***Official HC Short List

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william
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Pedro Aguirre.

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Robert Wilson
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BUATX2000 said:

PartyBear said:

A billionaire is paying people millions to play for Tech. This isn't 2012, 1994 or some other random year of the past the coach did have to sell his program.

The good news is there is regulation of all of this legal slush fund from donors stuff starting next year supposedly.


The regulation will never hold up in the Supreme Court. Good luck putting together a law that limits how much the free market is willing to pay an individual for their services.

I don't know why my response disappeared...

They'll need to move towards a collective bargaining agreement like the NFL and the NBA if they want a shot at enforceable salary caps.
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PartyBear said:

A billionaire is paying people millions to play for Tech. This isn't 2012, 1994 or some other random year of the past the coach did have to sell his program.

The good news is there is regulation of all of this legal slush fund from donors stuff starting next year supposedly.

This. The notion that "any program can do it if they try and have the right coach" is nonsensical.
OsoCoreyell
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Harbaugh
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Aberzombie1892 said:

PartyBear said:

A billionaire is paying people millions to play for Tech. This isn't 2012, 1994 or some other random year of the past the coach did have to sell his program.

The good news is there is regulation of all of this legal slush fund from donors stuff starting next year supposedly.

This. The notion that "any program can do it if they try and have the right coach" is nonsensical.


Straw man. You can't just throw quotes around something and act like somebody said that
Robert Wilson
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Youre a clown said:

Aberzombie1892 said:

PartyBear said:

A billionaire is paying people millions to play for Tech. This isn't 2012, 1994 or some other random year of the past the coach did have to sell his program.

The good news is there is regulation of all of this legal slush fund from donors stuff starting next year supposedly.

This. The notion that "any program can do it if they try and have the right coach" is nonsensical.


Straw man. You can't just throw quotes around something and act like somebody said that

I don't even understand what point he's trying to make.

Money is egalitarian. At some point, if the current environment held, entirely possible Tech could buy itself a national championship.

That's why the SEC and B10 want to get the new system in place as quickly as possible. They don't want Tech to be able to easily outspend them. It levels the playing field.
Youre a clown
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Robert Wilson said:

Youre a clown said:

Aberzombie1892 said:

PartyBear said:

A billionaire is paying people millions to play for Tech. This isn't 2012, 1994 or some other random year of the past the coach did have to sell his program.

The good news is there is regulation of all of this legal slush fund from donors stuff starting next year supposedly.

This. The notion that "any program can do it if they try and have the right coach" is nonsensical.


Straw man. You can't just throw quotes around something and act like somebody said that

I don't even understand what point he's trying to make.

Money is egalitarian. At some point, if the current environment held, entirely possible Tech could buy itself a national championship.

That's why the SEC and B10 want to get the new system in place as quickly as possible. They don't want Tech to be able to easily outspend them. It levels the playing field.


For me, I'm not expecting a coach at Baylor to just used car salesman their way into magically getting a golden goose that can crank out infinite NIL money. Obviously, you have to have the boosters. However, I also know that gladhanding, forming relationships, whatever we want to call it is a gift that not every coach has. Aranda is a nice guy, but I couldn't imagine having to listen to him give a sales pitch for why you should give him money to buy players, so if Azerombie is trying to imply that what we have with Aranda is as good as it gets in terms of booster engagement, we will just have to agree to disagree
Mr Tulip
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Robert Wilson said:

BUATX2000 said:

PartyBear said:

A billionaire is paying people millions to play for Tech. This isn't 2012, 1994 or some other random year of the past the coach did have to sell his program.

The good news is there is regulation of all of this legal slush fund from donors stuff starting next year supposedly.


The regulation will never hold up in the Supreme Court. Good luck putting together a law that limits how much the free market is willing to pay an individual for their services.

I don't know why my response disappeared...

They'll need to move towards a collective bargaining agreement like the NFL and the NBA if they want a shot at enforceable salary caps.

Collective bargaining requires a labor representation - typically a union.
The NCAA worked really hard to litigate multiple lawsuits to declare that their players were neither labor nor union eligible.

I definitely agree with you. It's just that bus has to be backed up quite a ways before it can be boarded. Both MLB and NFL are "illegal cartels", but they were legitimized through Congressional action that specified what management's role had to be. They negotiate with their labor union representatives to play under the agreements arising from those negotiations.
Quinton
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Youre a clown said:

Aberzombie1892 said:

PartyBear said:

A billionaire is paying people millions to play for Tech. This isn't 2012, 1994 or some other random year of the past the coach did have to sell his program.

The good news is there is regulation of all of this legal slush fund from donors stuff starting next year supposedly.

This. The notion that "any program can do it if they try and have the right coach" is nonsensical.


Straw man. You can't just throw quotes around something and act like somebody said that

Yep. Everybody understands Tech hasn't been very well coached and has bought a team that will contend in the conference given the overall talent level in the big 12. That is unique.

