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how do I like this post more than once?

Me too

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"It Got Worse After the Game

Immediately following the game, as the players were making their way around the field to thank fans, along with convening for the school song, Mack Rhoades was allegedly standing behind Trigg and other coaches. This is when the situation took another turn, with an assistant coach being involved.
Multiple witnesses tell OutKick that while Trigg went to be with his family, an assistant coach was visiting with his family, when AD Mack Rhoades allegedly came up from behind and grabbed the assistant's arm and, subsequently, his shoulder and neck area. According to sources, Rhoades then allegedly proceeded to verbally accost the assistant coach, which was witnessed by multiple Baylor staff members within the athletic department, along with family members."

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This is a problem. Trigg on the other hand is a highly paid employee and a grown man. If what he was doing was disrespecting the university, I have no problem with him being addressed in that manner. And if it's gonna adversely affect his performance as one poster said, so be it. The evidence reveals that he responded with an awesome game, reflecting that the he's a pro and more than ready for such.

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Two separate incidents. The pregame incident with Trigg, and then what he did to an unnamed assistant coach after the game. Multiple witnesses and video. It's only going to get more embarrassing when ESPN starts running the video. Firing Mack Rhodes now would stop that.

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But Art Briles was actually quite good at his job. Mack not so much.

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But Art Briles was actually quite good at his job. Mack not so much.

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Even before the latest bit controversial behavior by Rhodes, Baylor athletics in general were on a downward trend.

Nicki Collen is far from a bad hire!!! She has won about 75% of games since she has been here and took a team to the Sweet 16.

Also in case you haven't heard, her team is now # 7 in AP poll. Doesn't sound like bad hire to me…..

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Nicki Collen is far from a bad hire!!! She has won about 75% of games since she has been here and took a team to the Sweet 16.

Also in case you haven't heard, her team is now # 7 in AP poll. Doesn't sound like bad hire to me…..

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We miss championships. Conference and national. If she can get us there, everything's good.

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Nicki Collen is far from a bad hire!!! She has won about 75% of games since she has been here and took a team to the Sweet 16.

Also in case you haven't heard, her team is now # 7 in AP poll. Doesn't sound like bad hire to me…..

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She's only a bad hire if you consider who she had to replace.

In WBB, for better or worse, you're either in the mix winning NCs or you don't matter.

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Nicki Collen is far from a bad hire!!! She has won about 75% of games since she has been here and took a team to the Sweet 16.

Also in case you haven't heard, her team is now # 7 in AP poll. Doesn't sound like bad hire to me…..

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We miss championships. Conference and national. If she can get us there, everything's good.

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Nicki won the Big12 her 1st season

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

MR has.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Other than, the NCAA in 2021 said Briles violated no rules, and the NCAA never sanctioned him, banned or suspended him from coaching, etc. Only a complete nincompoop would have (did) fire Briles under the circumstances.

I sent an email to President Livingstone today asking (politely...the Baylor way) how any department head, professor or anyone else employed by the university (including her) would be treated if:

1. They grabbed a student and
2. Cursed the student using the "F" word and
3. That was done in a very public place and
4. The insane altercation continued for more than three hours when any right minded adult would have had time to reconsider his or her actions.

Let's see if I get a reply. Can you imagine what would happen to Dr. Livingstone if, in the middle of graduation she grabbed a student in front of the assembled ten thousand or so and cursed the student using the same word?

Livingstone has an opportunity to set a very public stance on what is and what is not acceptable. Does she have what it takes? We will see.

And, I may have missed it, but has the jackass AD issued a public apology? Has he addressed, and apologized to the student, his family and the team? If he has (and I may have missed it) why has he not?

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Other than, the NCAA in 2021 said Briles violated no rules, and the NCAA never sanctioned him, banned or suspended him from coaching, etc. Only a complete nincompoop would have (did) fire Briles under the circumstances.

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Can you cite your source for that? Because it's not here.

https://ncaa.web.baylor.edu/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/baylor-avoids-ncaa-punishment-for-sexual-assault-scandal-gets-probation-for-football-related-violations/

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I sent an email to President Livingstone today asking (politely...the Baylor way) how any department head, professor or anyone else employed by the university (including her) would be treated if:

1. They grabbed a student and
2. Cursed the student using the "F" word and
3. That was done in a very public place and
4. The insane altercation continued for more than three hours when any right minded adult would have had time to reconsider his or her actions.

