Abercrombie must be beside himself since the recruits are flipping as we speak. That's gonna be one bored fax machine on signing day
Why did Linda release that letter with two weeks to play?
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This post aged extremely well, unfortunately.Robert Wilson said:
As far as I can tell, there's nothing you actually need to say. Of course you are going to hire an athletic athletic director. I think everybody knows you need one. No need to say that. If you don't fire Dave, fine, don't fire Dave. Go privately tell him you are disappointed and he needs to do better.
Why say anything publicly at all? And if you feel like you have to say something, why make it haughty, preachy, out of touch double speak nonsense?
And beyond that, why release it when there are still two weeks left in the season? If your supposition is the players love Dave, maybe let them think they're playing for his job? And how do you look if you release that letter and then we get trucked the last two weeks?
Baylor is so poorly run, it boggles the mind.
Oklahoma State has given a master class this season on aggressively addressing the same problem we had/have. BU leadership was asleep on the back row.
canoso said:
Oklahoma State has given a master class this season on aggressively addressing the same problem we had/have. BU leadership was asleep on the back row.
Our leadership is abysmal.
Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
Do tell
Nothing that has happened so far today, whether on the field or in the recruiting arena, has substantively changed anything in the quoted post.
Robert Wilson said:boykin_spaniel said:
It takes the pressure off the new AD having to announce Dave will be back. No AD wants to take a job late and his first announcement be that the very unpopular football coach will be returning. Fan base will want a new AD. The new AD also can't publicly say Dave is back but only because I don't have time to run a proper search. That would be a bigger disaster.
I don't think the letter was good, it was classic floundering Baylor speak, but I get what the school was trying to do with it.
When do you think we will have a new AD? Realistically?
1st quarter of 2026.
poor leadership is gonna poor leadership
mack. livingstone. aranda. 3 extremely poor leaders.
mack. livingstone. aranda. 3 extremely poor leaders.
Aberzombie1892 said:Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
Do tell
Nothing that has happened so far today, whether on the field or in the recruiting arena, has substantively changed anything in the quoted post.
In a sense that's true. It is as wrong today as it was then.
Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
Do tell
Nothing that has happened so far today, whether on the field or in the recruiting arena, has substantively changed anything in the quoted post.
In a sense that's true. It is as wrong today as it was then.
Feel free to tell yourself whatever makes you feel better, but simply because something makes you feel better doesn't make it correct. It's an interesting thought though.
Aberzombie1892 said:Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
Do tell
Nothing that has happened so far today, whether on the field or in the recruiting arena, has substantively changed anything in the quoted post.
In a sense that's true. It is as wrong today as it was then.
Feel free to tell yourself whatever makes you feel better, but simply because something makes you feel better doesn't make it correct. It's an interesting thought though.
That's deep. Good work, bud.
Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
Do tell
Nothing that has happened so far today, whether on the field or in the recruiting arena, has substantively changed anything in the quoted post.
In a sense that's true. It is as wrong today as it was then.
Feel free to tell yourself whatever makes you feel better, but simply because something makes you feel better doesn't make it correct. It's an interesting thought though.
That's deep. Good work, bud.
Thanks - I do what I can.
Baylor football is in a bad place right now. The best thing they could do would be for the President to go back on her statement and make a change. For Dave Aranda to revitalize the program next year would be about a 10-20% chance. Eric Morris was the coach in this cycle and we missed him. GJ Kinne or Traylor are good coaches but they both had lesser years. Baylor cannot afford experimenting with an assistant this next time.
DTBear said:
Baylor football is in a bad place right now. The best thing they could do would be for the President to go back on her statement and make a change. For Dave Aranda to revitalize the program next year would be about a 10-20% chance. Eric Morris was the coach in this cycle and we missed him. GJ Kinne or Traylor are good coaches but they both had lesser years. Baylor cannot afford experimenting with an assistant this next time.
But if she went back on her statement, she (or anyone else involved in what was said) wouldn't be infallible. And we just can't have that, ya know.
DTBear said:
Baylor football is in a bad place right now. The best thing they could do would be for the President to go back on her statement and make a change. For Dave Aranda to revitalize the program next year would be about a 10-20% chance. Eric Morris was the coach in this cycle and we missed him. GJ Kinne or Traylor are good coaches but they both had lesser years. Baylor cannot afford experimenting with an assistant this next time.
