#Baylor football head coach Dave Aranda said there were no second thoughts about going for it on fourth-and-9 with 16 seconds left in the game. He said he knew there was a real shot that it might not work out but he trusted the offense to get the job done.#SicEm

— Foster Nicholas (@FosterNicholas_) November 3, 2024

#Baylor football head coach Dave Aranda compared Bryson Washington to Abram Smith in the way they run the ball. Washington ran for four touchdowns, the most by a player in a single game since 2011.#SicEm

— Foster Nicholas (@FosterNicholas_) November 3, 2024

Quinton said:

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Probably right. But they need to go all in with Nil and buy 2-3 high level safeties and 1 corner. It's an embarrassment. That said, really good win

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After watching what we were able to do in the portal last offseason with Thomas, Noel, Linton, Snaxx, etc., I like our chances of addressing those need positions in the offseason. It's a shame that Simpkins has been hurt most of the year. He might have been able to help us in some capacity if he'd stayed healthy.

#Baylor football head coach Dave Aranda wasn't all smiles after the game as he still wants to see the defense clean up passing yards against.#SicEm

— Foster Nicholas (@FosterNicholas_) November 3, 2024

Coach Aranda on the field rush:

"I think for the students and fans in general, there's a prove it thing... for both the fans and players to get on one side and be one team, it's pretty cool"

We are back.

— SKAL AFTER DARK (@Sir_KnowsALot_) November 3, 2024

After #Baylor football’s 37-34 win over TCU, redshirt junior quarterback Sawyer Robertson left McLane Stadium with a boot on his left foot. Robertson was hobbling after his fourth down carry in the fourth quarter. The Bears have a bye week this week and time to heal up. #SicEm

— Foster Nicholas (@FosterNicholas_) November 3, 2024

wongobear said:

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tommy1005 said:

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Defensive holding on a run play only gets called against us. I think it's happened the last 2 weeks and I don't remember every watching a game we weren't playing where that was called

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Came here to talk about this. Lance is the only DL I have ever seen defensive holding called on. He must be doing something very specific, but good gosh.

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IIRC, Andrew Billings had one in the Cotton Bowl that erased Taylor Young's pick six.

historian said:

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wongobear said:

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tommy1005 said:

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Defensive holding on a run play only gets called against us. I think it's happened the last 2 weeks and I don't remember every watching a game we weren't playing where that was called

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Came here to talk about this. Lance is the only DL I have ever seen defensive holding called on. He must be doing something very specific, but good gosh.

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IIRC, Andrew Billings had one in the Cotton Bowl that erased Taylor Young's pick six.

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Well that's kind of the point. Defensive holding on a defensive lineman almost always means the DL holds and OL to allow a blitzer to run free at a QB.

In the play last night it was called on a run play which makes no sense.

Doc Holliday said:

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After #Baylor football’s 37-34 win over TCU, redshirt junior quarterback Sawyer Robertson left McLane Stadium with a boot on his left foot. Robertson was hobbling after his fourth down carry in the fourth quarter. The Bears have a bye week this week and time to heal up. #SicEm

— Foster Nicholas (@FosterNicholas_) November 3, 2024

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I hope this isn't something that's going to be serious or nagging. We're toast without Robertson.

morethanhecouldbear said:

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I know we got the win, but that was another dip **** set of play calls on the most important drive of the game.

1 yard run and two bombs down the side line. Even with Trig catching that pass on 4th and 9, it doesn't change the stupid in that series. Instead of those 2 bombs, there are so many other options to pick up that first down.

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Now you are nitpicking.

FLBear5630 said:

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morethanhecouldbear said:

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I know we got the win, but that was another dip **** set of play calls on the most important drive of the game.

1 yard run and two bombs down the side line. Even with Trig catching that pass on 4th and 9, it doesn't change the stupid in that series. Instead of those 2 bombs, there are so many other options to pick up that first down.

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Now you are nitpicking.