Let's see if I get a reply. Can you imagine what would happen to Dr. Livingstone if, in the middle of graduation she grabbed a student in front of the assembled ten thousand or so and cursed the student using the same word?

Livingstone has an opportunity to set a very public stance on what is and what is not acceptable. Does she have what it takes? We will see.

And, I may have missed it, but has the jackass AD issued a public apology? Has he addressed, and apologized to the student, his family and the team? If he has (and I may have missed it) why has he not?

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Careful, people here will call you a p**** liberal or something.

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Nicki Collen is far from a bad hire!!! She has won about 75% of games since she has been here and took a team to the Sweet 16.

Also in case you haven't heard, her team is now # 7 in AP poll. Doesn't sound like bad hire to me…..

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We miss championships. Conference and national. If she can get us there, everything's good.

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Nicki won the Big12 her 1st season

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And since then? I didn't think so. 1 championship every 4 to 5 years isn't going to cut it. And then there's the natty.

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Nicki Collen is far from a bad hire!!! She has won about 75% of games since she has been here and took a team to the Sweet 16.

Also in case you haven't heard, her team is now # 7 in AP poll. Doesn't sound like bad hire to me…..

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We miss championships. Conference and national. If she can get us there, everything's good.

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Nicki won the Big12 her 1st season

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And since then? I didn't think so. 1 championship every 4 to 5 years isn't going to cut it. And then there's the natty.

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You said you miss championships, including conference. I pointed out she had already won a conference championship. Just admit you were wrong.

It is amazing that anyone thinks a Baylor coach should be fired if they don't win a conference title more frequently than once every 5 years. Btw the same is true of any Horned frog, Pony or Raider having the same view of any of their HCs.

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How did the firing of AB go for the university?

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

MR has.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Other than, the NCAA in 2021 said Briles violated no rules, and the NCAA never sanctioned him, banned or suspended him from coaching, etc. Only a complete nincompoop would have (did) fire Briles under the circumstances.

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Can you cite your source for that? Because it's not here.

https://ncaa.web.baylor.edu/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/baylor-avoids-ncaa-punishment-for-sexual-assault-scandal-gets-probation-for-football-related-violations/

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Keep googling, you ****ing ******. It's not my job to research and read for you.

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How did the firing of AB go for the university?

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

MR has.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Other than, the NCAA in 2021 said Briles violated no rules, and the NCAA never sanctioned him, banned or suspended him from coaching, etc. Only a complete nincompoop would have (did) fire Briles under the circumstances.

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Can you cite your source for that? Because it's not here.

https://ncaa.web.baylor.edu/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/baylor-avoids-ncaa-punishment-for-sexual-assault-scandal-gets-probation-for-football-related-violations/

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Whoa Whoa Whoa, quit citing facts here. How are we supposed to make ourselves out to be the aggrieved righteous who have been stomped upon unustly by the liberal media if it turns out that Briles and McCaw actually did something wrong?

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How did the firing of AB go for the university?

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

MR has.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Other than, the NCAA in 2021 said Briles violated no rules, and the NCAA never sanctioned him, banned or suspended him from coaching, etc. Only a complete nincompoop would have (did) fire Briles under the circumstances.

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Can you cite your source for that? Because it's not here.

https://ncaa.web.baylor.edu/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/baylor-avoids-ncaa-punishment-for-sexual-assault-scandal-gets-probation-for-football-related-violations/

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Whoa Whoa Whoa, quit citing facts here. How are we supposed to make ourselves out to be the aggrieved righteous who have been stomped upon unustly by the liberal media if it turns out that Briles and McCaw actually did something wrong?

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We mostly did it to ourselves. Media did scare us into it, though.

After a few days I have given some thought to what happened with Trigg/Parents/Coaches.

I didn't know Mack had the fire in him. If only he had looked at Dave and said *** are you doing I'd give him a little slack.

But he didn't, in public anyway, so pitch him.

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How did the firing of AB go for the university?

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

MR has.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Other than, the NCAA in 2021 said Briles violated no rules, and the NCAA never sanctioned him, banned or suspended him from coaching, etc. Only a complete nincompoop would have (did) fire Briles under the circumstances.

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Can you cite your source for that? Because it's not here.

https://ncaa.web.baylor.edu/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/baylor-avoids-ncaa-punishment-for-sexual-assault-scandal-gets-probation-for-football-related-violations/

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Keep googling, you ****ing ******. It's not my job to research and read for you.

