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Cost of Attendance for FBS schools in Texas
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The number they have for BU does not match what BU has on their website. Current COA is $74,000 at BU. Maybe they pulled last year's data.
I know most BU students aren't paying full sticker...but that is the published COA.
I know most BU students aren't paying full sticker...but that is the published COA.
We're conveniently located and have outstanding faculty. Plus live bears. No bears at Lubbock. Worth it.
Let’s Go!
We are on the cheaper side of the private schools
All so disgustingly overpriced.
Tuition and fees is all that matters. I have to pay for my kids to have a place to live and eat and stay alive no matter what.
RiskyBizz Bear said:
All so disgustingly overpriced.
I had a great time at BU….but I also assume most people don't need to pay 70k a year for a college education.
Especially one that now gives you all the standard liberal social stuff you get at the State schools (LGBTQ clubs, DEI racism, anti-American historical revisionism, etc)
Robert Wilson said:
Tuition and fees is all that matters. I have to pay for my kids to have a place to live and eat and stay alive no matter what.
The eating part yes....but not necessarily the living part if they start the first 2 years at a community college nearby.
I know that's not nearly the college experience that starting at the 4 year is....but it is an option depending on major.
Redbrickbear said:RiskyBizz Bear said:
All so disgustingly overpriced.
I had a great time at BU….but I also assume most people don't need to pay 70k a year for a college education.
Especially one that now gives you all the standard liberal stuff (LGBTQ clubs, DEI racism, anti-American historical revisionism, etc)
That 100% is Baylor's problem. I make a lot of money, but I don't wanna waste it. My kids are very good students. Baylor has done nothing to distinguish itself. We do everything all of the state schools do, just on a 5 year lag. So if I can send my kid to UT for about 10k a year, why would I not just do that? Then my kids can go ahead and start sorting out all the social debates on their own. Or I can pay five times that for them to go to Baylor, who will just throw a bunch of Jesus juice on top of the same DEI bull****, and the degree is worth the same or less in the market. If anything, that's just more confusing. I would just as soon my kids go to a completely secular institution and understand how they are situated vs the world, rather than them go to Baylor, which will package up a bunch of the same bull**** in some Christian wrapping paper.
I visited the new Baylor visitor center and talked to a student recruiter. She told me that 80 percent of students get reduced tuition. Only wealthy families pay the full tuition.
chorne68 said:
I visited the new Baylor visitor center and talked to a student recruiter. She told me that 80 percent of students get reduced tuition. Only wealthy families pay the full tuition.
If we're talking about a good student that graduated from a quality high school, even a number of those "wealthy families" aren't paying full price. Regardless of your financial status, if your only option is paying full sticker, then - even as much as I love BU - I agree it isn't worth it. And that goes for just about any other private school as well.
Baylor being more liberal than Liberty and Bob Jones University doesn't put them anywhere near the same stratosphere as UT in terms of all of the things you're talking about. Baylor absolutely distinguishes itself from those other schools. At Baylor I had professors pray in class, every major event on campus is lead by prayer, there are scriptures inscribed on most of the buildings, the schools official policy still affirms biblical sexual relations as those being between a man and a woman, in the context of marriage. They simply allow an LGBTQ club to exist on campus, but do not advocate for said group. Also, idk if you've been to a Baylor sporting event lately, but the majority of fans are still overwhelmingly white - I don't think a bunch of "DEI racism" is taking over the school simply because Baylor decided to put up a couple of statues honoring the first black students on campus and has tried to honor our history while still acknowledging that some of our founders were party to the atrocities of slavery.Robert Wilson said:Redbrickbear said:RiskyBizz Bear said:
All so disgustingly overpriced.
I had a great time at BU….but I also assume most people don't need to pay 70k a year for a college education.
Especially one that now gives you all the standard liberal stuff (LGBTQ clubs, DEI racism, anti-American historical revisionism, etc)
That 100% is Baylor's problem. I make a lot of money, but I don't wanna waste it. My kids are very good students. Baylor has done nothing to distinguish itself. We do everything all of the state schools do, just on a 5 year lag. So if I can send my kid to UT for about 10k a year, why would I not just do that? Then my kids can go ahead and start sorting out all the social debates on their own. Or I can pay five times that for them to go to Baylor, who will just throw a bunch of Jesus juice on top of the same DEI bull****, and the degree is worth the same or less in the market. If anything, that's just more confusing. I would just as soon my kids go to a completely secular institution and understand how they are situated vs the world, rather than them go to Baylor, which will package up a bunch of the same bull**** in some Christian wrapping paper.
Why does it have to be all or nothing to you folks? I graduated from Baylor and also went to graduate school at a flagship state university and can tell you with 100% certainty that the religious and Christian aspects of Baylor are still in stark contrast to 99% of major universities.
However, you are right, most people probably don't need to spend what the cost of a Baylor education is. But not for the ridiculous reasons you've stated.
guadalupeoso said:1. Baylor being more liberal than Liberty and Bob Jones University doesn't put them anywhere near the same stratosphere as UT in terms of all of the things you're talking about.Robert Wilson said:Redbrickbear said:RiskyBizz Bear said:
All so disgustingly overpriced.
