boognish_bear said:

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Kansas Head Coach Lance Leipold on Texas Tech's resources and transfer portal class.

"It's well known that they are at the top of the league, and then there's the rest of us".@KCBD11 @pchristy11 @shelbieelaine13

Video Credit: Kansas247 pic.twitter.com/QCWnP3ryvf

— Justin Margolius (@JustinMargolius) October 6, 2025

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Then why say it? Self serving cyoa

bear2be2 said:

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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We are probably lucky we don't have to face them in conference play. They are clearly a top 10 team. McGuire is a great recruiter.

Midnight Rider said:

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Texas Tech has bought for themselves a pretty good football team.

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I'm a Joey McGuire fan, but anyone would be a great recruiter with their NIL budget.

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Exactly, you have JKB finding the dudes and Cody Campbell paying them. Tech will win a natty with that system which I guess is good for the b12.

A natty?? Good grief Tech wins a few games with a giant NiL slush fund and they're suddenly national title contenders. The top teams in the country would/will mop this Tech team. If they get into the playoffs that is

Knight in 28 or so years trying, still has not bought Oregon one. TCU recently has got closer than Oregon. Pickens tried to buy one for OSU for about 15 years and never did. Lets hold off until they are really in contention before pondering this.

muddybrazos said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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We are probably lucky we don't have to face them in conference play. They are clearly a top 10 team. McGuire is a great recruiter.

Midnight Rider said:

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Texas Tech has bought for themselves a pretty good football team.

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I'm a Joey McGuire fan, but anyone would be a great recruiter with their NIL budget.

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Exactly, you have JKB finding the dudes and Cody Campbell paying them. Tech will win a natty with that system which I guess is good for the b12.

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They aren't close to competing for a national title even if they win the Big 12, as they are several top tier recruiting classes away, and, while it will certainly change due to the CFP field expansion, its worth noting that Big 12 champion still has not won a single CFP tournament game over the 11-year existence of the CFP.

TCU?

Oddly they were not the XII champs that year.

TCU wasn't the conference champ. KSU was

IowaBear said:

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A natty?? Good grief Tech wins a few games with a giant NiL slush fund and they're suddenly national title contenders. The top teams in the country would/will mop this Tech team. If they get into the playoffs that is

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i didnt say they would do it this year but their money isnt running out and they will get more 5* players coming there. James Blanchard can find talent and losing him Joey while keeping Dave was probably where we screwed up.

I kinda want to see them get matched up with aggy in the playoffs this year, though.

Ah...I didn't read the 'champion' part...

Not that that stat will matter anymore with playoff expansion

muddybrazos said:

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IowaBear said:

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A natty?? Good grief Tech wins a few games with a giant NiL slush fund and they're suddenly national title contenders. The top teams in the country would/will mop this Tech team. If they get into the playoffs that is

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i didnt say they would do it this year but their money isnt running out and they will get more 5* players coming there. James Blanchard can find talent and losing him Joey while keeping Dave was probably where we screwed up.

I kinda want to see them get matched up with aggy in the playoffs this year, though.

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Actually, I could be wrong, but I thought Tech's billionaire had said he can't really do it forever. So I do not think this is a Knight at Oregon deal.

gtownbear said:

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Bought. Not bought. Texas Tech is a really good football team on both sides of the ball. They will be tough for any team to beat in any league.

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Yep. There won't be an asterisk next to a potential Big 12 championship. People will just call them champions (if they win). Buying teams is the way to go. I think you'll see Tech and BYU emerge as consistent competitors in all Big 12 sports simply because of the checkbook.

PartyBear said:

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Knight in 28 or so years trying, still has not bought Oregon one. TCU recently has got closer than Oregon. Pickens tried to buy one for OSU for about 15 years and never did. Lets hold off until they are really in contention before pondering this.

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TCU hasn't gotten closer than Oregon has. Oregon has played for two titles and didn't get beat by 60 in either one.