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So then you admit you were wrong. You could have just done that or walked away from the discussion. Now I'm going to have to ridicule you even further for being a reality denier.

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How did the firing of AB go for the university?

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

MR has.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Other than, the NCAA in 2021 said Briles violated no rules, and the NCAA never sanctioned him, banned or suspended him from coaching, etc. Only a complete nincompoop would have (did) fire Briles under the circumstances.

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Can you cite your source for that? Because it's not here.

https://ncaa.web.baylor.edu/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/baylor-avoids-ncaa-punishment-for-sexual-assault-scandal-gets-probation-for-football-related-violations/

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Keep googling, you ****ing ******. It's not my job to research and read for you.

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So then you admit you were wrong. You could have just done that or walked away from the discussion. Now I'm going to have to ridicule you even further for being a reality denier.

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Not even close. What I said was correct. What you posted doesn't even conflict with it. I'm not doing your research for you. You won't understand it even if I do lay it out for you. Waste of time.

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How did the firing of AB go for the university?

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

MR has.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Other than, the NCAA in 2021 said Briles violated no rules, and the NCAA never sanctioned him, banned or suspended him from coaching, etc. Only a complete nincompoop would have (did) fire Briles under the circumstances.

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Can you cite your source for that? Because it's not here.

https://ncaa.web.baylor.edu/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/baylor-avoids-ncaa-punishment-for-sexual-assault-scandal-gets-probation-for-football-related-violations/

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Keep googling, you ****ing ******. It's not my job to research and read for you.

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So then you admit you were wrong. You could have just done that or walked away from the discussion. Now I'm going to have to ridicule you even further for being a reality denier.

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Not even close. What I said was correct. What you posted doesn't even conflict with it. I'm not doing your research for you. You won't understand it even if I do lay it out for you. Waste of time.

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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Cope harder. You're literally denying reality. Maybe you and Mack Rhoades can share a therapist.

CaliBear00 said:

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How did the firing of AB go for the university?

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

MR has.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Other than, the NCAA in 2021 said Briles violated no rules, and the NCAA never sanctioned him, banned or suspended him from coaching, etc. Only a complete nincompoop would have (did) fire Briles under the circumstances.

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Can you cite your source for that? Because it's not here.

https://ncaa.web.baylor.edu/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/baylor-avoids-ncaa-punishment-for-sexual-assault-scandal-gets-probation-for-football-related-violations/

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Keep googling, you ****ing ******. It's not my job to research and read for you.

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So then you admit you were wrong. You could have just done that or walked away from the discussion. Now I'm going to have to ridicule you even further for being a reality denier.

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Not even close. What I said was correct. What you posted doesn't even conflict with it. I'm not doing your research for you. You won't understand it even if I do lay it out for you. Waste of time.

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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Cope harder. You're literally denying reality. Maybe you and Mack Rhoades can share a therapist.

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You are dumb as a bag of hammers.

NCAA not punishing Baylor, Art Briles in sex-assault scandal | Fort Worth Star-Telegram

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How did the firing of AB go for the university?

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

MR has.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Other than, the NCAA in 2021 said Briles violated no rules, and the NCAA never sanctioned him, banned or suspended him from coaching, etc. Only a complete nincompoop would have (did) fire Briles under the circumstances.

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Can you cite your source for that? Because it's not here.

https://ncaa.web.baylor.edu/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/baylor-avoids-ncaa-punishment-for-sexual-assault-scandal-gets-probation-for-football-related-violations/

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Keep googling, you ****ing ******. It's not my job to research and read for you.

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So then you admit you were wrong. You could have just done that or walked away from the discussion. Now I'm going to have to ridicule you even further for being a reality denier.

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Not even close. What I said was correct. What you posted doesn't even conflict with it. I'm not doing your research for you. You won't understand it even if I do lay it out for you. Waste of time.

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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Cope harder. You're literally denying reality. Maybe you and Mack Rhoades can share a therapist.

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You are dumb as a bag of hammers.

NCAA not punishing Baylor, Art Briles in sex-assault scandal | Fort Worth Star-Telegram

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Yes, lack of institutional control as stated in YOUR OWN SOURCE. Like I've been saying the entire time, you mouth breathing troglodyte. Institutional control begins with who? Wait for it.... THE COACH.