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All's well that ends well but there wasn't a single educated fan watching that game that didn't have the image of a turnover on downs, TCU getting the ball at mid field, followed by a 15 yard pass to #3, Timeout, walkoff FG for the L. That scenario actually would have been about as "on brand" as it gets for Baylor vs TCU.

boognish_bear said:

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Says the team that has an entire thread on their fan website dedicated to "Baylor tears"

ENJOY THE L HAHAHAHA

— Connor Martin (@Connor_J_M) November 3, 2024

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making a mountain out of a molehill ...

Quinton said:

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Probably right. But they need to go all in with Nil and buy 2-3 high level safeties and 1 corner. It's an embarrassment. That said, really good win

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I think we need to save some of that NIL for referees too. Those TCU referees nearly won it for them last night

That run by Washington for about 13 or so to setup the FG was pretty big too. Got Hankins a pretty good shot on the 8 ball

Great post game vibes in the stadium

Old Baylor finds a way to lose this game.

We might just be back pic.twitter.com/nvehFCpgbP

— Baylor University AD (@NotMackR) November 3, 2024

historian said:

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wongobear said:

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tommy1005 said:

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Defensive holding on a run play only gets called against us. I think it's happened the last 2 weeks and I don't remember every watching a game we weren't playing where that was called

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Came here to talk about this. Lance is the only DL I have ever seen defensive holding called on. He must be doing something very specific, but good gosh.

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IIRC, Andrew Billings had one in the Cotton Bowl that erased Taylor Young's pick six.

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Billings was called for a nudge in the back about 10-15 yards behind Young

historian said:

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wongobear said:

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tommy1005 said:

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Defensive holding on a run play only gets called against us. I think it's happened the last 2 weeks and I don't remember every watching a game we weren't playing where that was called

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Came here to talk about this. Lance is the only DL I have ever seen defensive holding called on. He must be doing something very specific, but good gosh.

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IIRC, Andrew Billings had one in the Cotton Bowl that erased Taylor Young's pick six.

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Nope. The Andrew Billings penalty that cost Taylor Young's TD was a block in the back around mid field during the return.

Wasnt that call for laying on the TCU guy? Never seen a DL holding call for someone laying on top of the other. You could just about call that every play.

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FLBear5630 said:

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morethanhecouldbear said:

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I know we got the win, but that was another dip **** set of play calls on the most important drive of the game.

1 yard run and two bombs down the side line. Even with Trig catching that pass on 4th and 9, it doesn't change the stupid in that series. Instead of those 2 bombs, there are so many other options to pick up that first down.

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Now you are nitpicking.

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All's well that ends well but there wasn't a single educated fan watching that game that didn't have the image of a turnover on downs, TCU getting the ball at mid field, followed by a 15 yard pass to #3, Timeout, walkoff FG for the L. That scenario actually would have been about as "on brand" as it gets for Baylor vs TCU.

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There is not a game that is played between peer opponents that you can't go in and question play calls. Sometimes they work out, sometimes strategy doesn't work, sometimes the other team makes a good play.

I don't think you can go in and tear apart and play "what-if" or "I disagree", the game is a whole, not segments.

Just disagree, I look at the whole of the game and the outcome. Perfect example, the play where we didn't get out of bounds. Good high probability play call, BU players executed, the TCU DB made a good tackle to keep him in-bounds. That is not a coaching faux pau. It is football.

Aranda gets an "A" for yesterday. Beat a rival, won at home which has been an issue, and is on a win streak with a manageable schedule coming. Team played high energy, executed. Sorry, not seeing bad in the last three games, looks like we turned a corner. Sorry, the anti-Aranda crowd doesn't like that, but he is doing a good job right now.

boognish_bear said:

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Says the team that has an entire thread on their fan website dedicated to "Baylor tears"

ENJOY THE L HAHAHAHA

— Connor Martin (@Connor_J_M) November 3, 2024

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I was going to say, I've seen posters on here talk **** about other teams who won games against rivals or in OT against teams whose records weren't that great and storm the field. Glad we won the game…but we didn't even become bowl eligible, it wasn't in dramatic fashion, and according to most everyone on here TCU isn't a rival for us…

Jorkel said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Says the team that has an entire thread on their fan website dedicated to "Baylor tears"