Oregons play since really 2010 to current has been elite. Well as elite as 1 can be without a title. That's one of the better programs in the country. It's only a matter of time before Lanning gets them over the hunp imo. And TCU was never closer to a title than the Ducks. That was an absurd comment by Party

I said TCU has recently gotten closer than Oregon, which is literally a fact. In the past 10 seasons TCU has made the national title game and Oregon hasn't. I would consider that as TCU getting closer in recent years than Oregon, despite huge efforts by Oregon to buy it. That was my main point, I would just point out again since it was missed by a few here.

To be very clear, Campbell's money has basically put Tech in the range of UT, OhSU, A&M, Oregon, Miami in terms of spending. It's not like they are way outspending those teams (which don't exactly have a parade of recent NCs to show for it, outside of OhSU).

And Tech has to overpay to get players, as Campbell has admitted. All things being equal, a typical stud 5* would still rather go to UGA or Michigan than Tech.

Tech will have a good team and should win the B12 at some point. They might even win some playoff games and could win a NC on the idea that "anything can happen once you get in the tourney".

But the idea that you buy something as mercurial as a football NC just by paying certain price is foolish.

How does the House settlement affect this going forward? My understanding that money outside of what the school can provide (capped along with everyone else) has to reflect actual payment (I assume reasonable) for services rendered. Did the settlement really do anything to prevent someone like Tech to continue to spend whatever they want if they can get it from boosters?

I guess the school can ask a donor to cover its 20 million. So a school can not worry about it coming from its own revenue. Keep in mind though I think the 20 million is for all athletes at a school not just the football budget. I guess a school can budget it all to football but that is going cause them problems. Not the least of which is being big losers in all other sports and the inability to keep good or hire good coaches of other sports.

Serious question. Who is Baylor's version of Cody Campbell? Pastor Robert Jeffress?

blackie said:

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My understanding that money outside of what the school can provide (capped along with everyone else) has to reflect actual payment (I assume reasonable) for services rendered.

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Some Baylor JD on here with experience in employment law can chime in…

But I don't think there are many laws or cases that deal with maximums you can pay an employee for services rendered.

They have been more worried about underpayment of employees historically. "You can't pay a nurse $5hr and work her 100hrs a week" type stuff.

Not "oil Barron and his Midland company can not pay a football player $3 million as a part time marketer"

BellCountyBear said:

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Serious question. Who is Baylor's version of Cody Campbell? Pastor Robert Jeffress?

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I wish we had one. Jeffress will need to get on Fox and sell a billion more of his books if he is going to bank roll us.

PartyBear said:

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I said TCU has recently gotten closer than Oregon, which is literally a fact. In the past 10 seasons TCU has made the national title game and Oregon hasn't. I would consider that as TCU getting closer in recent years than Oregon, despite huge efforts by Oregon to buy it. That was my main point, I would just point out again since it was missed by a few here.

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Both takes are right in the sense that both Oregon and TCU won a CFP tournament game during the 4 team era. Personally, I would go a step further and state that TCU's inability to land in the right side of the blue chip ratio essentially guarantees that I would not win the national title game, while, in contrast, Oregon has a shot at winning such game given the quality of its roster.

bear2be2 said:

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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We are probably lucky we don't have to face them in conference play. They are clearly a top 10 team. McGuire is a great recruiter.

Midnight Rider said:

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Texas Tech has bought for themselves a pretty good football team.

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I'm a Joey McGuire fan, but anyone would be a great recruiter with their NIL budget.

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You still have to spend the money the right way and fit all the pieces together. Looks at who McGuire invested in and Dave's $1M investment in QB.....enough said.

BluesBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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We are probably lucky we don't have to face them in conference play. They are clearly a top 10 team. McGuire is a great recruiter.

Midnight Rider said:

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Texas Tech has bought for themselves a pretty good football team.

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I'm a Joey McGuire fan, but anyone would be a great recruiter with their NIL budget.

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You still have to spend the money the right way and fit all the pieces together. Looks at who McGuire invested in and Dave's $1M investment in QB.....enough said.