Of all the people to be a Stan over, you chose a sexual assault enabling, ends justifies the means fiend like Art Briles. Your family must be so proud of you.

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I sent an email to President Livingstone today asking (politely...the Baylor way) how any department head, professor or anyone else employed by the university (including her) would be treated if:

1. They grabbed a student and
2. Cursed the student using the "F" word and
3. That was done in a very public place and
4. The insane altercation continued for more than three hours when any right minded adult would have had time to reconsider his or her actions.

Let's see if I get a reply. Can you imagine what would happen to Dr. Livingstone if, in the middle of graduation she grabbed a student in front of the assembled ten thousand or so and cursed the student using the same word?

Livingstone has an opportunity to set a very public stance on what is and what is not acceptable. Does she have what it takes? We will see.

And, I may have missed it, but has the jackass AD issued a public apology? Has he addressed, and apologized to the student, his family and the team? If he has (and I may have missed it) why has he not?

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I agree with all of this, but this is not what he's being fired for.

It's totally unrelated personal conduct.

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How did the firing of AB go for the university?

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

MR has.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Other than, the NCAA in 2021 said Briles violated no rules, and the NCAA never sanctioned him, banned or suspended him from coaching, etc. Only a complete nincompoop would have (did) fire Briles under the circumstances.

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Can you cite your source for that? Because it's not here.

https://ncaa.web.baylor.edu/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/baylor-avoids-ncaa-punishment-for-sexual-assault-scandal-gets-probation-for-football-related-violations/

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Keep googling, you ****ing ******. It's not my job to research and read for you.

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So then you admit you were wrong. You could have just done that or walked away from the discussion. Now I'm going to have to ridicule you even further for being a reality denier.

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Not even close. What I said was correct. What you posted doesn't even conflict with it. I'm not doing your research for you. You won't understand it even if I do lay it out for you. Waste of time.

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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Cope harder. You're literally denying reality. Maybe you and Mack Rhoades can share a therapist.

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You are dumb as a bag of hammers.

NCAA not punishing Baylor, Art Briles in sex-assault scandal | Fort Worth Star-Telegram

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Yes, lack of institutional control as stated in YOUR OWN SOURCE. Like I've been saying the entire time, you mouth breathing troglodyte. Institutional control begins with who? Wait for it.... THE COACH.

Of all the people to be a Stan over, you chose a sexual assault enabling, ends justifies the means fiend like Art Briles. Your family must be so proud of you.

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This is the only reference to lack of institutional control.

from the article said:

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There are no exact rules in the large NCAA rule book that Baylor technically violated. The closest rule Baylor violated would have been the vague "lack of institutional control." In this case, the behavior of certain members of the Baylor board was in question. To penalize a school for the behavior of its board members would have potentially set a precedent, and start a legal fight the NCAA does not want.

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This is why I initially declined to give you information. You're so stupid you can't understand it. It's a waste of time.

Welcome to the ignore list. Have a nice life.

Hit the road, Jack.

And don't come back no more.

GruntTuff said:

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I sent an email to President Livingstone today asking (politely...the Baylor way) how any department head, professor or anyone else employed by the university (including her) would be treated if:

1. They grabbed a student and
2. Cursed the student using the "F" word and
3. That was done in a very public place and
4. The insane altercation continued for more than three hours when any right minded adult would have had time to reconsider his or her actions.

Let's see if I get a reply. Can you imagine what would happen to Dr. Livingstone if, in the middle of graduation she grabbed a student in front of the assembled ten thousand or so and cursed the student using the same word?

Livingstone has an opportunity to set a very public stance on what is and what is not acceptable. Does she have what it takes? We will see.

And, I may have missed it, but has the jackass AD issued a public apology? Has he addressed, and apologized to the student, his family and the team? If he has (and I may have missed it) why has he not?

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did she answer you back?

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Disagree

How did the firing of AB go for the university?

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Difference is that AB didn't do anything worth being fired over.

MR has.

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Well, except that he did. Lack of institutional control as cited by the NCAA.

"Baylor University's football program was charged with a lack of institutional control by the NCAA in October 2018, following a lengthy investigation into the university's handling of sexual assault allegations involving football players.
This charge, considered one of the most serious under NCAA rules, stemmed from the assertion that Baylor failed to report sexual assault allegations as required under Title IX, thereby allowing players to receive impermissible benefits by continuing to participate in football activities without going through proper adjudication processes.