ENJOY THE L HAHAHAHA

— Connor Martin (@Connor_J_M) November 3, 2024

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I was going to say, I've seen posters on here talk **** about other teams who won games against rivals or in OT against teams whose records weren't that great and storm the field. Glad we won the game…but we didn't even become bowl eligible, it wasn't in dramatic fashion, and according to most everyone on here TCU isn't a rival for us…

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I've barley seen anyone that says that, TCU-Baylor is legendary to BU football fans, Christians vs Baptists. Same as SMU used to be. That is the Revivalry, the Bluebonnet Battle. It's historic

Let the kids have a little fun. It's been awhile since beating TCU. pic.twitter.com/aljqxnBrGX

— Matt Mosley (@mattmosley) November 3, 2024

Is that Mack at the 15 second mark? Looks a little like him… But I don't think it is.

pic.twitter.com/KgNRYo0bnS

— Jonah (@ElJonah01) November 3, 2024

Yes that's him .

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That was a great game to go to. I liked the pace and attitude of the team. It seemed like we were a real team, something I haven't seen in a long time. And listening to the OLine interview post-game, gave me hope.

Just want to make sure I mention how dumb the play slow, oh let's bomb it deep play calling was in the final drive. Wr didn't try to hurry up until 30 seconds left, and we had plenty of distance to go still. Had we needed just 1 more play, we would have gone to overtime.

The run game through, that final drive, just goodness. Can't believe we had lost 8 of the past 9 to TCU, coming into this one. Makes it sweet.

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I disagree with your opinion on the pace of that last drive. The absolute last thing we wanted to do was to give TCU another possession in regulation.

I didn't like the third-down call before the fourth-and-long conversion, but other than that, I thought we played that final drive really well. They couldn't stop our run. The best course of action was to chew up yards and clock and win with a manageable last-second field goal just like they drew it up.

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We started the drive with a minute and change. It is a bad idea to run clock at the beginning of the drive, then hurry at the end. We had timeouts, and they had timeouts. You can always take a knee after a big play and run some or make them take their timeouts. It worked out this time, but again, we put ourselves in a bad position where it was getting statistically more likely we were going to overtime, burning clock so far back in our own territory.

But maybe the thinking was we just needed to burn clock early in the drive, because we didn't have it in us to score or get first downs. And an accident that we scored. That would make more sense. I just think it didn't look like good final 2 minute offense.

And I want us to go for it with a minute and change, tied. Not just focus on making it hard for the other team.

Bryson:

"all i could think about when I was running the ball when the O Line was pushing me was, let me fall let me fall, hoping the clock wouldn't expire" pic.twitter.com/AAgTfd1cyA

— 37-34 SKAL (@Sir_KnowsALot_) November 3, 2024

DL Elinus Noel on fans hanging until the end: "That really built us up for sure, seeing them out there and supporting us, I feel like they definitely played a hand in how this game went."

— Craig Smoak (@CraigSmoak) November 3, 2024

BAYLOR BEARS WIN!!!
Something about a walk off FG to beat your rival that feels JUST RIGHT. #SICEM pic.twitter.com/i2IgPQa5zb

— Robert Griffin III (@RGIII) November 3, 2024

Forget the records. So many regional rivalries have been a obliterated lately that I’m not complaining about any field storming in an unranked game.

Beat your hated rival and have bragging rights for 365 days — that’s what college football is all about.

Party away, Baylor. pic.twitter.com/7npvaFWsrg

— Dean Straka (@DWStraka49) November 3, 2024

FLBear5630 said:

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morethanhecouldbear said:

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I know we got the win, but that was another dip **** set of play calls on the most important drive of the game.

1 yard run and two bombs down the side line. Even with Trig catching that pass on 4th and 9, it doesn't change the stupid in that series. Instead of those 2 bombs, there are so many other options to pick up that first down.

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Now you are nitpicking.

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No, it's not nitpicking. That series was not a well run series. Players had to bail out Spavital. True, those 2 30 yard routes may have been options by Sawyer, but that doesn't change the fact that we had to convert on 4th and 9, and it never should have come to that.

Nitpicking this situation is fair.

Guitarbiscuit said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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morethanhecouldbear said:

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I know we got the win, but that was another dip **** set of play calls on the most important drive of the game.