I had a great time at BU….but I also assume most people don't need to pay 70k a year for a college education.
Especially one that now gives you all the standard liberal stuff (LGBTQ clubs, DEI racism, anti-American historical revisionism, etc)
That 100% is Baylor's problem. I make a lot of money, but I don't wanna waste it. My kids are very good students. Baylor has done nothing to distinguish itself. We do everything all of the state schools do, just on a 5 year lag. So if I can send my kid to UT for about 10k a year, why would I not just do that? Then my kids can go ahead and start sorting out all the social debates on their own. Or I can pay five times that for them to go to Baylor, who will just throw a bunch of Jesus juice on top of the same DEI bull****, and the degree is worth the same or less in the market. If anything, that's just more confusing. I would just as soon my kids go to a completely secular institution and understand how they are situated vs the world, rather than them go to Baylor, which will package up a bunch of the same bull**** in some Christian wrapping paper.
2. I don't think a bunch of "DEI racism" is taking over the school simply because Baylor decided to put up a couple of statues honoring the first black students on campus and has tried to honor our history
1. Just for our conversation is important to note that UT just banned DEI programs on its campus in accordance with the wishes of the Texas legislature (obviously Baylor is not required to do that and has not volunteered to stop its DEI initiatives) and UT has agreed to try and start hiring more ideologically diverse candidates in its hiring process and hire some conservative professors.
2. Baylor did not just add statues....they took down a statue, renamed parts of campus, and even kicked off some bells from our campus because of "racism" and added scholarships for those "who demonstrate a commitment to racial equality and diversity"
That is what people are naturally upset about....and more than the statues its shows the kind of ideological thinking that is now ascendant on campus among the leadership and the professors
Even some bells have to go apparently...
3. You mention the religious aspect of Baylor that is true....but have not explained how that negates his point that its a socially liberal university with a little religious aspect sprinkled on top....all that for 70K a year and people will ask if its worth it
His reasons are certainly not "ridiculous"
Its up to everyone to decide for themselves if the current year Baylor is worth the price
Agreed. Plenty of prayer all around. Haven't experienced DEI in my contacts with the university. The horror that dancing and music are allowed on campus and girls can wear shorts. How terrible…
The cost is high and unfortunately Baylor has fallen victim like every other university/college to administrative bloat. Armies of administrators the students and parents never interact with doing who knows what besides causing high costs to families and headaches to good professors.
The cost is high and unfortunately Baylor has fallen victim like every other university/college to administrative bloat. Armies of administrators the students and parents never interact with doing who knows what besides causing high costs to families and headaches to good professors.
ive never met a single Baylor Bear who has paid full sticker price. These numbers are quite mis-leading. Baylor is pretty generous with its scholarship allocations
Agreed that it's misleading, but it's primarily misleading because Rice, UT and A&M are generally not accessible to most families due to various factors. Their inclusion otherwise presents them as bargains.
Bear2014 said:
ive never met a single Baylor Bear who has paid full sticker price. These numbers are quite mis-leading. Baylor is pretty generous with its scholarship allocations
I paid full price but that number was at $25 per semester hour. Nobody got a price break except preacher's kids.
His post implies "What's the point of sending my kid to Baylor when they are basically just going to get the same experience as at UT (from a social and political standpoint)?" Which is just not true at all and it's ridiculous to think that.Redbrickbear said:guadalupeoso said:1. Baylor being more liberal than Liberty and Bob Jones University doesn't put them anywhere near the same stratosphere as UT in terms of all of the things you're talking about.Robert Wilson said:Redbrickbear said:RiskyBizz Bear said:
All so disgustingly overpriced.
I had a great time at BU….but I also assume most people don't need to pay 70k a year for a college education.
Especially one that now gives you all the standard liberal stuff (LGBTQ clubs, DEI racism, anti-American historical revisionism, etc)
That 100% is Baylor's problem. I make a lot of money, but I don't wanna waste it. My kids are very good students. Baylor has done nothing to distinguish itself. We do everything all of the state schools do, just on a 5 year lag. So if I can send my kid to UT for about 10k a year, why would I not just do that? Then my kids can go ahead and start sorting out all the social debates on their own. Or I can pay five times that for them to go to Baylor, who will just throw a bunch of Jesus juice on top of the same DEI bull****, and the degree is worth the same or less in the market. If anything, that's just more confusing. I would just as soon my kids go to a completely secular institution and understand how they are situated vs the world, rather than them go to Baylor, which will package up a bunch of the same bull**** in some Christian wrapping paper.
2. I don't think a bunch of "DEI racism" is taking over the school simply because Baylor decided to put up a couple of statues honoring the first black students on campus and has tried to honor our history
1. Just for our conversation is important to note that UT just banned DEI programs on its campus in accordance with the wishes of the Texas legislature (obviously Baylor is not required to do that and has not volunteered to stop its DEI initiatives) and UT has agreed to try and start hiring more ideologically diverse candidates in its hiring process and hire some conservative professors.
