose". Our pathetic coaches could learn so much from this.
I think the Vandy staff knew that if they gave Alabama the ball back, they were probably losing that game. That's just the reality of the situation with the way Alabama was moving the ball in the second half.

They coached that game to win and won. There's no way Dave would have done the same thing. He'd have run three times and punted and we'd have lost in the final minute.

That's the difference between a winning staff and the opposite.
bear2be2
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Guitarbiscuit said:

Well they ended up throwing it into the river.
And it got dug out and will be returned to the school. Likely to be cut up an sold as a keepsake. The proceeds will help offset the SEC's field storming fine.
Killing Floor
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Vanderbilt doesn't need the cash.
Let’s Go!
bear2be2
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Killing Floor said:

Vanderbilt doesn't need the cash.
They're not going to turn down free money. Why pay the fine with your own money when the fans who caused it will pay it for you? And get a pretty cool piece of history in the process.
morethanhecouldbear
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Watching Vandy beat Alabama is a reminder that rankings are pointless and serve no purpose other than to give big name schools and/or a conference like the sec the benefit of the doubt.
jikespingleton
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morethanhecouldbear said:

Watching Vandy beat Alabama is a reminder that rankings are pointless and serve no purpose other than to give big name schools and/or a conference like the sec the benefit of the doubt.
The serve a purpose beyond that too. Networks use rankings to help push their products, news and to provide talking points.

If you sign up for hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars to televise something, you are going to need to make that money back and then some.
Jack Bauer
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historian
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bear2be2 said:

Killing Floor said:

Vanderbilt doesn't need the cash.
They're not going to turn down free money. Why pay the fine with your own money when the fans who caused it will pay it for you? And get a pretty cool piece of history in the process.

One BMD might come up the funds for the fine with one check.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
bear2be2
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historian said:

bear2be2 said:

Killing Floor said:

Vanderbilt doesn't need the cash.
They're not going to turn down free money. Why pay the fine with your own money when the fans who caused it will pay it for you? And get a pretty cool piece of history in the process.

One BMD might ping up the funds for the fine with one check.
They'll likely raise lots of money off Saturday's win. But they are auctioning off a lot of keepsakes from that game, including pieces of the goalposts.
historian
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Yes, it's a clever fundraiser. My point is that it might not be necessary from a strictly fiscal standpoint.

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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Chuckroast
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historian said:

Yes, it's a clever fundraiser. My point is that it might not be necessary from a strictly fiscal standpoint.

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You're right - It's a PR stunt. They're gonna milk that Alabama win anyway they can… As they should. I'm a decades long Vanderbilt fan who became somewhat of an indifferent fan a few years ago. Y'all might recall that several years ago, Vanderbilt eliminated its sports department and got rid of its athletic Director and simply combined sports Within the departments of the greater university. I think they claimed to be doing it because they were so high-minded that they had to lead by example and show that sports had gotten out of hand. However, I think it was done because their sports budget was so paltry; whereas, the university had massive funding outside of sports. Folding its sports department into the university gave it access to university funding.

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BearBall
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morethanhecouldbear said:

Watching Vandy beat Alabama is a reminder that rankings are pointless and serve no purpose other than to give big name schools and/or a conference like the sec the benefit of the doubt.
So you don't think Alabama is one of the best teams in the country? Every AP voter knows Bama would beat Vandy tomorrow.
Vandy beating Bama is good for college football. Bama losing to Vandy will only make Bama better.
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