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Thats bc Joey has JKB finding the talent. JKB wouldve never thought Dequan Finn was the guy. I still dont understand how Spav saw Sawyer and Dequan in practice and rolled with Finn.

muddybrazos said:

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BluesBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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We are probably lucky we don't have to face them in conference play. They are clearly a top 10 team. McGuire is a great recruiter.

Midnight Rider said:

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Texas Tech has bought for themselves a pretty good football team.

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I'm a Joey McGuire fan, but anyone would be a great recruiter with their NIL budget.

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You still have to spend the money the right way and fit all the pieces together. Looks at who McGuire invested in and Dave's $1M investment in QB.....enough said.

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Thats bc Joey has JKB finding the talent. JKB wouldve never thought Dequan Finn was the guy. I still dont understand how Spav saw Sawyer and Dequan in practice and rolled with Finn.

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You can certainly be correct, but at least I never saw a practice to say what either of them looked like in spring practice that year. Maybe some of you guys did. Even if so, you have a lot of convincing for me to believe that at that one point in time, the staff was not going to put on the field the person they believed gave the team the best chance of winning. Ridiculous to think otherwise. Now, you can question their evaluation at that time, but no one will ever convince me they put Finn in and knew that Robertson was better. Goes against all logic.

In addition, Sawyer had some interception issues when he did play the previous fall by throwing into coverage he should never had thrown. For the most part he has corrected that issue. Also, Finn may have been the best looking we could get that year before we had a higher NIL budget. We needed something because of lack of decent depth in the QB room.

Just be thankful we have who we have now. Waste of time to talk about the past that is not going to affect the future.

The buzz about Tech has something behind it, with the big money, a fast start, a lot of buzz. But we also have to remember. They still haven't met the huge expectations the media has put on them. Not yet.

They really haven't set the world on fire in the past few years. We'll see what happens. It could also be they spent this money and their huge commitment and still fall well short.

No knock on them. And I think Joey is a pretty dang good coach at worst. But let's see it pan out before we envy what they don't have yet.

muddybrazos said:

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BluesBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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We are probably lucky we don't have to face them in conference play. They are clearly a top 10 team. McGuire is a great recruiter.

Midnight Rider said:

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Texas Tech has bought for themselves a pretty good football team.

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I'm a Joey McGuire fan, but anyone would be a great recruiter with their NIL budget.

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You still have to spend the money the right way and fit all the pieces together. Looks at who McGuire invested in and Dave's $1M investment in QB.....enough said.

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Thats bc Joey has JKB finding the talent. JKB wouldve never thought Dequan Finn was the guy. I still dont understand how Spav saw Sawyer and Dequan in practice and rolled with Finn.

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I totally understand it. Practice hero. Pretty common in football esp QB, RB and WR where they are the "target". Lot of guys look great in practice where they are never really in jeopardy, but can't process game speed at the same rate.

I had a lot of reasons I was not a good athlete, but terrible processing speed in games was a big one.

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muddybrazos said:

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BluesBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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We are probably lucky we don't have to face them in conference play. They are clearly a top 10 team. McGuire is a great recruiter.

Midnight Rider said:

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Texas Tech has bought for themselves a pretty good football team.

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I'm a Joey McGuire fan, but anyone would be a great recruiter with their NIL budget.

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You still have to spend the money the right way and fit all the pieces together. Looks at who McGuire invested in and Dave's $1M investment in QB.....enough said.

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Thats bc Joey has JKB finding the talent. JKB wouldve never thought Dequan Finn was the guy. I still dont understand how Spav saw Sawyer and Dequan in practice and rolled with Finn.

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I totally understand it. Practice hero. Pretty common in football esp QB, RB and WR where they are the "target". Lot of guys look great in practice where they are never really in jeopardy, but can't process game speed at the same rate.

I had a lot of reasons I was not a good athlete, but terrible processing speed in games was a big one.

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That's a good way of putting it. I was always amazed at some of the guys who were monsters in offseason / practice but just couldn't put it together in a game. They just didn't have the instinct, couldn't react quickly, however you want to say it. One really quick boom/boom pause, and your 4.5 just turned into a 5.0.

blackie said:

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muddybrazos said:

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BluesBear said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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We are probably lucky we don't have to face them in conference play. They are clearly a top 10 team. McGuire is a great recruiter.