1 yard run and two bombs down the side line. Even with Trig catching that pass on 4th and 9, it doesn't change the stupid in that series. Instead of those 2 bombs, there are so many other options to pick up that first down.

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Now you are nitpicking.

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No, it's not nitpicking. That series was not a well run series. Players had to bail out Spavital. True, those 2 30 yard routes may have been options by Sawyer, but that doesn't change the fact that we had to convert on 4th and 9, and it never should have come to that.

Nitpicking this situation is fair.

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They converted. It was a high probability pass on 4th down.

I disagree.

1st down - Run. Run was working all night inside. Washington was killing it.
2nd down - 30 yard pass. How many PI's were called all night?
3rd down - 30 yard pass. Same as 2nd down
4th down - 12 yard pass in the middle of the field. Simple route hard to defend.
Converted

Used all the clock, TCU had no chance to respond. What is wrong with that???

He knows his players, had the right groups on the field and they executed. That is coaching...

You guys are letting perfection get in the way of success. I have no issues, the continuing responding and using the clock at the end to win it is good clock mgt and coaching. You have lost your objectivity. You give the Coach crap when he loses and then say the players bailed him out when he loses?????? They can do nothing right. 3 game win streak, beat rival. Showed great resilience. Fans enjoyed it, swamped the field. A good time all the way around.

Some people are never happy. Nitpicking is always fair if that's what you do. It's just a strange mindset.

Hindsight is always genius. We won. Be happy.

FLBear5630 said:

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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morethanhecouldbear said:

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I know we got the win, but that was another dip **** set of play calls on the most important drive of the game.

1 yard run and two bombs down the side line. Even with Trig catching that pass on 4th and 9, it doesn't change the stupid in that series. Instead of those 2 bombs, there are so many other options to pick up that first down.

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Now you are nitpicking.

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No, it's not nitpicking. That series was not a well run series. Players had to bail out Spavital. True, those 2 30 yard routes may have been options by Sawyer, but that doesn't change the fact that we had to convert on 4th and 9, and it never should have come to that.

Nitpicking this situation is fair.

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They converted. It was a high probability pass on 4th down.

I disagree.

1st down - Run. Run was working all night inside. Washington was killing it.
2nd down - 30 yard pass. How many PI's were called all night?
3rd down - 30 yard pass. Same as 2nd down
4th down - 12 yard pass in the middle of the field. Simple route hard to defend.
Converted

Used all the clock, TCU had no chance to respond. What is wrong with that???

He knows his players, had the right groups on the field and they executed. That is coaching...

You guys are letting perfection get in the way of success. I have no issues, the continuing responding and using the clock at the end to win it is good clock mgt and coaching. You have lost your objectivity. You give the Coach crap when he loses and then say the players bailed him out when he loses?????? They can do nothing right. 3 game win streak, beat rival. Showed great resilience. Fans enjoyed it, swamped the field. A good time all the way around.

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We'll disagree. If you think that particular series was run well, then we are way off in terms of analysis.

I separate the result (a win) from the process. And on that drive, the process sucked.

Suppose we would have had 2 personal foul penalties on the OL on 1st and 2nd down setting up a 4th and 25 situation, which we then converted and won. Same sort of situation--bad things setting up a 4th down that never should have been that difficult. Bad process/great result.

Reverend said:

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Some people are never happy. Nitpicking is always fair if that's what you do. It's just a strange mindset.

Hindsight is always genius. We won. Be happy.

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I am happy, and yes, I like to nitpick everything, both positive and negative. What I don't quite get is the fact there are a lot of people who think if someone says anything negative at all about anything, then said person is perceived to be a bad fan. I've been around a long time and if I were a bad fan, I'd have jumped ship long ago in the early aughts. Still, you can think whatever you want, doesn't matter to me.

Your statement that hindsight is genius. No, that wasn't hindsight. A slew of people thought it was not a good playcalling sequence. And they and I thought this in the present, not in hindsight.


When positivity is warranted, I do mention that. Our OL has vastly improved, but that's not a real nitpicky thing to say as that is pretty obvious