Former head coach Art Briles was also cited for failing to promote an atmosphere of compliance, a Level I violation under NCAA regulations. Briles was dismissed in May 2016."

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Other than, the NCAA in 2021 said Briles violated no rules, and the NCAA never sanctioned him, banned or suspended him from coaching, etc. Only a complete nincompoop would have (did) fire Briles under the circumstances.

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Can you cite your source for that? Because it's not here.

https://ncaa.web.baylor.edu/

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/baylor-avoids-ncaa-punishment-for-sexual-assault-scandal-gets-probation-for-football-related-violations/

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Keep googling, you ****ing ******. It's not my job to research and read for you.

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So then you admit you were wrong. You could have just done that or walked away from the discussion. Now I'm going to have to ridicule you even further for being a reality denier.

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Not even close. What I said was correct. What you posted doesn't even conflict with it. I'm not doing your research for you. You won't understand it even if I do lay it out for you. Waste of time.

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HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Cope harder. You're literally denying reality. Maybe you and Mack Rhoades can share a therapist.

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You are dumb as a bag of hammers.

NCAA not punishing Baylor, Art Briles in sex-assault scandal | Fort Worth Star-Telegram

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Yes, lack of institutional control as stated in YOUR OWN SOURCE. Like I've been saying the entire time, you mouth breathing troglodyte. Institutional control begins with who? Wait for it.... THE COACH.

Of all the people to be a Stan over, you chose a sexual assault enabling, ends justifies the means fiend like Art Briles. Your family must be so proud of you.

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This is the only reference to lack of institutional control.

from the article said:

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There are no exact rules in the large NCAA rule book that Baylor technically violated. The closest rule Baylor violated would have been the vague "lack of institutional control." In this case, the behavior of certain members of the Baylor board was in question. To penalize a school for the behavior of its board members would have potentially set a precedent, and start a legal fight the NCAA does not want.

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This is why I initially declined to give you information. You're so stupid you can't understand it. It's a waste of time.

Welcome to the ignore list. Have a nice life.

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"A "lack of institutional control" charge by the NCAA signifies that an institution failed to maintain adequate compliance measures, appropriate education on those measures, sufficient monitoring to ensure compliance, and swift action upon discovering violations.
This charge is considered more serious than a "failure to monitor" violation, which typically involves isolated or limited scope infractions and is usually categorized as a Level 2 violation unless the failure is substantial and egregious.
In contrast, a lack of institutional control is a Level I violation and often results in severe penalties, including postseason bans, scholarship reductions, show-cause penalties for coaches, and the vacation of wins.

The NCAA determines a lack of institutional control when the institution's leadership fails to properly oversee its athletics programs, especially in cases involving booster misconduct or widespread systemic failures in compliance.
For example, the University of Miami was charged with lack of institutional control due to its failure to monitor the actions of booster Nevin Shapiro, who provided impermissible benefits to athletes.
Similarly, Stephen F. Austin faced penalties for a lack of institutional control related to the erroneous certification of 82 student-athletes across nine sports from 2013 to 2019.
Other institutions, such as LSU, Kansas, and Baylor, have also received notices of allegations for lack of institutional control, often tied to major violations in football or basketball programs and involving failures in oversight by athletic leadership."

Gosh, that all sounds pretty specific.

Just your daily reminder that he needs to be fired.

Realitybites said:

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Just your daily reminder that he needs to be fired.

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Thank you. Word in the club Friday and Saturday night was that it's something we can't afford. I sure hope not. Willing to sacrifice to get back to the Briles and Rhuie standard

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Just your daily reminder that he needs to be fired.

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Thank you. Word in the club Friday and Saturday night was that it's something we can't afford. I sure hope not. Willing to sacrifice to get back to the Briles and Rhuie std.

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I don't think that last word is one you want to abbreviate. At least not that way.

Think of the rumors you might start.

GruntTuff said:

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I sent an email to President Livingstone today asking (politely...the Baylor way)

Let's see if I get a reply…

Livingstone has an opportunity to set a very public stance..

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I average about 2-3 emails a year to the administration asking questions or for clarifications about Baylor policy or ideological direction.

I never get a response. lol

Good luck

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I average about 2-3 emails a year to the administration asking questions or for clarifications about Baylor policy or ideological direction.

I never get a response. lol

Good luck

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A quick remedy would be to send a sizable check to Pat Neff Hall. It could open up several channels of communication.