Midnight Rider said:

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Texas Tech has bought for themselves a pretty good football team.

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I'm a Joey McGuire fan, but anyone would be a great recruiter with their NIL budget.

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You still have to spend the money the right way and fit all the pieces together. Looks at who McGuire invested in and Dave's $1M investment in QB.....enough said.

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Thats bc Joey has JKB finding the talent. JKB wouldve never thought Dequan Finn was the guy. I still dont understand how Spav saw Sawyer and Dequan in practice and rolled with Finn.

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You can certainly be correct, but at least I never saw a practice to say what either of them looked like in spring practice that year. Maybe some of you guys did. Even if so, you have a lot of convincing for me to believe that at that one point in time, the staff was not going to put on the field the person they believed gave the team the best chance of winning. Ridiculous to think otherwise. Now, you can question their evaluation at that time, but no one will ever convince me they put Finn in and knew that Robertson was better. Goes against all logic.

In addition, Sawyer had some interception issues when he did play the previous fall by throwing into coverage he should never had thrown. For the most part he has corrected that issue. Also, Finn may have been the best looking we could get that year before we had a higher NIL budget. We needed something because of lack of decent depth in the QB room.

Just be thankful we have who we have now. Waste of time to talk about the past that is not going to affect the future.

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But the past DOES play a part in the looking into the future. If a coach is gonna ask for more NIL but can't show ability to utilize those funds better - why would you give them more money. There are some many business principles that are not needed from your ADs and ability for coaches to understand, Mack is a Marketing guy - - - how many Marketing guys drive success businesses today?

It's not unreasonable for coaches to highlight the inherent unfairness of the current NCAA setup and that they may not be getting the same financial resources as teams they're asked to defeat. It's a screwed up system that cannot last. The "have nots" will fade ever further, and the "haves" will rise and become more and more distant from their academic mission. More change is coming.

I've always liked them. They've long been a team of lesser-recruited, blue-collar scrappers. I remember well the days when the Aggies were leading the SMU league minus SMU in cheating and only Tech could beat them.

muddybrazos said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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We are probably lucky we don't have to face them in conference play. They are clearly a top 10 team. McGuire is a great recruiter.

Midnight Rider said:

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Texas Tech has bought for themselves a pretty good football team.

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I'm a Joey McGuire fan, but anyone would be a great recruiter with their NIL budget.

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Exactly, you have JKB finding the dudes and Cody Campbell paying them. Tech will win a natty with that system which I guess is good for the b12.

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Yeah, we could have easily had him as our Coach. But he wasn't the quiet, philosopher diversity pick.

WestUBears88 said:

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muddybrazos said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Guitarbiscuit said:

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We are probably lucky we don't have to face them in conference play. They are clearly a top 10 team. McGuire is a great recruiter.

Midnight Rider said:

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Texas Tech has bought for themselves a pretty good football team.

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I'm a Joey McGuire fan, but anyone would be a great recruiter with their NIL budget.

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Exactly, you have JKB finding the dudes and Cody Campbell paying them. Tech will win a natty with that system which I guess is good for the b12.

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Yeah, we could have easily had him as our Coach. But he wasn't the quiet, philosopher diversity pick.

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What makes you so sure he would have succeeded without Tech NIL? I'm convinced they are comprised of 90% laughable schedule and purchasing power, and 10% coaching prowess.

PartyBear said:

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I said TCU has recently gotten closer than Oregon, which is literally a fact. In the past 10 seasons TCU has made the national title game and Oregon hasn't. I would consider that as TCU getting closer in recent years than Oregon, despite huge efforts by Oregon to buy it. That was my main point, I would just point out again since it was missed by a few here.

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I believe that Oregon played and lost to Ohio State in the national championship game in 2015 (for the 2014 season). Ezekiel Elliott (sp?) was Ohio State's star running back.

Feel obligated to point out that Aranda is 2-1 against McGuire, with both wins basically being blowouts in Lubbock.