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New OC at Florida St.

UCF could use a new face, Malzahn did them a favor. It's been a rough transition to Big 12 for them

Lots of positives about that job .

Be interested to hear names mentioned.

Is this true about FSU OC? College football is getting weird if so Chip Kelly left the UCLA HC job to be OC at Ohio St. These kinds of moves have been unheard of up to now.

Not announced yet since FSU playing now .

But Norvell was GA under Malzahn at Tulsa I believe.

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Is this true about FSU OC? College football is getting weird if so Chip Kelly left the UCLA HC job to be OC at Ohio St. These kinds of moves have been unheard of up to now.

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I bet it was resign or be fired. They were among the most disappointing teams in the Big 12 this year.

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Is this true about FSU OC? College football is getting weird if so Chip Kelly left the UCLA HC job to be OC at Ohio St. These kinds of moves have been unheard of up to now.

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Really comes back to NIL and Transfer portal. Coaches lost a lot of leverage and power in the system. New system will be geared toward different personalities and skill sets.

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PartyBear said:

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Is this true about FSU OC? College football is getting weird if so Chip Kelly left the UCLA HC job to be OC at Ohio St. These kinds of moves have been unheard of up to now.

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I bet it was resign or be fired. They were among the most disappointing teams in the Big 12 this year.

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They looked good at first and then just tailspinned after beating TCU. I saw their record last night during their game and forgot how awful it was. I told my brother "Wow....when did they get that bad???"

Neal Brown got the ax today.

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PartyBear said:

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Is this true about FSU OC? College football is getting weird if so Chip Kelly left the UCLA HC job to be OC at Ohio St. These kinds of moves have been unheard of up to now.

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Really comes back to NIL and Transfer portal. Coaches lost a lot of leverage and power in the system. New system will be geared toward different personalities and skill sets.

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Yep. Credit to those coaches honest enough with themselves to see they are not cut out for the role of head coach in new college football world. Still make a ton of cash as OC.

UCF and UC both had too high of expectations. Their fans thought they would just jump in the Big 12 and be at the top of the conference the way both were for years in the AAC. Actually, I think UH fans probably thought some of the same things because they were at least pretty competitive in the AAC.

They are all getting their first tastes of realizing all those years they thought of the Baylors, Iowa States, Kansas States, TCUs and Texas Techs as just middling programs when they looked at all of them from afar, now see those schools were pretty solid and competitive.

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UCF and UC both had too high of expectations. Their fans thought they would just jump in the Big 12 and be at the top of the conference the way both were for years in the AAC. Actually, I think UH fans probably thought some of the same things because they were at least pretty competitive in the AAC.

They are all getting their first tastes of realizing all those years they thought of the Baylors, Iowa States, Kansas States, TCUs and Texas Techs as just middling programs when they looked at all of them from afar, now see those schools were pretty solid and competitive.

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UH has the new coach excuse, and I actually think that they can be turned into a decent program. Cincinnati i'm less sure about.

Big12Fan2024 said:

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UCF and UC both had too high of expectations. Their fans thought they would just jump in the Big 12 and be at the top of the conference the way both were for years in the AAC. Actually, I think UH fans probably thought some of the same things because they were at least pretty competitive in the AAC.

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Probably right but that's foolish. Their rosters barely had an ounce of talent much less any quality depth. Not a coincidence those were Dave's only competitive games last year in a historically bad season.

Now Ucf did have a little talent but seems to be a terribly managed group with coaching fumbles every other week. They recruit fairly well, Dave should be taking a look at a few of the top guys.

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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UCF and UC both had too high of expectations. Their fans thought they would just jump in the Big 12 and be at the top of the conference the way both were for years in the AAC. Actually, I think UH fans probably thought some of the same things because they were at least pretty competitive in the AAC.

They are all getting their first tastes of realizing all those years they thought of the Baylors, Iowa States, Kansas States, TCUs and Texas Techs as just middling programs when they looked at all of them from afar, now see those schools were pretty solid and competitive.

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UH has the new coach excuse, and I actually think that they can be turned into a decent program. Cincinnati i'm less sure about.

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Cincinnati has a good program and has through like four or five coaches. They can definitely win in the Big 12. I'm just not sure Satterfield is the coach that will get them there.

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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UCF and UC both had too high of expectations. Their fans thought they would just jump in the Big 12 and be at the top of the conference the way both were for years in the AAC. Actually, I think UH fans probably thought some of the same things because they were at least pretty competitive in the AAC.

They are all getting their first tastes of realizing all those years they thought of the Baylors, Iowa States, Kansas States, TCUs and Texas Techs as just middling programs when they looked at all of them from afar, now see those schools were pretty solid and competitive.

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UH has the new coach excuse, and I actually think that they can be turned into a decent program. Cincinnati i'm less sure about.

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Cincinnati has a good program and has through like four or five coaches. They can definitely win in the Big 12. I'm just not sure Satterfield is the coach that will get them there.

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Agree. They've proven it by having a number of different head coaches win there.

I honestly thought this would be how Aranda left Baylor at end of the season.

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I honestly thought this would be how Aranda left Baylor at end of the season.