2. Baylor did not just add statues....they took down a statue, renamed parts of campus, and even kicked off some bells from our campus because of "racism" and added scholarships for those "who demonstrate a commitment to racial equality and diversity"
That is what people are naturally upset about....and more than the statues its shows the kind of ideological thinking that is now ascendant on campus among the leadership and the professors
Even some bells have to go apparently...
3. You mention the religious aspect of Baylor that is true....but have not explained how that negates his point that its a socially liberal university with a little religious aspect sprinkled on top....all that for 70K a year and people will ask if its worth it
His reasons are certainly not "ridiculous"
Its up to everyone to decide for themselves if the current year Baylor is worth the price
Robert Wilson said:Redbrickbear said:RiskyBizz Bear said:
All so disgustingly overpriced.
I had a great time at BU….but I also assume most people don't need to pay 70k a year for a college education.
Especially one that now gives you all the standard liberal stuff (LGBTQ clubs, DEI racism, anti-American historical revisionism, etc)
That 100% is Baylor's problem. I make a lot of money, but I don't wanna waste it. My kids are very good students. Baylor has done nothing to distinguish itself. We do everything all of the state schools do, just on a 5 year lag. So if I can send my kid to UT for about 10k a year, why would I not just do that? Then my kids can go ahead and start sorting out all the social debates on their own. Or I can pay five times that for them to go to Baylor, who will just throw a bunch of Jesus juice on top of the same DEI bull****, and the degree is worth the same or less in the market. If anything, that's just more confusing. I would just as soon my kids go to a completely secular institution and understand how they are situated vs the world, rather than them go to Baylor, which will package up a bunch of the same bull**** in some Christian wrapping paper.
Yup. Baylor is a good but not elite academic institution. My courses were challenging, and good grades certainly aren't handed out like candy if you don't put solid effort into studying. The price tag is really for the experience. However, paying for the picturesque college experience nowadays is becoming an upper class thing. Outside of a couple degree programs, I don't feel that Baylor is worth the current price tag. I haven't found that companies put a lot of weight into where you went to school after you've been in the workforce for a few years years and have developed your own skillset. For most fields, having a degree is basically a checkbox on an application if you don't have some connection at that company
guadalupeoso said:His post implies "What's the point of sending my kid to Baylor when they are basically just going to get the same experience as at UT (from a social and political standpoint)?" Which is just not true at all and it's ridiculous to think that.Redbrickbear said:guadalupeoso said:1. Baylor being more liberal than Liberty and Bob Jones University doesn't put them anywhere near the same stratosphere as UT in terms of all of the things you're talking about.Robert Wilson said:Redbrickbear said:RiskyBizz Bear said:
All so disgustingly overpriced.
I had a great time at BU….but I also assume most people don't need to pay 70k a year for a college education.
Especially one that now gives you all the standard liberal stuff (LGBTQ clubs, DEI racism, anti-American historical revisionism, etc)
That 100% is Baylor's problem. I make a lot of money, but I don't wanna waste it. My kids are very good students. Baylor has done nothing to distinguish itself. We do everything all of the state schools do, just on a 5 year lag. So if I can send my kid to UT for about 10k a year, why would I not just do that? Then my kids can go ahead and start sorting out all the social debates on their own. Or I can pay five times that for them to go to Baylor, who will just throw a bunch of Jesus juice on top of the same DEI bull****, and the degree is worth the same or less in the market. If anything, that's just more confusing. I would just as soon my kids go to a completely secular institution and understand how they are situated vs the world, rather than them go to Baylor, which will package up a bunch of the same bull**** in some Christian wrapping paper.
2. I don't think a bunch of "DEI racism" is taking over the school simply because Baylor decided to put up a couple of statues honoring the first black students on campus and has tried to honor our history
1. Just for our conversation is important to note that UT just banned DEI programs on its campus in accordance with the wishes of the Texas legislature (obviously Baylor is not required to do that and has not volunteered to stop its DEI initiatives) and UT has agreed to try and start hiring more ideologically diverse candidates in its hiring process and hire some conservative professors.
2. Baylor did not just add statues....they took down a statue, renamed parts of campus, and even kicked off some bells from our campus because of "racism" and added scholarships for those "who demonstrate a commitment to racial equality and diversity"
That is what people are naturally upset about....and more than the statues its shows the kind of ideological thinking that is now ascendant on campus among the leadership and the professors
Even some bells have to go apparently...
3. You mention the religious aspect of Baylor that is true....but have not explained how that negates his point that its a socially liberal university with a little religious aspect sprinkled on top....all that for 70K a year and people will ask if its worth it
His reasons are certainly not "ridiculous"
Its up to everyone to decide for themselves if the current year Baylor is worth the price
I personally don't care about the statues and think the DEI stuff is a bit overblown, but Baylor absolutely has shifted ideologically to the left, and it really doesn't have a great reputation in the conservative Christian world outside of big mega Southern Baptist churches, and I would argue that there's also a sense of detachment growing there as well
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