But the other 15.. BU can easily be right there and should (this year) with decent coaching.
Aberzombie1892
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Youre a clown said:

Aberzombie1892 said:

PartyBear said:

A billionaire is paying people millions to play for Tech. This isn't 2012, 1994 or some other random year of the past the coach did have to sell his program.

The good news is there is regulation of all of this legal slush fund from donors stuff starting next year supposedly.

This. The notion that "any program can do it if they try and have the right coach" is nonsensical.


Straw man. You can't just throw quotes around something and act like somebody said that


It, by definition, is not, but by all means do not let facts stop you here.
LIB,MR BEARS
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Just making the thread easy to find
BUwolverine2012
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ill do it for 500k a year with performance bonus
Bearsalwayswin
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id do it for free
Youre a clown
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I'm too lazy to list their names, but the head coaches at Washington state, North Texas, Texas State, Tulane, USF, and UTSA should all be considered
Bearsalwayswin
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washington state?
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Bearsalwayswin said:

washington state?


Jimmy Rogers. Probably not a name that people talk about, but I think he's a very good coach. Former FCS guy. Washington state is a really really tough gig, and I think he would come to a place where he has better resources
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Youre a clown said:

Bearsalwayswin said:

washington state?


Jimmy Rogers. Probably not a name that people talk about, but I think he's a very good coach. Former FCS guy. Washington state is a really really tough gig, and I think he would come to a place where he has better resources


That's actually not a bad pick.
BUATX2000
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Bob stoops could be interesting, especially if Mark stoops gets canned at KY. Maybe we get them both with Mark as DC.

Bearfan1998
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What
LIB,MR BEARS
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James Franklin, anyone?
LIB,MR BEARS
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Something to discuss during the firing delay, I mean lightning delay.
BUATX2000
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Dave Aranda played by Keegan Michael-key…playing James Franklin.
Donco
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Fran Brown
Bearfan1998
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Art Briles still has a couple good years in him. Give him 15 million dollars idc right now
Guitarbiscuit
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Bearfan1998 said:

Art Briles still has a couple good years in him. Give him 15 million dollars idc right now


I would take Briles over Aranda even if he were 93, in a wheelchair and mumbling to himself.
BUATX2000
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Guitarbiscuit said:

Bearfan1998 said:

Art Briles still has a couple good years in him. Give him 15 million dollars idc right now


I would take Briles over Aranda even if he were 93, in a wheelchair and mumbling to himself.


Would still have more energy than Aranda.
canoso
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Guitarbiscuit said:

Bearfan1998 said:

Art Briles still has a couple good years in him. Give him 15 million dollars idc right now


I would take Briles over Aranda even if he were 93, in a wheelchair and mumbling to himself.

You and many, many thousands of Baylor fans. Specifically the ones that don't attend games any more.
LIB,MR BEARS
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The state of Arizona goes bigtime lib and wants Dillingham to shut up about his faith. He refuses and lands at Baylor.

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EuropeBear
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He has 1 committed Billionaire. Looks like the state of college sports lit his fire. Joey has the charisma that I love but he doesn't have a record that shows he can win without the billionaire. And how do you lose with the #1 transfer class in the country?
EuropeBear
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Guitarbiscuit said:

Aberzombie1892 said:

Guitarbiscuit said:

Aberzombie1892 said:

Guitarbiscuit said:

I'd imagine McGuire was able to sell the program to the boosters, something Aranda hasn't done.


Comparing Baylor's boosters to Texas Tech boosters isn't exactly a 1:1 comparison. Does Baylor have any (multi billion) billionaires sitting around that played football for Baylor?



I have no idea. But I don't see that as an excuse. You can either sell or you can't.

Tell that to Oregon, Ohio State, etc. and the opponents that they regularly trounce.


No idea what you're talking about. If you believe Aranda is a good salesman, then that's fine. I just don't agree.

Joey Mcguire was able to get the big guns to come to Lubbock of all places. Mcguire was able to do it. Aranda was not. And that's why our defense is at the bottom of the Big 12.


Joey did nothing. The Billionaire wrote checks. End of story. We need bigger checks to win. Joey is frankly no more proven than Dave. Probably less. At least Dave won a championship at a place with bigger checks. That said, I'd like to take Joey and the Billionaire.
GruntTuff
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Tech has more money than Baylor can dream. Two words: Permian Basin.

Joey's not leaving. With his budget and charisma and Texas HS connections his future is bright. He might just retire there. Money talks.

Unless Aranda goes 0-6 or 1-5, he's back. Ah, maybe 2-4 gets him fired, but 2-4 gets him a bs bowl….good enough for Baylo? Probably.






GruntTuff
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Tech has many more than one billionaire. Oil's down now, but the smart ones sold in the past couple of years. They will buy at a deep discount at $45 oil and sell the next time it hits $80. More billions.
LIB,MR BEARS
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Dear President Livingstone, Cody Campbell is more than deserving of a half dozen doctorate degrees from Baylor. I know you can make it happen and I know you'll do the right thing.
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Grant Teaff said Kim Mulkey could coach his sport.
 
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