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So did most of the rest of us.

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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UCF and UC both had too high of expectations. Their fans thought they would just jump in the Big 12 and be at the top of the conference the way both were for years in the AAC. Actually, I think UH fans probably thought some of the same things because they were at least pretty competitive in the AAC.

They are all getting their first tastes of realizing all those years they thought of the Baylors, Iowa States, Kansas States, TCUs and Texas Techs as just middling programs when they looked at all of them from afar, now see those schools were pretty solid and competitive.

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UH has the new coach excuse, and I actually think that they can be turned into a decent program. Cincinnati i'm less sure about.

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Cincinnati has a good program and has through like four or five coaches. They can definitely win in the Big 12. I'm just not sure Satterfield is the coach that will get them there.

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Agree. They've proven it by having a number of different head coaches win there.

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They ain't playing in the Big East or AAC any longer, where half of their games were auto W's and their budget was at the top end of those conferences. Like UCF and all the rest of us, they'll be middle of the pack most of the time and will have an occasional great team every 4 or 5 years that competes for a title. Both online fanbases broadcast loudly how they (not too much unlike Utah) were "gonna run the Big 12." Big 12 is a collection of evenly funded teams and evenly talented teams. There's no school that will dominate the way OU did from the early 2000s. Every team is on a pattern to be pretty good most years and then have an occasional better-than-normal year. UCF is not blitzing through the Big 12 undefeated, which is what their fans think they should be doing. If that's the administration's feeling, then they are gonna go through a hell of a lot of football coaches over the next 10 years.

There was a time I had predicted that Gus Malzahn would be the next head coach at Baylor after Matt Rhule. My prediction was off by a year in that Rhule left about a year earlier than I had thought he would, and Malzahn wasn't fired from Auburn until the following year.

I firmly believe that if the timeline had worked out, Malzahn would have been our coach. He would have been almost a perfect fit on paper for what Baylor looks for.

We lucked out.

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UCF and UC both had too high of expectations. Their fans thought they would just jump in the Big 12 and be at the top of the conference the way both were for years in the AAC. Actually, I think UH fans probably thought some of the same things because they were at least pretty competitive in the AAC.

They are all getting their first tastes of realizing all those years they thought of the Baylors, Iowa States, Kansas States, TCUs and Texas Techs as just middling programs when they looked at all of them from afar, now see those schools were pretty solid and competitive.

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UH has the new coach excuse, and I actually think that they can be turned into a decent program. Cincinnati i'm less sure about.

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Cincinnati has a good program and has through like four or five coaches. They can definitely win in the Big 12. I'm just not sure Satterfield is the coach that will get them there.

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I mean they along with TCU are the only current XII members who have made the play off as of today. That is about to change as of Sunday of course. UC has had a damn good football program since about the late 90s.

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Big12Fan2024 said:

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UCF and UC both had too high of expectations. Their fans thought they would just jump in the Big 12 and be at the top of the conference the way both were for years in the AAC. Actually, I think UH fans probably thought some of the same things because they were at least pretty competitive in the AAC.

They are all getting their first tastes of realizing all those years they thought of the Baylors, Iowa States, Kansas States, TCUs and Texas Techs as just middling programs when they looked at all of them from afar, now see those schools were pretty solid and competitive.

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UH has the new coach excuse, and I actually think that they can be turned into a decent program. Cincinnati i'm less sure about.

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Cincinnati has a good program and has through like four or five coaches. They can definitely win in the Big 12. I'm just not sure Satterfield is the coach that will get them there.

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I mean they along with TCU are the only current XII members who have made the play off as of today. That is about to change as of Sunday of course. UC has had a damn good football program since about the late 90s.

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Fickell left them at the worst possible time. And that move hasn't worked out particularly well for him either. I wonder if we might see a reunion between Cincinnati and Luke Fickell after next year if both he and Satterfield struggle again in 2025.

Big12Fan2024 said:

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UCF and UC both had too high of expectations. Their fans thought they would just jump in the Big 12 and be at the top of the conference the way both were for years in the AAC. Actually, I think UH fans probably thought some of the same things because they were at least pretty competitive in the AAC.

They are all getting their first tastes of realizing all those years they thought of the Baylors, Iowa States, Kansas States, TCUs and Texas Techs as just middling programs when they looked at all of them from afar, now see those schools were pretty solid and competitive.

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I can't speak to fan expectations for ucf and uc, but whatever the expectations were, they sure are getting a taste of things now.

As far as I'm concerned, UC's 'history' of success in the AAC doesn't guarantee future success in the Big 12

Chadwell would be an impressive get for UCF: https://t.co/hctnJCgL62

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) December 3, 2024

boognish_bear said:

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Chadwell would be an impressive get for UCF: https://t.co/hctnJCgL62

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) December 3, 2024

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Chadwell was at the top of my list if we had needed to can Aranda. Would be a great hire and would give him access to talent he has not had. Out of all the new B12 members, UCF has the most untapped potential in my opinion just due to their size and location.

Sources from LA tell me Scott Frost is interested in going back to Orlando to coach @UCF_Football more to come

— Jim Williams (@JWMediaDC) December 2, 2024