I would love to see her do that, but at this point, it would be difficult to find the right coach. This was possible if we had been in talks with Morris before he made his decision. I'm not sure the thought process of sending the letter out, and unlike many, I do like and appreciate the President, however, I believe the letter was a huge mistake. No one did her any favors with that recommendation! We would have had plenty of time to be angry now, rather than as we watched the games- knowing nothing was going to change. I had a hard time trying to decide if I wanted to buy tickets again next year.
2Bears said:DTBear said:
Baylor football is in a bad place right now. The best thing they could do would be for the President to go back on her statement and make a change. For Dave Aranda to revitalize the program next year would be about a 10-20% chance. Eric Morris was the coach in this cycle and we missed him. GJ Kinne or Traylor are good coaches but they both had lesser years. Baylor cannot afford experimenting with an assistant this next time.
I would love to see her do that, but at this point, it would be difficult to find the right coach. This was possible if we had been in talks with Morris before he made his decision. I'm not sure the thought process of sending the letter out, and unlike many, I do like and appreciate the President, however, I believe the letter was a huge mistake. No one did her any favors with that recommendation! We would have had plenty of time to be angry now, rather than as we watched the games- knowing nothing was going to change. I had a hard time trying to decide if I wanted to buy tickets again next year.
There are still some good options out there. I'd hire Dan Mullen or Jason Eck tomorrow, or later in December or even January, if we had the opportunity.
Jimmy Rogers is a good option as well.
IowaBear said:
Jimmy Rogers is a good option as well.
Agreed.
After spending 66 years in Texas, I've lived in Santa Fe, NM the past 10 years.
What Jason Eck accomplished this year at UNM is mindblowing. No history or tradition for football in either the university or the state. Terrible facilities. No money. No returning players....and yet, he's 9-3 including a good loss at Michigan to start the year.
I'm not saying we should hire him next year, but the point is that coaching matters. Coaching matters.
You can have all the pretty toys, money, facilities, etc., but without leadership, none of that matters.
The shiniest flavor of the day is often not what works. Ask Auburn, UT, LSU when they made multiple bad hires and, of course, ask Baylor.
Eck came to UNM for $1.25 million. He's now making $1.75 million. We don't have to pay $8 million to hire the right coach.
What Jason Eck accomplished this year at UNM is mindblowing. No history or tradition for football in either the university or the state. Terrible facilities. No money. No returning players....and yet, he's 9-3 including a good loss at Michigan to start the year.
I'm not saying we should hire him next year, but the point is that coaching matters. Coaching matters.
You can have all the pretty toys, money, facilities, etc., but without leadership, none of that matters.
The shiniest flavor of the day is often not what works. Ask Auburn, UT, LSU when they made multiple bad hires and, of course, ask Baylor.
Eck came to UNM for $1.25 million. He's now making $1.75 million. We don't have to pay $8 million to hire the right coach.
There are two possible answers to the question posed in the original post.
1) She is clueless with regard to running an athletic department.
2) She gives zero f's about football and the Baylor FanBase.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
1) She is clueless with regard to running an athletic department.
2) She gives zero f's about football and the Baylor FanBase.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
DTBear said:
Baylor football is in a bad place right now. The best thing they could do would be for the President to go back on her statement and make a change. For Dave Aranda to revitalize the program next year would be about a 10-20% chance. Eric Morris was the coach in this cycle and we missed him. GJ Kinne or Traylor are good coaches but they both had lesser years. Baylor cannot afford experimenting with an assistant this next time.
He needs to be removed pretty much no matter what by the new AD.
Unless the team looks unstoppable and wins conference.. everybody will still be out on him. And anyone who starts to pivot, will always doubt the guy. Recipe for disaster.
My fear is that lightning strikes and he wins 7 next year
Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
Not sure the bolded would be a bad thing.
Either that, or we have one of the worst head coaches in America, and we need to get a pair and end the relationship today.
Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
Lmao
The letter will do nothing to avoid that
…
GruntTuff said:
My fear is that lightning strikes and he wins 7 next year
I suspect that's what Linda is looking at. Throw the buyout money at the portal and hope to get enough talent to get barely bowel eligible and hail it as a turnaround. They've already lost the top talent in the recruiting class. Under her leadership, BU football is headed to the basement of the Big 12. Under her leadership, it is going to stay there.
Robert Wilson said:Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
Lmao
The letter will do nothing to avoid that
…
Did you just quote yourself and say nothing?
Aberzombie1892 said:Robert Wilson said:Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
Lmao
The letter will do nothing to avoid that
…
Did you just quote yourself and say nothing?
What do you think the ellipsis meant there?
Hint: an ellipsis is the omission of words that are superfluous or obvious from context clues.
Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:Robert Wilson said:Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
Lmao
The letter will do nothing to avoid that
…
Did you just quote yourself and say nothing?
What do you think the ellipsis meant there?
Hint: an ellipsis is the omission of words that are superfluous or obvious from context clues.
The question was rhetorical because the answer was obviously "yes".
Aberzombie1892 said:Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:Robert Wilson said:Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
Lmao
The letter will do nothing to avoid that
…
Did you just quote yourself and say nothing?
What do you think the ellipsis meant there?
Hint: an ellipsis is the omission of words that are superfluous or obvious from context clues.
The question was rhetorical because the answer was obviously "yes".
Well, no, bud. There was an ellipsis. Go back to the definition of ellipsis. It is a form of communication. From that, an astute reader such as yourself just might glean the intent.
Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
How's this working out?
Robert Wilson said:Aberzombie1892 said:
Because there are other bad things that can happen beyond keeping Aranda as HC and the Baylor admin is looking to avoid them (i.e. roster exodus, collapse of 2026 class, etc.). It would've been gross negligence had they made the decision and not made it known due to how it impacts roster and recruiting management.
How's this working out?
Ooofffffffff
Abandon ship! Man the lifeboats. Women and children first.
“Life is short, eat desert first!”
Does Linda understand the market and what is going on? That Joey just got the #1 QB out of the portal? That we need to go get #1 players out of the portal, especially with most of our team going into the portal.
Robert Wilson said:
As far as I can tell, there's nothing you actually need to say. Of course you are going to hire an athletic athletic director. I think everybody knows you need one. No need to say that. If you don't fire Dave, fine, don't fire Dave. Go privately tell him you are disappointed and he needs to do better.
Why say anything publicly at all? And if you feel like you have to say something, why make it haughty, preachy, out of touch double speak nonsense?
And beyond that, why release it when there are still two weeks left in the season? If your supposition is the players love Dave, maybe let them think they're playing for his job? And how do you look if you release that letter and then we get trucked the last two weeks?
Baylor is so poorly run, it boggles the mind.
She told us the truth. We don't have to like it. There was no way we would do a coach search without the AD in place.
What's infuriating is we didn't do a quality AD search. In 2026 if Aranda is the real problem, we're depending on this new AD to do a proper search and hire.
Mitch Blood Green said:Robert Wilson said:
As far as I can tell, there's nothing you actually need to say. Of course you are going to hire an athletic athletic director. I think everybody knows you need one. No need to say that. If you don't fire Dave, fine, don't fire Dave. Go privately tell him you are disappointed and he needs to do better.
Why say anything publicly at all? And if you feel like you have to say something, why make it haughty, preachy, out of touch double speak nonsense?
And beyond that, why release it when there are still two weeks left in the season? If your supposition is the players love Dave, maybe let them think they're playing for his job? And how do you look if you release that letter and then we get trucked the last two weeks?
Baylor is so poorly run, it boggles the mind.
She told us the truth. We don't have to like it. There was no way we would do a coach search with the AD in place.
What's infuriating is we didn't do a quality AD search. In 2026 if Aranda is the real problem, we're depending on this new AD to do a proper search and hire.
We could have done all sorts of things. Still could (if we had money). But the primary point is that putting that letter out there when she did accomplished precisely nothing. If you don't have anything actually constructive to say, just stay quiet. It's an underrated technique.
Robert Wilson said:Mitch Blood Green said:Robert Wilson said:
As far as I can tell, there's nothing you actually need to say. Of course you are going to hire an athletic athletic director. I think everybody knows you need one. No need to say that. If you don't fire Dave, fine, don't fire Dave. Go privately tell him you are disappointed and he needs to do better.
Why say anything publicly at all? And if you feel like you have to say something, why make it haughty, preachy, out of touch double speak nonsense?
And beyond that, why release it when there are still two weeks left in the season? If your supposition is the players love Dave, maybe let them think they're playing for his job? And how do you look if you release that letter and then we get trucked the last two weeks?
Baylor is so poorly run, it boggles the mind.
She told us the truth. We don't have to like it. There was no way we would do a coach search with the AD in place.
What's infuriating is we didn't do a quality AD search. In 2026 if Aranda is the real problem, we're depending on this new AD to do a proper search and hire.
We could have done all sorts of things. Still could (if we had money). But the primary point is that putting that letter out there when she did accomplished precisely nothing. If you don't have anything actually constructive to say, just stay quiet. It's an underrated technique.
I don't see anything wrong with the letter. It ended the speculation around Aranda's status. People want clarity. If I'm a player, who is the coach. If I'm an assistant, do I start to look?
No issue with the letter.
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